I feel like I'm out of the loop on one factor. xsplit is currently free but constantly advertises that it won't be for long, asking people to pay for it ahead of time for "cheap". What's the deal here? I've been seeing it for about a year now since my first time playing with streaming.

Chylith

Canada167 Posts

February 07 2012 07:05 GMT

#103

You're amazing Gunrun, really helpful thread! <3 and just a note about the overclocking part of this Kyo, some older games are allergic to overclocked components(and crossfire gpu) ;p just a thought for people before they do try overclocking.+ Show Spoiler +

[QUOTE]On February 07 2012 04:38 l_Kyo_l wrote:
edit: Gunrun is too helpful too the community. Everytime I see him pop up somewhere I only wish I could be as helpful haha. This is really great for people who are completely new to streaming, would have helped me about a year ago so much T_T :D

To give people some "specific" help I've taken screenshots of MY personal settings to help give some benchmarks of what you can do with your stuff.
I have a Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W exactly as noted above - however mine is OC'ed to 4.6ghz. For this CPU and streaming I HIGHLY recommend OC'ing if you'd like above high quality - of course BE SAFE when doing this! >.> For whatever reason, the CPU can record any local recording without OC regardless of the game or quality, but needs to be OC'ed greatly to get good streaming results - from my experience, again.
I have a GTX 560 OC
and for less important information I have
8gigs of ram
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for i5 and i7s
and a MSI P67A-G45 motherboard
A pretty cheap setup now and days... runs about ~800$/1000 but look below for my results

For my xsplit settings I have them set to this(I'm only using this because my upload at schools is incredibly high, see last screenshot for luls.) Prior to increasing all of xsplits settings I used 7 quality/2900 bitrate and the quality was still incredibly high. As noted above you don't really need the quality turned all the way up, prior to my current setup xsplit would not work properly if it was above 8 quality. >.>
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CDRdude

United States5625 Posts

February 07 2012 07:57 GMT

#104

This is an awesome guide. Well done.

Gropah

Netherlands58 Posts

February 07 2012 08:25 GMT

#105

Please also include all the AMD Phenom II X6 and FX-8XXX processors in the CPU list. I have an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (@2.8GHz) and I can stream 720P flawlessly in SC2 and BF3.

You also might consider a bit about DXtory as it requires less from the computer and you can stream all games with it. Screen region can't. It will only stream (borderless) windowed mode.

Link to channel for proof.

snowbird

Germany2044 Posts

February 07 2012 08:27 GMT

#106

Thanks for this guide, will try it out when I'm at home, always wanted to try streaming some random stuff just for fun.

Wonder if my Phenom II X4 3.5Ghz will be able to handle a 720p stream?
(Rest of specs 8GB 1333Mhz RAM, GTX460, 100/100Mbit line)

Kmonx

United States102 Posts

February 07 2012 08:44 GMT

#107

Thanks for sharing this awesome guide gunrun.

WTFZerg

United States704 Posts

February 07 2012 09:00 GMT

#108

On February 07 2012 17:27 snowbird wrote:
Thanks for this guide, will try it out when I'm at home, always wanted to try streaming some random stuff just for fun.

Wonder if my Phenom II X4 3.5Ghz will be able to handle a 720p stream?
(Rest of specs 8GB 1333Mhz RAM, GTX460, 100/100Mbit line)

Yes.

Noop

United States7 Posts

February 07 2012 09:05 GMT

#109

Stream for friends occasionally but have low upload speed, very helpful in finding the problem. Much appreciated.

Boblhead

United States2577 Posts

February 07 2012 09:08 GMT

#110

On February 07 2012 18:05 Noop wrote:
Stream for friends occasionally but have low upload speed, very helpful in finding the problem. Much appreciated.

upgrade your internet.

Gropah

Netherlands58 Posts

February 07 2012 09:10 GMT

#111

On February 07 2012 18:00 WTFZerg wrote:

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Yes.

I do not concur.

I had a friend who had a X4. but was not able to stream at 720P. This is due to the amount of threats I guess. The overclock will help the get you above 480P, but I dont think he'll be able to stream at 720P

Ash

Malaysia1978 Posts

February 07 2012 09:46 GMT

#112

stream 1080p on my first generation i7 920 and have absolute no problems at all so i think all generations of i7 are more than enough to handle this

Arkanthiel

Philippines100 Posts

February 07 2012 10:11 GMT

#113

Thank you gunrun! I really needed this post.

skyride

Scotland103 Posts

February 07 2012 10:19 GMT

#114

You've skipped out mentioning DXtory. It's a bit complicated, but it's a sick piece of software and does everything XSplit's Game Source feature does but better. Any chance you could add that? It's like $40 to buy, well worth it if you want to stream well. LIke 95% as good as a capture card.

Avean

Norway449 Posts

February 07 2012 10:30 GMT

#115

VBV buffer should be double of what youre bitrate is, not 1:1 as said in this guide. (reference: XSplit dev team)

zvolim

22 Posts

February 07 2012 11:26 GMT

#116

It would have helped more people if you had explained how the different settings (preset, bitrate, fps, resolution, quality, buffer) impact on the CPU, upload rate and quality of the stream. I only have 1mb upload and a 3ghz quadcore and by chooosing a good combination of preset, quality and resolution I drastically improved the quality of my stream.
You gave random value for each setting and information on devices that nobody uses (almost nobody probably). This helps a small percentage of streamers in my opinion.

iAmiAnC

United Kingdom317 Posts

February 07 2012 11:47 GMT

#117

Great post thanks! What's your opinion on going below 30 fps (for SC2 streaming)? Personally I have 900kbp/s upload and I've found going down to 19 or 20 fps allows me to get a decent picture quality with limited bandwidth. The low fps becomes much more noticable at 15 though.

Changing the preset speed as mentioned to something a bit slower than the default is definitely also worth exploring if you have a decent PC and limited bandwidth.

djcube

United States985 Posts

February 07 2012 12:00 GMT

#118

On February 07 2012 17:25 Guussieboy wrote:
Please also include all the AMD Phenom II X6 and FX-8XXX processors in the CPU list. I have an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (@2.8GHz) and I can stream 720P flawlessly in SC2 and BF3.

You also might consider a bit about DXtory as it requires less from the computer and you can stream all games with it. Screen region can't. It will only stream (borderless) windowed mode.

Link to channel for proof.

Except there's no reason to recommend a 1055T when a 2500K is at about the same price point or cheaper and wrecks it in performance.

Gropah

Netherlands58 Posts

February 07 2012 14:43 GMT

#119

On February 07 2012 21:00 djcube wrote:

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Except there's no reason to recommend a 1055T when a 2500K is at about the same price point or cheaper and wrecks it in performance.

The AMD X6 and FX-8XXX series is always cheaper (in the netherlands), but indeed an 2500K is faster and I would recommend a 2500K now, but he should note though that these are also useable to stream, so people wont have to buy a whole new PC when they want to stream...

Nausea

Sweden807 Posts

February 07 2012 15:23 GMT

#120

Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.

i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...

Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?

And this is my test on speedtest.net

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