EPT[G] Streaming With Two Computers - Page 2
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
NOTE: I know this can be an issue if you have multiple monitors on one pc, but we only have one for each PC so it shouldnt be related to that... The capture card is "technically" counted as a monitor on a lot of levels Throw me a PM or post more if you'd like, id love to help with things if i can, though im inexperienced with dual pc and capture card i might be able to help out some with setup, settings, or any issues (: | ||
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HellGreen
Denmark1146 Posts
On January 04 2013 21:00 Liquid`Jinro wrote: So, helping Huk setup dual PCs for streaming, and we've run into some trouble.... His main PC (the gaming one), insists on the capture card being counted as the MAIN DISPLAY... I went into resolution settings, changed the extend display thingy... and then went to make the actual monitor his main display... except it wouldn't let me, and now whenever the HDMI cable from the capture card is plugged in, his screen is black, but I have no way of changing the settings back to what they were because lol can't detect the capture card if it isnt connected. Halp meh  NOTE: I know this can be an issue if you have multiple monitors on one pc, but we only have one for each PC so it shouldnt be related to that... I'd also be happy to offer my help here. But first, you say the capture card is in his gaming pc? It's usually supposed to be in the streaming pc, getting a copy of the gaming pc's video. Please clarify the setup for us. Here's my questions: What capture card are we talking here? AverMedia Live Gamer HD? And is it Windows 7? The part about Windows not letting you reset the displays is unfortunately common. Here's a tip if nothing else works. Just tell it not to use the display in the 'extend display thingy' and then reboot. This will allow you to reconfigure the display settings. If need be, remove the cable after you tell it to reboot, or even remove the capture card physically during one reboot. | ||
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sirdodgy
United Kingdom20 Posts
After this part: Xsplit seems to only allow one recording device input and both the microphone and the Line In port both count as recording devices. To get around this we must listen to one of the devices. To do this (On windows 7 at least) go to Control Panel / Hardware and Sound / Manage audio devices / Recording and right click either the Microphone or the Line In go to Properties / Listen and tick “Listen to this device”. This makes the gaming pc’s speakers play though the streaming pc’s speakers and allows you to use both the line in and a microphone with xsplit, even though they are both recording devices. I added For this work around to work, you must actually have a device plugged into the streaming pc to act as the default device! I used some old earbuds which don't make enough sound for me to even hear. There is probably a way to circumvent this but this way was simple enough. The streaming pc doesnt actually play the sound unless it has a device to play it out of it seems. Im sure you can use virtual audio cables to work around it or something but plugging in headphones worked for me. Only just checked this post, sorry for not getting back to you in time jinro. It seems legions of twitter followers found the solution anyway :D. Add me on steam as a last resort if you cant figure something out, http://steamcommunity.com/id/sirdodgy/ | ||
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aR2k
Norway2 Posts
Gaming PC: i5 2500k, 16gb of ram, GTX670 EVGA. Streaming PC: i7 860 2.8ghz, 4gb of ram, GTX 465. Planning on buying the Avermedia Live Gamer HD, connect that to the stream PC, which imo should be more than good enough to stream at a decent quality, and take the strain off my gaming PC. I currently stream directly from the gaming PC using Dxtory and Xsplit, its slightly laggy but not so much that it completely handicaps my gaming experience. Is there anything I need to know? Programs i should need (i know of synergy ofcourse). Cables I need for sound or other. Problems with the avermedia live gamer HD from users here who currently use it? How much of a boost will I be looking at by using this streaming computer with the capture card? Any tips or tricks will be much appreciated, its a lot of cash to splash, so would like to know if its worth it | ||
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sirdodgy
United Kingdom20 Posts
Streaming with 2 computers and a Avermedia Live Gamer HD means you will not be able to have higher than 60hz on your main monitor. I think this is something to do with the fact that the Avermedia Live Gamer HD only accepts hdmi which is limited to 60hz and theres isnt an easy way to make your computer ouput 60hz and 120 hz to two different sources. So if you have a 120hz monitor, prepare to give that up. As far as I know there is no fix, but I would love to be corrected. The Avermedia Live Gamer HD and most capture cards have screen tearing. Im not aware of a card that doesnt have this, I think its to do with them not accepting 120hz input or something.. You can notice on a lot of tournament streams that even they have screen tearing, especially the ones sponsored by Avermedia Live Gamer HD haha, but on rts and moba games it doesnt matter at all, however streaming fps games it is quite obvious. This is only on the stream, the screen tearing isnt changed on your main pc. Someone REALLY needs to make a 120hz capture card... I have heard that screen tearing doesnt occur if you have a 60hz monitor or you lock your fps to 60 or set some stuff up but I couldnt make it work, I would get massive screen tearing at 60fps both on my monitor and the stream (which is the reason I got a 120hz monitor in the first place) so couldnt stream tf2, my main game .The Avermedia Live Gamer HD is fine as a capture card, but the inbuilt sH.264 Hardware Compression is COMPLETE AND UTTER shit. Obviously you arent going to be using it for that, but its just something to be aware of. If you are just planning to stream rts, or maybe slow paced fps, and have a 60hz monitor everything will be dandy. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
The screen tearing is extremely noticable and problematic for me, at least, not sure of other people, but then again most seem to be insensitive to performance problems and other issues, at least more so than me | ||
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mrgoochio
United States557 Posts
On February 20 2013 19:26 sirdodgy wrote: aR2K, some things to be aware of before you splash the cash. Here are the down sides. Streaming with 2 computers and a Avermedia Live Gamer HD means you will not be able to have higher than 60hz on your main monitor. I think this is something to do with the fact that the Avermedia Live Gamer HD only accepts hdmi which is limited to 60hz and theres isnt an easy way to make your computer ouput 60hz and 120 hz to two different sources. So if you have a 120hz monitor, prepare to give that up. As far as I know there is no fix, but I would love to be corrected. The Avermedia Live Gamer HD and most capture cards have screen tearing. Im not aware of a card that doesnt have this, I think its to do with them not accepting 120hz input or something.. You can notice on a lot of tournament streams that even they have screen tearing, especially the ones sponsored by Avermedia Live Gamer HD haha, but on rts and moba games it doesnt matter at all, however streaming fps games it is quite obvious. This is only on the stream, the screen tearing isnt changed on your main pc. Someone REALLY needs to make a 120hz capture card... I have heard that screen tearing doesnt occur if you have a 60hz monitor or you lock your fps to 60 or set some stuff up but I couldnt make it work, I would get massive screen tearing at 60fps both on my monitor and the stream (which is the reason I got a 120hz monitor in the first place) so couldnt stream tf2, my main game .The Avermedia Live Gamer HD is fine as a capture card, but the inbuilt sH.264 Hardware Compression is COMPLETE AND UTTER shit. Obviously you arent going to be using it for that, but its just something to be aware of. If you are just planning to stream rts, or maybe slow paced fps, and have a 60hz monitor everything will be dandy. I've used a dual streaming PC setup for months with an avermedia live gamer HD and my gaming PC utilizes 120hz since the start. You need to hook your gaming computer to your gaming monitor via DVI and set windows to 120hz and clone desktop for the streaming PC. My stream has minimal screen tearing and I believe it's due to my gaming PC running at 120hz while the cap card is 60hz limited as you said. My gaming experience is 100% as if i was not streaming, no tearing, no additional lag from stream. Also, if you are streaming with the avermedia live gamer HD, you will not be using the encoding as it will be purely for the screen capture. Even on a single PC setup, its probably best used a screen capture device and leave your CPU to handle encoding | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
My gaming experience is 100% as if i was not streaming, no tearing, no additional lag from stream Id like to see this backed up by thorough benchmarks, im curious if it is close enough for you to not notice performance degradation or if there is literally no or almost no measurable loss (: | ||
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mrgoochio
United States557 Posts
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KMAGyoyo
United States5 Posts
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sirdodgy
United Kingdom20 Posts
Also yeah there isnt zero performance loss for streaming on two computers but its much much lower. I havent looked into it myself but I have also heard that using a 120hz monitor is possible. | ||
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supapao
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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HellGreen
Denmark1146 Posts
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UnknownShots
United Kingdom1 Post
I have captured what Im playing on my gaming rig but no sound, I have a Logitech G930 wireless Headset so unlike you I cant get a 3.5 splitter. A mate told me to download 'Virtual Audio cable' and gave me a video to watch but that program is really confusing for me anyway.... Here is the video thanks - | ||
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kezzko
1 Post
My setup works perfect, except: As soon as i connect the two PC´s i got tearing ingame. Both PC´s running at about 50% load I tried everything Vsync/adaptiv/tripplebuffer/FPSlimiter/etc. Anyone got same issues or tipps? | ||
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Hajimoto
United States5 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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Hajimoto
United States5 Posts
On December 16 2014 17:29 Cyro wrote: Nice OC's! Thank you! Yes I got lucky on these Intels On December 16 2014 17:29 Cyro wrote: have you tried using your Displayports? Please see my REVISED POST which now has a marked up port usage illustration of the GTX 980. | ||
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