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I was wondering if I should buy a i7 2700k now or wait for Ivy Bridge i7 3770k, which is expected to come out in a couple of weeks.
Rumor has it that the Ivy Bridge processors will be terrible overclockers due to extremely high temperatures. Source
I have my build ready except for mobo/processor. Got a 620w Seasonic PSU, 8gig DDR3 2133 ram, and an Corsair H60 CPU cooler with 2 Scythe Gentle Typhoons for the radiator. Still havent bought the GPU yet. Still trying to decide if I should go mid-range Kepler or just get a 560ti 448 now. Anyone opinions on this as well?
I am looking to stream with little to no FPS drop so the 10% increase in CPU performance from the Ivy Bridge processors would help. I also plan to overclock to 4.3-4.5 ghz.
Thank you very much in advance.
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I would get an ivy bridge motherboard and if you really need to overclock, a sandy bridge processor. getting an ivy bridge motherboard leaves your upgrade path open while still allowing you to use a sandy bridge processor.
Also it doesn't matter what system you have, you will have fps drop. Unless the game you plan to play is extremely GPU limited (almost none are fyi) you'll be limited on the processor side which is what is mostly used for streaming.
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I don't know about the whole "3770k is hotter thing. Maybe they just got a bad test chip or something. From what I've heard is you get better and cooler overclocks. But then I ask you, why get a 2700k y not a 2600K? You can acheive pretty much same overclocks as the 2700k for $20 cheaper. Even with an H60 you can get decent overclocking temps, 4.3 ghz is really just a multiplier increase. I would say if you can't wait, just get a 2600k, and if you have the patience then get the 3770k.
Depending on what games your playing, if your just playing sc2, then get the 560, if your thinking about other games that are more GPU demanding then go with a 680 or 7970
On April 15 2012 18:37 MSgtGunny wrote:
I would get an ivy bridge motherboard and if you really need to overclock, a sandy bridge processor. getting an ivy bridge motherboard leaves your upgrade path open while still allowing you to use a sandy bridge processor.
Also it doesn't matter what system you have, you will have fps drop. Unless the game you plan to play is extremely GPU limited (almost none are fyi) you'll be limited on the processor side which is what is mostly used for streaming.
afaik, ivy bridge and sandybridge are backwards compatible, both 1155 socket.
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I'd get the 2700k. If you want to upgrade to ivy bridge in the future you can sell the 2700k and upgrade to ivy. Both use the socket 1155. Also the 2700k is a cherry picked cpu made for overclocking. It's an excellent choice and I use it. I haven't had the need to overclock it yet, so I can't tell you the results. However reviews I've read about ocing it, all have said it ocs amazingly and preforms very well. Also the ivy bridge rumors... rumors are rumors, it could totally blow sandy bridge out of the water, but nobody will know until it's out and benchmarks are available. Choice is yours!
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Even at stock freqency it should be more than enough for streaming.
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About a month ago I bought a 2700K and did not regret it. Ivy Bridge will – at least at launch – not provide a significant performance upgrade, so you would need to wait even longer for higher-clocked models. I can overclock my 2700K with no effort to 4.4 GHz (higher frequencies would require more voltage on my model but I am too lazy to check that out.) Currently I use my computer to play SC2 and stream or make HD casts with stock clock. The CPU can handle it.
With GPUs, it doesn't make sense to wait either. The technology advances, there will always be a better GPU on the horizon.
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On April 15 2012 18:41 Boblhead wrote:
I don't know about the whole "3770k is hotter thing. Maybe they just got a bad test chip or something. From what I've heard is you get better and cooler overclocks
I dunno seems like everybody posting benchmarks right now has crazy high temps up above 4,5k
@ OP: another thing to consider is that i7-2600ks are $200 at microcenter right now.
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wait for reviews
I think IB is 1-2 weeks from release
reports are that IB is hot though and will not OC as well as desired, but wait for reviews
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On April 16 2012 01:20 phar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 18:41 Boblhead wrote:
I don't know about the whole "3770k is hotter thing. Maybe they just got a bad test chip or something. From what I've heard is you get better and cooler overclocks I dunno seems like everybody posting benchmarks right now has crazy high temps up above 4,5k @ OP: another thing to consider is that i7-2600ks are $200 at microcenter right now.
I don't know what you're thinking if you'd not buy a 2600k for $200...
The Ivy bridge seems to be 7%-10% better than the 2600k stock temps, and it probably doesn't OC as well, and for $100-$150 bucks cheaper you'd be crazy not to buy the SB instead.
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On April 16 2012 02:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 01:20 phar wrote:On April 15 2012 18:41 Boblhead wrote:
I don't know about the whole "3770k is hotter thing. Maybe they just got a bad test chip or something. From what I've heard is you get better and cooler overclocks I dunno seems like everybody posting benchmarks right now has crazy high temps up above 4,5k @ OP: another thing to consider is that i7-2600ks are $200 at microcenter right now. I don't know what you're thinking if you'd not buy a 2600k for $200... The Ivy bridge seems to be 7%-10% better than the 2600k stock temps, and it probably doesn't OC as well, and for $100-$150 bucks cheaper you'd be crazy not to buy the SB instead.
I don't even have a lga1155 setup yet and *I* bought one, because FUCK that's like a 35%++ discount. Also I need a new computer anyways. 6 year old athlons are good, yes?
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It makes me sad that I bought a 2500k for that a couple months back now for $10 more than that D;
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Or you can do like ghetto old me and if you live near a computer store, go buy the 2600k from there and then return it when you have enough for the 3770k
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On April 16 2012 01:20 phar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 18:41 Boblhead wrote:
I don't know about the whole "3770k is hotter thing. Maybe they just got a bad test chip or something. From what I've heard is you get better and cooler overclocks I dunno seems like everybody posting benchmarks right now has crazy high temps up above 4,5k @ OP: another thing to consider is that i7-2600ks are $200 at microcenter right now.
They're all sold out T_T
i5 2500k is still in stock at the Microcenter near me for dirt cheap though. $180. Like the i7, instore only.
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That's a 3570k. But yes, what you said is likely true as well.
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Isnt a 2700k just a more expensive 2600k with higher stock speeds.
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Yeah i doubt the core is cherry picked for even higher overclocking as well. pretty sure its just tested to run at its 100mhz gain and off it goes.
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On April 16 2012 06:14 phar wrote:
That's a 3570k. But yes, what you said is likely true as well.
Oops, fixed.
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I'd go for the i7-2600k - I just recently upgraded my computer and the processor alone will be able to handle pretty much everything for the new few years alone with a low oc.
I Currently run my 2600k at 4.6ghz on air sitting roughly at 60c max on prime95.
- Also whenever deciding should I upgrade or not to, upgrade imo.
Future tip: If you want to wait for the next best thing to release in a month or two you'll never get your computer upgraded.
There will always be better stuff around the corner, buy for what you need now and the next year or 2.
2600k will easily handle that.
For gpu, I dunno if your budget can handle it but a 680gtx can handle anything on ultra high settings w/ 1 monitor currently. That or pick up a 580gtx, a ton of people selling 580's upgrading to 680. You can buy a used one for 300~ or less.
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If you are going to overclock (a lot), get the 2600K. Ivy Bridge will not be good at heavy overclocking if ES reviews are correct. I don't really see the need for overclocking over 4GHz (which Ivy Bridge should do well) other than flaunting your e-penis :D
So I would go with Ivy Bridge since it will use less power and save you money in the long run.
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