EPTComputer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread - Page 463
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GinyuSC
United States63 Posts
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GinyuSC
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Cyro
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GinyuSC
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GinyuSC
United States63 Posts
Pretty much took the build Cyro recommended to me and swapped the 960 to a 970 (thanks tax return) Note, I managed to get that Rosewill Blackhawk for free from a friend, only put it in pcpartpicker to show you the full build | ||
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GinyuSC
United States63 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
that's a really good deal wtf so jelly | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On March 09 2015 23:50 GinyuSC wrote: I know an enternet cable is better but my computer wont be close to my router :/ It's a 50 meter cable There are several of those plugged into my router because stuff across the house, down a floor and through like 5 walls just can't get a decent signal | ||
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Sunnyvale
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Hoping to get some confirmation here on a build i'm making for my father. He won't be gaming or anything on it and will mostly just do internet browsing, emails, streaming, the basics. I know what i put together may be overkill but he's willing to spend a little extra to have something that will be more than enough to handle what he wants to do. Can anyone tell me how this is looking? CPU - Intel Core i5-4460, integrated intel hd 4600 graphics http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302 Motherboard - AsRock H97 Anniversary http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157547 RAM - G.skill ripjaws 8gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 SSD - Samsung 850 evo series 120gb sata 3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147371 HDD - WD black series 1 TB 7200rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625 Power - Corsair CX500m http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050 Case - Deepcool Tesseract http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811853002 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840&cm_re=1TB-_-22-148-840-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339&cm_re=1TB-_-22-236-339-_-Product --- PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $20 after rebate, 5x as much power as you need, not one of the best PSU's but fine for a system like this (and probably miiiiiles better than whatever oem junk psu you'd get on any prebuilt) --- All of the cheaper motherboards seem to be matx, which is fine i guess. If you're buying a stock i5, it's best to get the 4570-4690 (price allowing) because they turbo substantially higher (a performance gain of 15% comparing the 4460 to the 4690). If it's a small price gap, worth. Haswell i5 is kinda overkill but it'll do whatever you want and you could drop in any GPU that you'd expect AFAIK in the future (like a 750 or 960). The iGPU should be fine. I'm not a big fan of the case (cheap LED fans are typically not particularly good fans) but it looks alright too, though i didn't go checking to see if stuff would fit i can't imagine why it wouldn't You can save $9 with a crucial mx100 SSD, but that's not very significant because it's probably the worse performing of the two drives http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313353 - $55 2x4GB 1600c9 1.5v RAM, there's a few other kits near the price if you want different colored heatspreaders etc | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
Also, unrelated to the above, is there significant difference between different brand of RAM, say HyperX or G-Skills or Corsair Dominator? I am confused by people swear by one brand while disregarding other brands. Or is it just a brand-preference thing | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
TLDR: look at list: http://sinhardware.com/index.php/vrm-list As for RAM, it's mostly brand preference. But Dominators are one of Corsair's premium lines so most of the SKUs belonging to the Dominators family will be binned. | ||
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Sunnyvale
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On March 10 2015 10:40 Cyro wrote: Seagate 1TB drive or WD blue for $20 cheaper, but the seagate drive aparantly has an additional promo code for unknown amount off~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840&cm_re=1TB-_-22-148-840-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339&cm_re=1TB-_-22-236-339-_-Product --- PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $20 after rebate, 5x as much power as you need, not one of the best PSU's but fine for a system like this (and probably miiiiiles better than whatever oem junk psu you'd get on any prebuilt) --- All of the cheaper motherboards seem to be matx, which is fine i guess. If you're buying a stock i5, it's best to get the 4570-4690 (price allowing) because they turbo substantially higher (a performance gain of 15% comparing the 4460 to the 4690). If it's a small price gap, worth. Haswell i5 is kinda overkill but it'll do whatever you want and you could drop in any GPU that you'd expect AFAIK in the future (like a 750 or 960). The iGPU should be fine. I'm not a big fan of the case (cheap LED fans are typically not particularly good fans) but it looks alright too, though i didn't go checking to see if stuff would fit i can't imagine why it wouldn't You can save $9 with a crucial mx100 SSD, but that's not very significant because it's probably the worse performing of the two drives http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313353 - $55 2x4GB 1600c9 1.5v RAM, there's a few other kits near the price if you want different colored heatspreaders etc Alright, i changed these parts in. Thank you very much for your help Cyro | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
On March 10 2015 11:39 skyR wrote: For VRMs, read this: http://sinhardware.com/index.php/vrm-articles/82-vrm-guide TLDR: look at list: http://sinhardware.com/index.php/vrm-list As for RAM, it's mostly brand preference. But Dominators are one of Corsair's premium lines so most of the SKUs belonging to the Dominators family will be binned. Thank you  | ||
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89vision
United States70 Posts
She will be running CPU - Haswell i3-4160 SSD - Kingston V300 120Gb And either ASRock H97M Anniversary or ASRock H97M-ITX/ac depending on what case I choose. The latter is attractive because it has WAN onboard, is that correct? My question is, can I re-purpose my Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel for her build? Or is this so outdated that it will hold back her PC. My thinking on this was I could save ~$60 on her build, and use that for a nicer case or peripherals. Also my computer just turned 3, and could use an upgrade. I want to add the same SSD as above, and possibly go from 8gb of the above Mushkin RAM, to 16gb DDR3-1600. I open alot (8-30) of browser tabs at once, as well as play DOTA2 at the same time. Usually I don't have an issue but sometimes I have to close some stuff. The main issue I am having now is errors when waking my PC up from sleep, slow boot times, and occasional lag during streaming/gaming when I have alot of stuff open. My current build is: CPU - Intel i-2500K @ 4.3Ghz Cooler - Evo 212+ MOBO - MSI P67 G43 GPU - MSI FermiHawk 460 PSU - Antec 650W Green Bronze+ RAM - Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 I don't plan on playing any newer games other than DOTA2. So I'm fine with my GPU. Am I right in thinking the RAM and lack of SSD are the parts holding me back right now? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
the v300 is a pretty bad SSD. It wasn't amazing before, but they shipped one version to reviewers and then crippled it with a hardware change under the hood and didn't announce it. There are much better SSD's out there~ 8-30 isn't a lot of browser tabs, i have 10 tabs open using ~300MB of RAM so 30 would use ~0.85GB at that rate. I only pass 5GB of RAM when playing specific games while also having browser tabs open. Planetside 2 is one of them, because it likes to use huge amounts of RAM (gets up to ~5.5GB alone, maybe more) but i don't get close to 8GB even with that game unless i have stuff open that i don't want open but just never bothered to close, or i have like a week or system uptime and lots of bloat. You can easily check RAM usage anyway, and you should definitely get an SSD. --- Interesting vid: GPU bound with 5.5k units on a Kaveri CPU and a 290? I'l believe it when i see it, but if they bring good input (both sc2 and grey goo have big problems with huge spikes of input lag that happen on every game tick, ~22hz for sc2 @Faster and 20hz for grey goo) then it'll be awesome. A Kaveri 2-module CPU probably doesn't hold up well against overclocked Skylake, too  god this is beautiful ignore the AMD bias in the second vid though it's on their official channel :D (the comment about not being able to run @4k is pretty funny, considering you can historically run pretty much every CPU bound game like sc2 at 720p or 4k with no change in FPS because the GPU is idle anyway because of CPU/API bottlenecking heavily) GPU bound with 2x 290@stock @30fps @4k - that implies ~80fps on those settings with a single 980 on 1080p, i'd imagine. Turning down graphical settings is easy though, just have to see if CPU is stuck at 30fps or not. WTB this game +gsync +OC skylake £££££££ Saw a second video with it playing and frametimes fluctuating, they seem pretty solid and not deviating far from the actual FPS - there's only footage of the game playing at ~20-30fps though, so i have no idea if they can actually make it more responsive than that or how it would behave then. With 20-25fps (40-50ms frames on average) then the longest frames being ~45-50ms with an occasional 55-60ms is completely fine, however if you're playing at 100fps (10ms frames) then you'd want all frames to be faster than ~12-15ms if possible, and frames taking 20, 30, 50ms would present as jerky motion and inconsistent input lag like some other RTS's have suffered greatly from. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 08 2015 10:33 Cyro wrote: What case you got and what parts in it? The rough figure that matters for case airflow is just wattage under load (with my 980, 4770k and OC's, that's comfortably 400w or so for me) - power usage = heat output = how many and how high performance fans you need to keep case temperature at a reasonable delta over room temperature i5-4590 3.5 ghz with GTX970. Case is bitfenix neos midsize tower, two intake fans on front. Nothing's overclocked. Sorry if I didn't make it obvious that the cooling demand is very low, just that I want to spend a little extra on quiet operation if that comes under budget. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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