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That was my build but now I have some extra money( ~100€) and was wondering if its enough to get a significant upgrade somewhere. Maybe get the 4GB version of the GTX 960? Is it worth it?
To add to Cyro's advice, here's a PSU I would recommend:
On March 29 2015 04:31 Cyro wrote: You should definitely get the intel CPU
that 970 isn't a great model, i was comparing stuff like the msi gaming 970 vs the tri-x 290
So keep the GTX 960 2GB? and instead get an Intel. I am not really knowledgeable with OC what do I need to make it work? Isnt it taxing the durability of the processor too hard?
On March 29 2015 04:31 Cyro wrote: You should definitely get the intel CPU
that 970 isn't a great model, i was comparing stuff like the msi gaming 970 vs the tri-x 290
So keep the GTX 960 2GB? and instead get an Intel. I am not really knowledgeable with OC what do I need to make it work? Isnt it taxing the durability of the processor too hard?
On March 29 2015 04:31 Cyro wrote: You should definitely get the intel CPU
that 970 isn't a great model, i was comparing stuff like the msi gaming 970 vs the tri-x 290
So keep the GTX 960 2GB? and instead get an Intel. I am not really knowledgeable with OC what do I need to make it work? Isnt it taxing the durability of the processor too hard?
So... I'm looking for a cheap headset. U.S. market. Limited access to brick & mortar.
Budget: under $50 Priorities in order of importance: 1 - good mic quality (people on the other end can understand me) 2 - durability 3 - being as far under $50 as possible.
Things I don't care about: sound quality of the headphones. In fact, if there's a viable stand-alone mic solution that can magically pick up my voice & not my speakers, I might be willing to try it.
On March 29 2015 04:31 Cyro wrote: You should definitely get the intel CPU
that 970 isn't a great model, i was comparing stuff like the msi gaming 970 vs the tri-x 290
So keep the GTX 960 2GB? and instead get an Intel. I am not really knowledgeable with OC what do I need to make it work? Isnt it taxing the durability of the processor too hard?
On March 29 2015 04:31 Cyro wrote: You should definitely get the intel CPU
that 970 isn't a great model, i was comparing stuff like the msi gaming 970 vs the tri-x 290
So keep the GTX 960 2GB? and instead get an Intel. I am not really knowledgeable with OC what do I need to make it work? Isnt it taxing the durability of the processor too hard?
On March 29 2015 09:57 MisterFred wrote: So... I'm looking for a cheap headset. U.S. market. Limited access to brick & mortar.
Budget: under $50 Priorities in order of importance: 1 - good mic quality (people on the other end can understand me) 2 - durability 3 - being as far under $50 as possible.
Things I don't care about: sound quality of the headphones. In fact, if there's a viable stand-alone mic solution that can magically pick up my voice & not my speakers, I might be willing to try it.
On March 29 2015 04:31 Cyro wrote: You should definitely get the intel CPU
that 970 isn't a great model, i was comparing stuff like the msi gaming 970 vs the tri-x 290
So keep the GTX 960 2GB? and instead get an Intel. I am not really knowledgeable with OC what do I need to make it work? Isnt it taxing the durability of the processor too hard?
960 to 970/290 gap is so big that i think you should probably just go for stock i5 and one of those GPU's
But isnt a big gap in performance a better investment?
edit: Now I understand what you meant! I compared the two 970 what makes the MSI Gaming so much better except that it has a little bit higher MHz?
better cooler, able to oc a little better
i5 (4570-4690) or 4790k with the MSI Gaming GTX 970.
Why the Intel processors over the AMD one? The AMD has 4Ghz and 8 cores while the Intel one only 4 cores and 3.2/3.5Ghz
The changed RAM, SSD and Power Supply are good?
Btw. Thanks for helping
AMD's current CPU architecture doesn't use cores, it uses modules with some shared resources and two threads. It's functionally quite like a CPU with 4 cores that can expand to the performance of ~6.7 cores in certain loads.
However those cores are much weaker than Intel's, so they need that 6.7x performance just to stay on par with i5 (and i7 is faster). They can only do that on certain tasks though, so for a variety of games that can't scale to very effectively utilizing 7 or 8 threads, Intel's CPU's are faster. For playing Starcraft 2, Heroes of the Storm or WoW for example, an Intel CPU around 3ghz is around as fast as those piledriver CPU's at 5ghz - and if you're clocking higher (i5 turbo's to ~3.7ghz with all cores, 4790k does 4.2ghz and OC'd CPU can regularly hit 4.6-4.7 or so) then they have a huge performance advantage.
Those CPU's were never the choice to buy unless you were doing tasks like some very heavy rendering or video encoding (which can scale to many threads very well) but AMD stopped refreshing them due to not competing on performance well and losing money, so at this point it's a 2012 era CPU that traded blows with intel's january 2011 CPU's (just not so good for singlethreaded performance and some games) but is horribly out of date now, competing 1 or very soon 2 major CPU generations out of its depth
tl;dr 1ghz on one CPU can be way slower than 1ghz on another CPU, and on top of that AMD's marketing team's definition of a "core" isn't the same as Intel's right now
980 is unusable for builds on any kind of real budget, dat 1.65x cost increase for 14% more VRAM and 20% more FPS. Most of all it's just a bad buy because it will probably fall in price by 150-200 euros in a couple months at some random date when amd actually releases a GPU and nvidia responds to it
3.5GB usable VRAM isn't a big deal for most people. It's just really annoying to some hardware enthusiasts who buy for specs rather than performance/usability (as weird as that sounds)
the xfx 450w core is good, i think the mx100 is a little faster than the bx100 but i'm not really up to date there. Should be similar
RAM, just make sure it's 2x4GB (and not a single stick) - c9 is better @ 1600mhz
What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920*1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? the newest single player games and upcoming multiplayer games like overwatch etc preferable on high settings
yes 450w is good, RAM is ok (but again cl9 better than cl11 :d) and yes worth 45 euro to go to gaming version IMO
the "tray" version might not be the retail one with included stock cooler etc. IDK, there's usually only a 10 euro price difference between them for uk retailers
So I'm ditching my crossfire 270 x's gonna try and sell them for whatever I can get. Trying to decide between a 970 or a 290 but I am currently leaning towards a 970. Will probably sli/crossfire in the very near future for funzies so that needs to be a consideration. Got a silverstone strider plus 750 watt so that might be a limiting factor.
I am building a mini ITX PC. I wanna play all the "standard" multiplayer games (SC2, LoL, DOTA2, CS:GO) and it would be nice if some bigger games like GTAV or new Witcher would run smoothly at 1080p.
Intel Core i5-4460 in-a-Box ASRock H97M-ITX/ac, Sockel 1150, ITX 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 Cooler Master Elite 130, ohne Netzteil be quiet! PURE POWER L8 500W
A used GTX 960 will come later from a friend who is upgrading soon.
Do the components match? Especially with the limited size factor...
On March 30 2015 22:49 chroniX wrote: I am building a mini ITX PC. I wanna play all the "standard" multiplayer games (SC2, LoL, DOTA2, CS:GO) and it would be nice if some bigger games like GTAV or new Witcher would run smoothly at 1080p.
Intel Core i5-4460 in-a-Box ASRock H97M-ITX/ac, Sockel 1150, ITX 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 Cooler Master Elite 130, ohne Netzteil be quiet! PURE POWER L8 500W
A used GTX 960 will come later from a friend who is upgrading soon.
Do the components match? Especially with the limited size factor...
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