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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On March 05 2015 10:39 Cyro wrote: gm200 titan just got announced w/ 12GB VRAM, probably 1.5x shaders + memory bus of 980. Dropping the hammer :D Cmon AMD!!! 12GB VRAM confirmed though I want | ||
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JulDraGoN
Sweden370 Posts
 I want to build a simple virtualization platform for testing different infrastructure solutions and building test environments. The idea is to build a box with a lot of RAM and a decent CPU for running around 8 UNIX or WS08 VMs. The RAM seems to be the biggest issue, I would need about 16 GB minimum. I also want it to take as little room as possible so an mITX case or smaller would be preferable. The problem I am having is that the price quickly goes out of control.Do you guys have any ideas of a not so costly build? + Show Spoiler [The questions] + What is your budget? Around $600 - That's the problem What is your monitor's native resolution? N/A What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? None What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Virtualization of infrastructure for testing purposes Do you intend to overclock? No Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? Nope, will be running vSphere. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Nope, I got what I need already in that regard. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Minimum 16 GB of ram, 4 core processor (hyper-threading would be sweet) and preferably a small case. What country will you be buying your parts in? Sweden If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. No preferences. Thank you!  | ||
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LilClinkin
Australia667 Posts
My hardware setup is as follows: Case: Antec Solo II PSU: 850W Cooler Master (I forget the exact model) Mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 CPU: i7 3770 3.4GHz with stock cooler GPU: Gigabyte GTX 980 Windforce OC Ram: 4x4GB DDR3 GSkill Ripjaws Mobo: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z68 Extreme4 Gen3/index.asp?cat= Case: http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=705179&fid=5022021&lan=nz Heatsink: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=34&lng=en&set=1 I've measured the distance from the base of my mobo to the side of the case, which is approximately 175mm, which would leaving roughly 10 to 12mm space between the cooler and case. Will this small distance produce any airflow issues? As you can see from the mobo, the GPU sits beneath the CPU and takes up a fair amount of space. According to the Noctua site, my ram and mobo should both be able to accommodate the heatsink. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
The airflow would go from the front of your case to the back, so being close to the side panel doesn't affect it, but it would have to physically fit | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
Also, someone who has tried it please recommend how much should I overclock the 4690K to have decent performance in SC2 on 1440p High Settings. Thanks much | ||
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GinyuSC
United States63 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On March 07 2015 14:46 bluegarfield wrote: HI, I just saw on the specification of i5-4690k that it supports DDR3 1333/1600 MHz RAM. Is there benefit of getting faster RAM like 1866 or 2133MHz? Also, someone who has tried it please recommend how much should I overclock the 4690K to have decent performance in SC2 on 1440p High Settings. Thanks much i think faster RAM is supported by motherboards, not CPU an i5 should be overclocked as much as you can for sc2, though even if the game is CPU bound i'm pretty sure it's not gpu bound. so you'll get roughly the same fps at 1080p as you will at 1440p | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
$400. Already have peripherals and monitor. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Browser games, mostly What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? streaming netflix, sending emails, using a web browser and viewing PDFs Do you intend to overclock? no Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? no Do you need an operating system? no Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? no need, already have these items If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. no preferences, though in terms of size nothing too large What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Amazon and Newegg are liked best. I can't reach a microcenter. So basically my dad wants a new home computer. It will need to be able to do netflix, basic word processing, and his web browsing and emailing. It needs to connect to his wi-fi network and read DVDs. The budget, including shipping and california's 7.5% sales tax, is $400. He has a keyboard, mouse, USB printer, and 1920x1080 monitor he wants to be compatible. I'm leaning towardsa G3220 since I've heard it has decent integrated graphics (good enough for driving one 1080p monitor and streaming video, I suppose) and I have the budget for it. an APU might be a better move though. Here's what I had in mind: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: *Biostar B85MG Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon) Memory: *Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg) Storage: *Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Rosewill 350W ATX Power Supply ($26.73 @ Amazon) Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Newegg) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($31.99 @ Newegg) Total: $343.65 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-07 05:26 EST-0500 | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
$55 for 8 gb of RAM is insane, damn, well found. Otherwise, does your dad need that much storage? Maybe a small SSD, just to make the system more responsive (e.g. <10 second boot time for windows) might be worth considering. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On March 07 2015 17:34 Incognoto wrote: i think faster RAM is supported by motherboards, not CPU an i5 should be overclocked as much as you can for sc2, though even if the game is CPU bound i'm pretty sure it's not gpu bound. so you'll get roughly the same fps at 1080p as you will at 1440p Thanks. Regarding OC-ing i5, i was just a bit unsure as of how much more power is just enough (minimum) as I dont feel like pushing it too hard though. And what are some decent mid-range cooler should I get as I dont think stock cooler is enough for oc-ing, or is stock cooler fine if I do some minimum oc-ing? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On March 07 2015 21:24 bluegarfield wrote: Thanks. Regarding OC-ing i5, i was just a bit unsure as of how much more power is just enough (minimum) as I dont feel like pushing it too hard though. And what are some decent mid-range cooler should I get as I dont think stock cooler is enough for oc-ing, or is stock cooler fine if I do some minimum oc-ing? You should get an aftermarket cooler. There's no such thing as "just enough", you'll always be very highly CPU bound in sc2. 5% more frequency will give 5% more FPS, and that'd be true even if our CPU's were 5 times faster. Whatever overclock you hit with ~1.25 - 1.35vcore is fine. You can't say what frequency it would end up at beforehand because of the silicon lottery, but you can plan motherboard and cooling around the voltage range that you want to use I'm not sure what's best to get in singapore but some midrange air at least --- @Blazinghand Power Supply: Rosewill 350W ATX Power Supply ($26.73 @ Amazon) That PSU looks pretty awful. Googled for a sec, full specs and reviews are either entirely missing or hard to find. Says dual rail and 350w "max" (not continuous), isn't 80+ etc. Might be alright to use for a low power system not needing pci-e power, but it might also be a fire hazard--- random note, shadowplay has been in beta for almost 2 years now :D | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
More importantly, that's one of the old models from the so-called Rosekill days, one from Deer (Solytech, Apex, Allied, etc.). Just start Googling those names and see what comes up. This is typical and not a cherry-picked example: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=65 | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On March 07 2015 23:12 Cyro wrote: You should get an aftermarket cooler. There's no such thing as "just enough", you'll always be very highly CPU bound in sc2. 5% more frequency will give 5% more FPS, and that'd be true even if our CPU's were 5 times faster. Whatever overclock you hit with ~1.25 - 1.35vcore is fine. You can't say what frequency it would end up at beforehand because of the silicon lottery, but you can plan motherboard and cooling around the voltage range that you want to use I'm not sure what's best to get in singapore but some midrange air at least Thank you. I got a small list of what seem to be available here + Show Spoiler [list] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zuzKDy6.png) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
For a non-enthusiast overclocker I wouldn't spend money on a top heatsink, though, so probably the Hyper 212X. Some better options available elsewhere for roughly the same price or slightly more might bee ideal, but you can't buy what's not on sale. | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
Also, is it reasonable to assume that bigger heatsink + bigger fan = better cooling? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On March 07 2015 23:12 Cyro wrote: --- @Blazinghand That PSU looks pretty awful. Googled for a sec, full specs and reviews are either entirely missing or hard to find. Says dual rail and 350w "max" (not continuous), isn't 80+ etc. Might be alright to use for a low power system not needing pci-e power, but it might also be a fire hazard --- random note, shadowplay has been in beta for almost 2 years now :D ok! Thanks for the advice. How about a Corsair CX430m which on newegg at least seems to have good reviews. here's what things look like now: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: *Biostar B85MG Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Amazon) Memory: *G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg) Storage: *Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon) Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.14 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Newegg) Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($31.99 @ Newegg) Total: $376.05 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-07 17:07 EST-0500 The large HD is because dad has lots of documents (videos, pictures, music etc) scattered across several HDs right now and I want them all available on his computer. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You don't want a Western Digital Green as your primary drive, you want a Western Digital Blue or another 7200 RPM drive. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
On March 08 2015 06:43 bluegarfield wrote: i see. thank you very much. I will look around to see what they have in store. Also, is it reasonable to assume that bigger heatsink + bigger fan = better cooling? Generally yea | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On March 08 2015 07:14 skyR wrote: At $55, just spend $5 more to get a Rosewill Capstone at $60, which is infinitely better at everything: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 You don't want a Western Digital Green as your primary drive, you want a Western Digital Blue or another 7200 RPM drive. ok, I'll do that. Going with a seagate barracuda as the main drive | ||
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