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Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
February 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#141
On February 08 2012 00:23 Nausea wrote:
Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.

i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...

Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?

And this is my test on speedtest.net

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Gunrun..... you are the god of all things stream. We thank you!
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
February 08 2012 03:22 GMT
#142
So informative.
Thanks so much!
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
February 08 2012 03:49 GMT
#143
GunRun, A while ago (even now perhaps) I was given the advice that you should have your buffer = 1/4 of your max birate (2000 bitrate, 500 buffer). However here, your amazing guide says it should be 1:1 ratio (2000 bitrate, 2000 buffer).

Why is that?

Like, any hard numbers/proof/theory on why 1:1 bitrate/buffer is better then 4:1 ratio?
Aiyeeeee
Toastmold
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada207 Posts
February 08 2012 08:11 GMT
#144
Awesome thanks! Quite helpful.
hi.
SpiritClown
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy35 Posts
February 08 2012 08:13 GMT
#145
Very useful post... now i only wish i'd have a powerful enough pc to stream
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
February 08 2012 09:55 GMT
#146
Does anyone know how to have your microphone also be broadcasted with the stream?
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
February 08 2012 11:11 GMT
#147
On February 08 2012 12:49 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
GunRun, A while ago (even now perhaps) I was given the advice that you should have your buffer = 1/4 of your max birate (2000 bitrate, 500 buffer). However here, your amazing guide says it should be 1:1 ratio (2000 bitrate, 2000 buffer).

Why is that?

Like, any hard numbers/proof/theory on why 1:1 bitrate/buffer is better then 4:1 ratio?


No no no, read the Xsplit official FAQ. It says either 1x or 2x your bitrate, 2x bitrate is recommended.
Delay559
Profile Joined January 2011
France89 Posts
February 08 2012 15:02 GMT
#148
On February 07 2012 03:55 TheGunrun wrote:
Max Bitrate - Keep this 500-600kbps below your max upload rate. (Going above 3000kbps may cause issues for viewers who do not have a sufficient Internet connection)



you know its bad when your upload rate is 400kbps and if you goo 500 under you stream at -100 T_T


other then that very imformative post!!!
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UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 16:01:58
February 08 2012 16:01 GMT
#149
On February 08 2012 06:31 saynomore wrote:
Is a AMD 3.1 Ghz tripple core good enough to stream?


You will get ingame lag with that CPU.
For those who own AMD processors, such as myself, it is highly recommended that you should go for at LEAST a AMD Phenom X II 955.
I have a Phenom II X6 1100T (OCd and watercooled) and it does the job pretty damn well. Intel i5 or i7s are a lot better, though, and if you have the cash, go for the upgrade.
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DSUSlave
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 19:11:45
February 08 2012 19:11 GMT
#150
When I try and stream my play, I get some lag in my actions. Which part of my setup is likely the culprit?

Phenom X4 II 955
4 GIG RAM
2GIG Video Mem AMD 8970

Could it have anything to do with my internet UP/DOWN?
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
February 08 2012 22:40 GMT
#151
On February 08 2012 06:31 saynomore wrote:
Is a AMD 3.1 Ghz tripple core good enough to stream?


I had a triple core Phenom II and had a really, really hard time streaming. To the point of it almost being impossible to stream HD.

That extra core on a quad core makes a world of difference.
Might makes right.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
February 09 2012 00:07 GMT
#152
I am not sure if audio os covered. But for some reason it seems whenever I stream. I always get a sort of echo on the audio on the stream, or almost if it sounds like its coming from a outside source other than the computer, even with my mic off.

Any suggestions?
PotashDrone
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 03:49:00
February 09 2012 03:46 GMT
#153
Just used this to get a stream up for getting coached; was really handy. Did have a problem where my mic was the only audio hitting the stream. The stream wasn't getting game sounds or the coach's voice.. Anyways thanks Gunrun!
flyersa
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany141 Posts
February 09 2012 14:10 GMT
#154
nice overview, however this is wrong:

"if you have a very powerful CPU (inluding the recommended ones) you can try “faster” or “fast.”"

this refers to x264 encoding presets. Actually fast and faster require less performance then default, normal, slow, slower and so on. As slower you set it up to ultraslow the more performance you require.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 09 2012 17:31 GMT
#155
Simple question:

If I got the Hauppauge Colossus would I still need a blazing CPU to stream, or would Hauppauge Colossus handle most of the heavy lifting? I have priced out the upgrades necessary and a full upgrade is not in the budget(mother board needs to be replaced for a more up to date CPU), so that is not an option. Also, will I need to split my output to my steam and the card as well? If I am going to order one, I want to order all the necessary cables and adaptors as well.
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Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
February 09 2012 17:44 GMT
#156
Thanks for taking the time and making this awesome post Gunrun.
zvolim
Profile Joined January 2011
22 Posts
February 09 2012 18:13 GMT
#157
On February 09 2012 23:10 flyersa wrote:
nice overview, however this is wrong:

"if you have a very powerful CPU (inluding the recommended ones) you can try “faster” or “fast.”"

this refers to x264 encoding presets. Actually fast and faster require less performance then default, normal, slow, slower and so on. As slower you set it up to ultraslow the more performance you require.



Default requires less performance than fast and faster since it's more or less equivalent to veryfast.

And by the way, even if your computer is half as powerful as the cpus mentioned you should try faster and fast.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
February 09 2012 18:17 GMT
#158
On February 10 2012 02:31 Plansix wrote:
Simple question:

If I got the Hauppauge Colossus would I still need a blazing CPU to stream, or would Hauppauge Colossus handle most of the heavy lifting? I have priced out the upgrades necessary and a full upgrade is not in the budget(mother board needs to be replaced for a more up to date CPU), so that is not an option. Also, will I need to split my output to my steam and the card as well? If I am going to order one, I want to order all the necessary cables and adaptors as well.


I don't think xsplit can directly stream another h264 source (someone correct me if wrong), that is, without encoding again, so it would be a waste over buying a cheaper raw capture card.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 09 2012 18:52 GMT
#159
On February 10 2012 03:17 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 02:31 Plansix wrote:
Simple question:

If I got the Hauppauge Colossus would I still need a blazing CPU to stream, or would Hauppauge Colossus handle most of the heavy lifting? I have priced out the upgrades necessary and a full upgrade is not in the budget(mother board needs to be replaced for a more up to date CPU), so that is not an option. Also, will I need to split my output to my steam and the card as well? If I am going to order one, I want to order all the necessary cables and adaptors as well.


I don't think xsplit can directly stream another h264 source (someone correct me if wrong), that is, without encoding again, so it would be a waste over buying a cheaper raw capture card.


The prices of any of the cards is not a huge issue. My real question is will the card handle the streaming aspect without further(or minimal) burden on my CPU. I will buy whatever card does the job, but I want one that works with Xsplit without to much trouble.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Arch00
Profile Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
February 10 2012 03:46 GMT
#160
Are there any guides out there on how to set up the Blackmagic Design Intensity pro for PC streaming? I'm wondering specifically on how the connections to it work. Do you connect an HDMI splitter to your video card and send one to your video card and the other to the Blackmagic PCI card? How do you stream sound if your video card is only set up to do video?

Thanks
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