Since you’re reading this on TeamLiquid you’re probably interested in streaming “VIDEO GAMES.” So let’s get started!
Later on I’ll be breaking down specifics for each genre of game (PC or Console; FPS, RTS, Fighter), but first let’s get down to the basics!
THE COMPUTER
So yeah, you will need one of these. Preferably a pretty speedy one, specifically talking about processor here (AKA the CPU).
The processor is the most important component in a streaming computer. The better the processor, the more you can do. This is especially true if you’re broadcasting PC titles such as StarCraft 2 and Battlefield 3 (CPU Hogs).
Recommended Processors:
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 95W Hyperthreading - Introduction of Virtual Processors (Utilized by XSplit) Minimizes in-game side effects (lag) caused by streaming TheGunrun Approved ®
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W Cost effective - Significantly smaller price point than the i7-2600k Sufficient for most streamers’ needs Eleine’s Seal of Recommendation™
As for the other components, get what’s “decent” these days: basically what normal people would have to run StarCraft 2 at Ultra settings.
Also for RAM, get DDR3-2133 if possible (slight advantage with encoding).
Basic XSplit Setup
This is a very basic and general guide to setting up XSplit. You can download and register for XSplit here.
1. Adding your stream channel
Go to Broadcast > Edit Channels
On the right side click Add > Justin/TwitchTV
Enter your TwitchTV username and password at the top - On the TwitchTV Website, be sure to have visited your broadcaster dashboard at least once!
Quality - Set to 8
Preset - Keep it at “XSplit Default.” Iif you have a very powerful CPU (inluding the recommended ones) you can try “faster” or “fast.”
Max Bitrate - Keep this 500-600kbps below your max upload rate. (Going above 3000kbps may cause issues for viewers who do not have a sufficient Internet connection)
VBV Buffer - The default 1:1 ratio is usually the best (same value for VBV buffer and bitrate).
Resolution - Keep this at its default “Default Mixer Resolution.”
Audio Encoding - 44.100 KHz Stereo with AAC LC as the codec (an audio bitrate around 96,000 is fine)
Automatically Record Broadcast - Only to be enabled if you want XSplit to save recordings of your broadcasts locally.
2. Run location testing (very important before going live)
Change the “Location” from “Default” to which ever is the closest region to where you are broadcasting from.
Select “Test bandwidth” and let the test run
If you’re green, you’re good to go! If not, modify your VBV Bitrate and/or Location until it is.
Getting a red from this test may result in HEAVY LAG. Getting a yellow means things will run smooth overall, but some occasional hiccups might occur.
3. Click “Apply” to save settings.
4. Capture Settings - This is still very general, computers that do not have a powerful enough processor will have issues with these settings.
Ok, here’s where the breakdown occurs. You either want to stream a PC game, or something off of your console. For PC games, most people can just run XSplit’s Screen Region as the main video input or their Game Source technology (which ingests game video right from DirectX or OpenGL).
But for console users (PS3, Xbox 360, Phantom..) or streamophiles (PC Ballers), capture devices are the way to go!
Both the AVerMedia and Hauppauge devices uses USB 2.0, while the BMI Shuttle requires USB 3.0 (and a motherboard which can handle the intense bandwidth).
The way AVerMedia and Hauppauge get away with using USB 2.0, is due to the encoding that goes on within the box to make it fit USB 2.0’s limited bandwidth. And because of this process that feed you receive is delayed.
The BMI Shuttle is the best option for quality and speed, but is limited by its USB 3.0 compatibility. If you are considering a BMI Shuttle, please do the research to make sure that your streaming machine is able to use it!
"Not all USB 3.0 are created equal" - TheGunrun
Some XSplit notes (as of February 1st 2012): The AVerMedia and Hauppauge, in order to be used by xsplit, will have to be screen captured (by xsplit) on your monitor through the software that is included with each device (AVer MediaCenter / ArcSoft TotalMedia Extreme). Only the BMI Shuttle is recognized as a video source by xsplit.
AVerMedia HD-DVR and Hauppauge DV-PVR
Captures Component and Composite
For Console Streamers (and the PC stream who isn’t afraid to play at only 1280x720.. or likes 1080 with interlacing)
Audio through Component/Composite (Red/White cables)
720p at 60fps
Along with 1080i and lower than 720p resolutions
(As of February 1st 2012) Requires to be screencaptured, in order for use with XSplit.
USB 2.0
Will Split Component
Allows you to go component out into a TV to ensure no delay for the player
Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle
Captures HDMI, Component, Composite, S-Video
For Console and PC streamers
Audio through both HDMI and Component/Composite’s RCA (Red/White cables)
1080p at 30fps; 720p at 60fps; (See the full sheet - look for “HD Format Support” for the “Intensity Shuttle USB 3.0”)
USB 3.0 Only
(NOT ALL USB 3.0 PORTS ARE THE SAME; DO YOUR COMPATIBILITY RESEARCH)
Splitter for HDMI
Capture Methods: Internal Devices (PCI Express)
For the broadcaster looking for that ultimate quality or the guy who just wants to keep streaming from affecting gameplay, internal capture cards are the way to go!
All of these devices are recognized by XSplit as a video input source, so no screen capture is needed here.
When choosing a device, here are some notes:
The AVerTV HD DVR [MTVHDDVRR]
Can Capture both HDMI and Component/Composite/S-Video
For Console Streamers (and the PC stream who isn’t afraid to play at only 1280x720.. or likes 1080 with interlacing)
Audio through both HDMI and Component (Red/White cables)
720p at 60fps
Along with 1080i and lower than 720p resolutions
The least expensive
No splitter
If you’re a console streamer who cares about input lag, you may have to purchase a dedicated HDMI or Component Splitter/Amp to feed both into your TV/Capture card
The AVerMedia Game Broadcaster HD
Captures HDMI, Component, and VGA
For Console and PC streamers
Audio through HDMI
It will not take audio through its VGA (comes with an AUX cable for you to use with your PC’s line-in)
1080p, 720p at 60fps (multiple PC resolution options)
No splitter
Hauppauge Colossus
Captures HDMI, Component
For Console Streamers (and the PC stream who isn’t afraid to play at only 1280x720.. or likes 1080 with interlacing)
Audio through both HDMI and Component/Composite’s RCA (Red/White cables)
720p at 60fps
Along with 1080i
Will Split Component
Allows you to go component out into a TV to ensure no delay for the player
Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro HDMI
Captures HDMI, Component, Composite, S-Video
For Console and PC streamers
Audio through both HDMI and Component/Composite’s RCA (Red/White cables)
1080p at 30fps; 720p at 60fps; (See the full sheet - look for “HD Format Support” under for the “Intensity Pro”) Splitter for HDMI
Talk to your audience, don’t just sit there. Call some friends on Skype, promote them to moderators in your chat, and interact with your viewers!
Just tweeting alone about your stream isn’t enough. You have to entertain others, not just yourself.
A few ways people do this is through self commentary (the Artosis method). Vocalize your thoughts as you play, drop some knowledge bombs.
Encourage people to follow you! The following feature on TwitchTV can be really handy to figure out when your favorite streamers go live (email notifications!), give your viewers a nice reminder once in a while. Same can be said about your Twitter and Facebook
Entertain people with your leet skills! Be good at the game. Or make fun of how bad you are. Convey that incredible sense of disappointment as you forget to research ling speed, or when you don’t hold down shift when using Sand King’s ult with the blink dagger.
You’re probably part of a gaming community, frequenting gaming message boards, forums, and subreddits. Make sure you promote yourself and your stream. (without being too spammy!)
Don’t “just stream” a game - set goals and milestones for yourself. If you’re playing a multiplayer game, actively improve a specific part of your gameplay or go for a crazy killstreak. If you’re playing a single player game, a speedrun or 100% completion. Hell, I’d die to watch a Far Cry 2 perma-death run on stream.
Just keeping that frustration in illegitimizes the experience for your viewers, expressing emotion is the best! ^_^
Throw out some shoutouts. Let that cleaver chatter feel at home and validated while watching your stream.
Webcams are always a plus, show off how good your gamer hardware is in the field. Get those facial expressions in there too and really add that emotion. Prove that you’re not in anyway tool assisted
Drama starting to stir up the community? React to it live on stream, and really put yourself out there with that chat! (ADVANCED LEVEL STREAMING ENTERTAINMENT - This is NOT for everyone)
Some Reminders
TwitchTV does not limit any stream’s bandwidth, resolution, or maximum viewers. Both partners and non-partners enjoy the ability of streaming with the highest quality they like
The broadcaster dashboard needs to accessed at least once before xsplit will recognize your TwitchTV username as a channel.
If you’re a moderator on a fast moving chat, it’s best to click on a user’s name just to void accidental bannings.
Typing /help in chat will display all of the chat commands.
Thanks for reading! Hope this was helpful - TheGunrun
This is awesome, I was really thinking about setting up a stream too, thanks GunRun <3
Sorry for stream newbie question, but does this method allow voice chatting via mic, and what if we want to turn on a camera to show our lovely faces to the internet?
Thanks for the information. I have no intention of streaming, but it always warms my heart to see something so comprehensive and extensive as this posted ^^.
some mod move this to tech support, where it belongs. ^^ nice guide, you always hear about the gunrun using remote logins to fix ppls streams right away.
edit: Gunrun is too helpful too the community. Everytime I see him pop up somewhere I only wish I could be as helpful haha. This is really great for people who are completely new to streaming, would have helped me about a year ago so much T_T :D
To give people some "specific" help I've taken screenshots of MY personal settings to help give some benchmarks of what you can do with your stuff. I have a Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W exactly as noted above - however mine is OC'ed to 4.6ghz. For this CPU and streaming I HIGHLY recommend OC'ing if you'd like above high quality - of course BE SAFE when doing this! >.> For whatever reason, the CPU can record any local recording without OC regardless of the game or quality, but needs to be OC'ed greatly to get good streaming results - from my experience, again. I have a GTX 560 OC and for less important information I have 8gigs of ram COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for i5 and i7s and a MSI P67A-G45 motherboard A pretty cheap setup now and days... runs about ~800$/1000 but look below for my results
For my xsplit settings I have them set to this(I'm only using this because my upload at schools is incredibly high, see last screenshot for luls.) Prior to increasing all of xsplits settings I used 7 quality/2900 bitrate and the quality was still incredibly high. As noted above you don't really need the quality turned all the way up, prior to my current setup xsplit would not work properly if it was above 8 quality. >.> + Show Spoiler +
1920x1080 Resolution
And now for some in game results - gameplay shown at 25 seconds. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/kyo7763/b/307737563
Hope this gives some people an idea for very similar setups to mine :D
GunRun you are the man, thank you so much for writing a guide using twitch and xsplit, one was much needed! Thank you for being the hero esports needs, and not the one that we deserve.
On February 07 2012 04:50 Balgrog wrote: GunRun you are the man, thank you so much for writing a guide using twitch and xsplit, one was much needed! Thank you for being the hero esports needs, and not the one that we deserve.
You do realize that there are other guides out...
Nice guide, I do have a bone to pick about the processor section.
On February 07 2012 04:38 l_Kyo_l wrote: edit: Gunrun is too helpful too the community. Everytime I see him pop up somewhere I only wish I could be as helpful haha. This is really great for people who are completely new to streaming, would have helped me about a year ago so much T_T :D
To give people some "specific" help I've taken screenshots of MY personal settings to help give some benchmarks of what you can do with your stuff. I have a Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W exactly as noted above - however mine is OC'ed to 4.6ghz. For this CPU and streaming I HIGHLY recommend OC'ing if you'd like above high quality - of course BE SAFE when doing this! >.> For whatever reason, the CPU can record any local recording without OC regardless of the game or quality, but needs to be OC'ed greatly to get good streaming results - from my experience, again. I have a GTX 560 OC and for less important information I have 8gigs of ram COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for i5 and i7s and a MSI P67A-G45 motherboard A pretty cheap setup now and days... runs about ~800$/1000 but look below for my results
For my xsplit settings I have them set to this(I'm only using this because my upload at schools is incredibly high, see last screenshot for luls.) Prior to increasing all of xsplits settings I used 7 quality/2900 bitrate and the quality was still incredibly high. As noted above you don't really need the quality turned all the way up, prior to my current setup xsplit would not work properly if it was above 8 quality. >.> + Show Spoiler +
1920x1080 Resolution
And now for some in game results - gameplay shown at 25 seconds. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/kyo7763/b/307737563
Hope this gives some people an idea for very similar setups to mine :D
Once i get over my fear of failing in the public eye when it comes to games i'll give streaming a chance haha first to get a computer that won't explode though :p thanks for the tips!
As crazy and blasphemous as it may sound to you Justin, but if you were to recommend laptops within certain price ranges (lets juts use for example 700-1000, 1000-1200, 1200-1500) with the ability to play a game and stream it at the same time (lets use the obvious, Starcraft 2, Dota2, as benchmarks), which ones would you recommend and with which laptop specific hardware.
Hi, im sorry this may be the wrong place to ask, but i currently have an Intel i7 2600. I was wondering what the difference between 2600 and 2600k are? I've looked all over the place but people were saying different things. Is it just as acceptable for streaming as the 2600k?
Fantastic guide, wanted something of the sort since I use Adobe Flash media live encoder atm.
-Micro-ATX Asus Rampage II Gene -Intel 990X (don't ask) -PNY GTX 460SE -6GB RAM
I set my bit rate to 950 because my school caps bandwidth at 3.5GB/2hr - was running 4000 at home, quality took a rather big hit, but whatever you gotta do if you're under bandwidth restrictions. Do the math or get called in TT.
You know it's Gunrun when it starts with "So yeah", it's like his batman sign. Very thorough and insightful guide, I will definitely be bookmarking this and sharing it with others. Now that I know how to set-up my stream properly, I just need a good enough internet connection haha (you said max bitrate 500-600 below max up, that puts me at -100, hmmm...).
On February 07 2012 07:02 Zlasher wrote: As crazy and blasphemous as it may sound to you Justin, but if you were to recommend laptops within certain price ranges (lets juts use for example 700-1000, 1000-1200, 1200-1500) with the ability to play a game and stream it at the same time (lets use the obvious, Starcraft 2, Dota2, as benchmarks), which ones would you recommend and with which laptop specific hardware.
I second this question. Plus, MSI GX720, is that good enough?
On February 07 2012 07:02 Zlasher wrote: As crazy and blasphemous as it may sound to you Justin, but if you were to recommend laptops within certain price ranges (lets juts use for example 700-1000, 1000-1200, 1200-1500) with the ability to play a game and stream it at the same time (lets use the obvious, Starcraft 2, Dota2, as benchmarks), which ones would you recommend and with which laptop specific hardware.
I second this question. Plus, MSI GX720, is that good enough?
Yeah, I have a laptop with
i5-480M 6 GB DDR3 Nvidia Geforce 540M
When the computer was fresh, I used to be able to stream SC2 on all low quality settings, 20 fps, 360/480p but nowadays xsplit logs up so much CPU that my dual-core just can't handle it. I got the laptop for 700 at the time and nowadays it is probably worth 600ish. Ideally I am hoping that there are many other college students that need the mobility of a laptop, but want the option to stream. This could mean finding a laptop with a sandy bridge or i7 quad core CPU and serviceable graphics card to do lower quality streaming (ie: the example I had of 20-25 frames per second at 360/480p HD).
Just want to try to help the poor college students out like myself haha.
On February 07 2012 04:38 l_Kyo_l wrote: edit: Gunrun is too helpful too the community. Everytime I see him pop up somewhere I only wish I could be as helpful haha. This is really great for people who are completely new to streaming, would have helped me about a year ago so much T_T :D
To give people some "specific" help I've taken screenshots of MY personal settings to help give some benchmarks of what you can do with your stuff. I have a Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W exactly as noted above - however mine is OC'ed to 4.6ghz. For this CPU and streaming I HIGHLY recommend OC'ing if you'd like above high quality - of course BE SAFE when doing this! >.> For whatever reason, the CPU can record any local recording without OC regardless of the game or quality, but needs to be OC'ed greatly to get good streaming results - from my experience, again. I have a GTX 560 OC and for less important information I have 8gigs of ram COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for i5 and i7s and a MSI P67A-G45 motherboard A pretty cheap setup now and days... runs about ~800$/1000 but look below for my results
For my xsplit settings I have them set to this(I'm only using this because my upload at schools is incredibly high, see last screenshot for luls.) Prior to increasing all of xsplits settings I used 7 quality/2900 bitrate and the quality was still incredibly high. As noted above you don't really need the quality turned all the way up, prior to my current setup xsplit would not work properly if it was above 8 quality. >.> + Show Spoiler +
1920x1080 Resolution
And now for some in game results - gameplay shown at 25 seconds. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/kyo7763/b/307737563
Hope this gives some people an idea for very similar setups to mine :D
I'd like to throw in a semi-recommendation for an AMD 1090T as a streaming chip. It's not quite an Intel in terms of power, but I have no problem streaming DotA 2 at 1280x800 (16:10) and maintaining 60 FPS.
If you can't afford to go Intel or already have a 1090T/1100T, do not think your chip will forbid you from streaming HD gameplay.
I have a Lenovo T520 with a Intel i7 2720QM Processor, 8GB DDR3 ram, 128gb SSD-disc and Nvidia 4200NVS.
I know that it's a laptop made for work, but when I got it the specs were quite good. I can't even play sc2 on lowest without lag lategame vs zerg and vs toss/terran om some maps It has made me play the game much less then i want to
So only buy a laptop that's made for gaming if u wanna have a nice experience!
I have followed this guide and have got the green light to start streaming, however I still recieve about a second of in game lag when I have xsplit and starcraft running at the same time. Anyone know what is causing this? Feel free to PM me
Thank you Gunrun! I've followed some basic set ups but never gave good results. This is the perfect guide for me to reconfigure Xsplit properly! You're the best :D.
Edit: Just finished tinkering with the settings, and holy cow they're beautiful. I can actually read the text on my stream whenever it goes live , Just wished Canadian internet wasn't so poopy .
I really wish I could stream, but unfortunately my uploads are absolutely terrible. Going 500-600kbps lower than my max uploads leaves me with...100kbps.
Guess if I ever want to do content I'll have to record it and upload it.
YES! YES! A hundred times YES! Thank you for this guide, especially the COMPUTER SPECS for streaming, been wanting to upgrade mine just for that purpose, I cannot thank you enough. Great guide! Awesome stuff.
Nice guide! I tested my bandwidth and I was very happy to receive green! But then I tried to test it again, with a StarCraft 2 replay in the background. Yellow. Hmm, I'm guessing I need to invest in faster internet, not in a better computer (I don't mind streaming the absolute lowest quality anyways).
I feel there should be a section on bandwidth requirements too. How can I tell if (and to which extent) I can stream at with my connection? Any general figures or data tables exists that can be used to tell in what quality I and others can stream at?
nice thread, if anything it's really helped me figure out what to upgrade on my computer. Definitely going to invest in a CPU which I will then need a MOBO to support it and RAM as well. That's the thing about computers, I have to know what CPU I want first before I get the rest so thanks for shedding some light on that.
As far as everything else... I haven't read it all but I plan on bookmarking this thread because skimming your OP there is a TON of info and I'm thankful.
What are your views on DXtory with Xsplit? How come games such as Team Fortress 2 are always laggy or choppy for viewers, no matter how good the PC is? Is GameSource really that useful?
Is it possible to elaborate on things like DXtory and tweaking the VBV buffer in regards to macro blocking and streams freezing? I think those are pretty important unless you cover them in Streaming 102. Cheers.
I had previously set my VBV max bitrate to 1500, with VBV buffer at 375 (I read on the xsplit forums that buffer should be 1/4 of max bitrate???). Anyway, my stream actually turned out okay, with some choppiness every now and then. But when I got a bunch of viewers at once, some of them said there was a lot of lag (could have had to do with Ultra SC2 settings, which I reduced to High).
Anyway, I followed thegunrun's advice and did Test Bandwidth, but I got a RED for every max bitrate above 300. I have watched my VODs on Twitch, and didn't notice too much lag.
I have audio encoding at 22.050 KHz 16 bit stereo with 48000 bitrate.
My upload is around 3.00Mbps.
I have the Intel Core i5-2500K, and high end mobo/graphics card/RAM/power supply, etc.
My main question: Why do I keep getting REDs for bandwidth, even though I am setting bitrate well below 2000kbps???
What is with this hdmi crap? I have never used it in my life and I don't know anyone who has. What is wrong with capture cards capturing the good old yellow/red/white cables?
Thank you so much GunRun - got my stream up and running for the first time today after being inspired by your advice. I first streamed Diablo 3 but I hope to get some SC2 up here soon. ^^
I've streamed consistently for the past year or more...but just recently I've noticed that when I change my audio output (Playback Device) it will only use my motherboard built-in audio. Even if its disabled. It only changed just this week. I used to be able to change audio devices, restart Xsplit, and it would use the new audio device...but no longer.
Any ideas??? I've gone as far as reinstalling my sound card drivers, but with no luck
This is a great guide thanks!! I just made a new PC with hardware like you mentioned and am interested in Streaming. My internet might be a bit of a roadblock tho... But thanks to Kyo I will also look into OCing my 2500K to get better results.
Gunrun, I'd like to thank you so much for the hard work you put into helping the community and major events stream well. If we didn't have people like you who knew how to handle our broadcasting medium intricately, who knows where we'd be.
Thank you! You deserve more recognition than you get!
Periodically, it seems that my stream goes offline on twitch.tv. However on XSplit it says it's still streaming/live/encoding frames/etc. I have to restart the stream to fix this problem. It usually happens during my first few minutes of streaming.
I'd really appreciate your time looking into and answering this question. Thanks so much!
I feel like I'm out of the loop on one factor. xsplit is currently free but constantly advertises that it won't be for long, asking people to pay for it ahead of time for "cheap". What's the deal here? I've been seeing it for about a year now since my first time playing with streaming.
You're amazing Gunrun, really helpful thread! <3 and just a note about the overclocking part of this Kyo, some older games are allergic to overclocked components(and crossfire gpu) ;p just a thought for people before they do try overclocking.+ Show Spoiler +
[QUOTE]On February 07 2012 04:38 l_Kyo_l wrote: edit: Gunrun is too helpful too the community. Everytime I see him pop up somewhere I only wish I could be as helpful haha. This is really great for people who are completely new to streaming, would have helped me about a year ago so much T_T :D
To give people some "specific" help I've taken screenshots of MY personal settings to help give some benchmarks of what you can do with your stuff. I have a Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W exactly as noted above - however mine is OC'ed to 4.6ghz. For this CPU and streaming I HIGHLY recommend OC'ing if you'd like above high quality - of course BE SAFE when doing this! >.> For whatever reason, the CPU can record any local recording without OC regardless of the game or quality, but needs to be OC'ed greatly to get good streaming results - from my experience, again. I have a GTX 560 OC and for less important information I have 8gigs of ram COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for i5 and i7s and a MSI P67A-G45 motherboard A pretty cheap setup now and days... runs about ~800$/1000 but look below for my results
For my xsplit settings I have them set to this(I'm only using this because my upload at schools is incredibly high, see last screenshot for luls.) Prior to increasing all of xsplits settings I used 7 quality/2900 bitrate and the quality was still incredibly high. As noted above you don't really need the quality turned all the way up, prior to my current setup xsplit would not work properly if it was above 8 quality. >.> + Show Spoiler +
Please also include all the AMD Phenom II X6 and FX-8XXX processors in the CPU list. I have an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (@2.8GHz) and I can stream 720P flawlessly in SC2 and BF3.
You also might consider a bit about DXtory as it requires less from the computer and you can stream all games with it. Screen region can't. It will only stream (borderless) windowed mode.
On February 07 2012 17:27 snowbird wrote: Thanks for this guide, will try it out when I'm at home, always wanted to try streaming some random stuff just for fun.
Wonder if my Phenom II X4 3.5Ghz will be able to handle a 720p stream? (Rest of specs 8GB 1333Mhz RAM, GTX460, 100/100Mbit line)
On February 07 2012 18:05 Noop wrote: Stream for friends occasionally but have low upload speed, very helpful in finding the problem. Much appreciated.
On February 07 2012 17:27 snowbird wrote: Thanks for this guide, will try it out when I'm at home, always wanted to try streaming some random stuff just for fun.
Wonder if my Phenom II X4 3.5Ghz will be able to handle a 720p stream? (Rest of specs 8GB 1333Mhz RAM, GTX460, 100/100Mbit line)
Yes.
I do not concur.
I had a friend who had a X4. but was not able to stream at 720P. This is due to the amount of threats I guess. The overclock will help the get you above 480P, but I dont think he'll be able to stream at 720P
You've skipped out mentioning DXtory. It's a bit complicated, but it's a sick piece of software and does everything XSplit's Game Source feature does but better. Any chance you could add that? It's like $40 to buy, well worth it if you want to stream well. LIke 95% as good as a capture card.
It would have helped more people if you had explained how the different settings (preset, bitrate, fps, resolution, quality, buffer) impact on the CPU, upload rate and quality of the stream. I only have 1mb upload and a 3ghz quadcore and by chooosing a good combination of preset, quality and resolution I drastically improved the quality of my stream. You gave random value for each setting and information on devices that nobody uses (almost nobody probably). This helps a small percentage of streamers in my opinion.
Great post thanks! What's your opinion on going below 30 fps (for SC2 streaming)? Personally I have 900kbp/s upload and I've found going down to 19 or 20 fps allows me to get a decent picture quality with limited bandwidth. The low fps becomes much more noticable at 15 though.
Changing the preset speed as mentioned to something a bit slower than the default is definitely also worth exploring if you have a decent PC and limited bandwidth.
On February 07 2012 17:25 Guussieboy wrote: Please also include all the AMD Phenom II X6 and FX-8XXX processors in the CPU list. I have an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (@2.8GHz) and I can stream 720P flawlessly in SC2 and BF3.
You also might consider a bit about DXtory as it requires less from the computer and you can stream all games with it. Screen region can't. It will only stream (borderless) windowed mode.
On February 07 2012 17:25 Guussieboy wrote: Please also include all the AMD Phenom II X6 and FX-8XXX processors in the CPU list. I have an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (@2.8GHz) and I can stream 720P flawlessly in SC2 and BF3.
You also might consider a bit about DXtory as it requires less from the computer and you can stream all games with it. Screen region can't. It will only stream (borderless) windowed mode.
Except there's no reason to recommend a 1055T when a 2500K is at about the same price point or cheaper and wrecks it in performance.
The AMD X6 and FX-8XXX series is always cheaper (in the netherlands), but indeed an 2500K is faster and I would recommend a 2500K now, but he should note though that these are also useable to stream, so people wont have to buy a whole new PC when they want to stream...
Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.
i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...
Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?
have to keep it 500kbps below your max... well my max is like 214kbps so... i'm screwed. To bad i have all the recommended stuff too Damn living out in the country!
Awesome guide! Thanks Gunrun I'm and up and coming Starcraft II Commentator and have been figuring things out on my own but it's great to see a guide set up! This will help me fix any issues and be really helpful for anyone trying to start streaming :D
On February 08 2012 00:23 Nausea wrote: Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.
i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...
Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?
And this is my test on speedtest.net
Holy shit at that speedtest. I need to move to Sweden T_T
On February 08 2012 00:23 Nausea wrote: Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.
i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...
Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?
And this is my test on speedtest.net
Holy shit at that speedtest. I need to move to Sweden T_T
Are you at a university or something?
Hehe nope this is my connection at home, and i live in a pretty bad hood. Can get at least 100/100 if I wanted
On February 08 2012 00:23 Nausea wrote: Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.
i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...
Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?
And this is my test on speedtest.net
Holy shit at that speedtest. I need to move to Sweden T_T
Are you at a university or something?
Hehe nope this is my connection at home, and i live in a pretty bad hood. Can get at least 100/100 if I wanted
Holy mother of god .... Here i got max 20KBS up and 400down - Sh1t brazilian internet!!
On February 08 2012 00:23 Nausea wrote: Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.
i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...
Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?
On February 07 2012 06:05 Kismet349 wrote: I caught Gunrun sleeping once. It was about 3 weeks ago at 7:17 AM on Saturday. He wasn't responding to Skype.
I did lots of checks to make sure that I was in fact experiencing reality.
-Eleine from TwitchTV
ahahhahha - gunrun forgot to mention 5 hour energy in the walkthrough
great writeup mr ignacio - this will forever be my go to link when i get questions prefixed by "how do i..."
well gunrun should support and stay on top of this thread more often. i really feel sad for hellgreen whos is the best human among of the mankind without any real benefit. Just a thread and dissapearing is not enough for me.
Tried it out at home, everything was easy enough to setup thanks to Gunrun's awesome guide ,) The Phenom II X4 3.5Ghz could handle the 720p well enough I think (was only trying to stream League of Legends though).
I have a few questions though. I just set the bitrate to 1337 like Gunrun did on the screenshot and the speedtest went through fine. Would higher be better? I have 100mbit upload so my connection could handle higher I guess, but is that needed? Is it more taxing for the processor? How exactly does the bitrate influence the quality of the stream?
Also I noticed a strange flickering when I was streaming League of Legends fullscreen. That went away went I used full screen windowed mode, but then I wasn't able to alt-tab properly because the game would always stay on top, so I just saw the task bar but couldn't actually see any windows. Can I somehow use fullscreen and get rid of the flicker? (Using a GTX460 with latest drivers)
On February 08 2012 00:23 Nausea wrote: Tried this guide, got no problems with the streaming on my part but i asked some friends to try and watch it and they got video lag. Very strange since they got 100mbit download and I got 10mbit upload. I get a green light from the speedtest to the server, so I do not understand why the video stops from time to time while the sound keeps going. I also have no fps drops on my computer or anything of that sort.
i5 2500k, 8gb ram etc etc...
Any ideas? Tried all the way from 1300kbps to 2000kbps and none of them should cause this lag, right?
And this is my test on speedtest.net
Pfffff.... who needs Sweden. I'll stay right here.
Gunrun..... you are the god of all things stream. We thank you!
GunRun, A while ago (even now perhaps) I was given the advice that you should have your buffer = 1/4 of your max birate (2000 bitrate, 500 buffer). However here, your amazing guide says it should be 1:1 ratio (2000 bitrate, 2000 buffer).
Why is that?
Like, any hard numbers/proof/theory on why 1:1 bitrate/buffer is better then 4:1 ratio?
On February 08 2012 12:49 MiyaviTeddy wrote: GunRun, A while ago (even now perhaps) I was given the advice that you should have your buffer = 1/4 of your max birate (2000 bitrate, 500 buffer). However here, your amazing guide says it should be 1:1 ratio (2000 bitrate, 2000 buffer).
Why is that?
Like, any hard numbers/proof/theory on why 1:1 bitrate/buffer is better then 4:1 ratio?
No no no, read the Xsplit official FAQ. It says either 1x or 2x your bitrate, 2x bitrate is recommended.
On February 07 2012 03:55 TheGunrun wrote: Max Bitrate - Keep this 500-600kbps below your max upload rate. (Going above 3000kbps may cause issues for viewers who do not have a sufficient Internet connection)
you know its bad when your upload rate is 400kbps and if you goo 500 under you stream at -100 T_T
On February 08 2012 06:31 saynomore wrote: Is a AMD 3.1 Ghz tripple core good enough to stream?
You will get ingame lag with that CPU. For those who own AMD processors, such as myself, it is highly recommended that you should go for at LEAST a AMD Phenom X II 955. I have a Phenom II X6 1100T (OCd and watercooled) and it does the job pretty damn well. Intel i5 or i7s are a lot better, though, and if you have the cash, go for the upgrade.
I am not sure if audio os covered. But for some reason it seems whenever I stream. I always get a sort of echo on the audio on the stream, or almost if it sounds like its coming from a outside source other than the computer, even with my mic off.
Just used this to get a stream up for getting coached; was really handy. Did have a problem where my mic was the only audio hitting the stream. The stream wasn't getting game sounds or the coach's voice.. Anyways thanks Gunrun!
"if you have a very powerful CPU (inluding the recommended ones) you can try “faster” or “fast.”"
this refers to x264 encoding presets. Actually fast and faster require less performance then default, normal, slow, slower and so on. As slower you set it up to ultraslow the more performance you require.
If I got the Hauppauge Colossus would I still need a blazing CPU to stream, or would Hauppauge Colossus handle most of the heavy lifting? I have priced out the upgrades necessary and a full upgrade is not in the budget(mother board needs to be replaced for a more up to date CPU), so that is not an option. Also, will I need to split my output to my steam and the card as well? If I am going to order one, I want to order all the necessary cables and adaptors as well.
On February 09 2012 23:10 flyersa wrote: nice overview, however this is wrong:
"if you have a very powerful CPU (inluding the recommended ones) you can try “faster” or “fast.”"
this refers to x264 encoding presets. Actually fast and faster require less performance then default, normal, slow, slower and so on. As slower you set it up to ultraslow the more performance you require.
Default requires less performance than fast and faster since it's more or less equivalent to veryfast.
And by the way, even if your computer is half as powerful as the cpus mentioned you should try faster and fast.
On February 10 2012 02:31 Plansix wrote: Simple question:
If I got the Hauppauge Colossus would I still need a blazing CPU to stream, or would Hauppauge Colossus handle most of the heavy lifting? I have priced out the upgrades necessary and a full upgrade is not in the budget(mother board needs to be replaced for a more up to date CPU), so that is not an option. Also, will I need to split my output to my steam and the card as well? If I am going to order one, I want to order all the necessary cables and adaptors as well.
I don't think xsplit can directly stream another h264 source (someone correct me if wrong), that is, without encoding again, so it would be a waste over buying a cheaper raw capture card.
On February 10 2012 02:31 Plansix wrote: Simple question:
If I got the Hauppauge Colossus would I still need a blazing CPU to stream, or would Hauppauge Colossus handle most of the heavy lifting? I have priced out the upgrades necessary and a full upgrade is not in the budget(mother board needs to be replaced for a more up to date CPU), so that is not an option. Also, will I need to split my output to my steam and the card as well? If I am going to order one, I want to order all the necessary cables and adaptors as well.
I don't think xsplit can directly stream another h264 source (someone correct me if wrong), that is, without encoding again, so it would be a waste over buying a cheaper raw capture card.
The prices of any of the cards is not a huge issue. My real question is will the card handle the streaming aspect without further(or minimal) burden on my CPU. I will buy whatever card does the job, but I want one that works with Xsplit without to much trouble.
Are there any guides out there on how to set up the Blackmagic Design Intensity pro for PC streaming? I'm wondering specifically on how the connections to it work. Do you connect an HDMI splitter to your video card and send one to your video card and the other to the Blackmagic PCI card? How do you stream sound if your video card is only set up to do video?
On February 10 2012 12:46 Arch00 wrote: Are there any guides out there on how to set up the Blackmagic Design Intensity pro for PC streaming? I'm wondering specifically on how the connections to it work. Do you connect an HDMI splitter to your video card and send one to your video card and the other to the Blackmagic PCI card? How do you stream sound if your video card is only set up to do video?
Thanks
The best setup is cloning your output and attaching the BMI as a 2nd monitor to your video card. This way you don't have to worry about HDMI splitters and such. BMI can do audio over HDMI, or you can just get a stereo splitter for your speakers/headphones and send that into the line in (sync will be off by a some mostly unnoticeable amount of milliseconds with this method).
On February 10 2012 12:46 Arch00 wrote: Are there any guides out there on how to set up the Blackmagic Design Intensity pro for PC streaming? I'm wondering specifically on how the connections to it work. Do you connect an HDMI splitter to your video card and send one to your video card and the other to the Blackmagic PCI card? How do you stream sound if your video card is only set up to do video?
Thanks
The best setup is cloning your output and attaching the BMI as a 2nd monitor to your video card. This way you don't have to worry about HDMI splitters and such. BMI can do audio over HDMI, or you can just get a stereo splitter for your speakers/headphones and send that into the line in (sync will be off by a some mostly unnoticeable amount of milliseconds with this method).
Rich,
And Xsplit will see the BMI as a video source and stream the output to Twitch(or whatever sevice someone is using) with minimal impact the machine as a whole(in theory)? I am preparing to order a capture card and do want to spend $100-$200 and I want to make sure it is going to do what I expect.
Hey guys, when I start streaming with Xsplit, I can play the game fine. However, my friend says they see my games in almost pick blackness. They can hear the sounds but not see well. How can I fix that?
Quick question: What is the recommended setup for 1080p? I've just gotten an industrial FiOS connection (100/100) and I wanna go full HD on my stream, but don't know how to tweak the settings properly so I won't give my fans or viewers any trouble when watching the stream 'cause they might not have enough DL bandwidth. Any help?
On February 15 2012 23:18 UmbraaeternuS wrote: Quick question: What is the recommended setup for 1080p? I've just gotten an industrial FiOS connection (100/100) and I wanna go full HD on my stream, but don't know how to tweak the settings properly so I won't give my fans or viewers any trouble when watching the stream 'cause they might not have enough DL bandwidth. Any help?
1080p comfortably would require at least a i5 2500 or even better a i5 2500k, a 2600 or 2600k would help alot more with hyperthreading. 3-5mbps is the usual bitrate for 1080p content. Depending on your viewers they would need that much to view your stream, unless you were partnered.
On February 14 2012 06:45 SpearWrit wrote: To reiterate, is there a suggestion list for AMD Processors for streaming?
EDIT: Browsing the thread, I'm coming up with anything better than or equal to AMD Phenom II X6 1100T?
a 1100t @ 4ghz can stream decent 720/1080 depending on settings
On February 15 2012 07:41 Chaves wrote: just a question, how i let my view set what resolution he wanna watch, like 240, 360, 480 and so on ...
you have to be partnered or request this option from twitchtv/own3d.
On February 10 2012 12:46 Arch00 wrote: Are there any guides out there on how to set up the Blackmagic Design Intensity pro for PC streaming? I'm wondering specifically on how the connections to it work. Do you connect an HDMI splitter to your video card and send one to your video card and the other to the Blackmagic PCI card? How do you stream sound if your video card is only set up to do video?
Thanks
The best setup is cloning your output and attaching the BMI as a 2nd monitor to your video card. This way you don't have to worry about HDMI splitters and such. BMI can do audio over HDMI, or you can just get a stereo splitter for your speakers/headphones and send that into the line in (sync will be off by a some mostly unnoticeable amount of milliseconds with this method).
I second this. I use a AverMedia Game Broadcaster HD to do the same job... the only difference is that I route my audio through a mixer to give me ultimate control over Game Volume / Skype 1 / Music / Skype 2 etc. With a 2 PC setup you can really push the limits.
DJ Wheat for the ppl asking about adjustable bitrates for viewers, would you please explain to the ppls on how to do this, or is it exclusively for partners?
DJ Wheat for the ppl asking about adjustable bitrates for viewers, would you please explain to the ppls on how to do this, or is it exclusively for partners?
Sure. Adjustable bitrates (or transcodes) are limited to partners at this time. The reason being is each transcode requires dedicated resources on our servers. Which means that someone who has 20 viewers uses as much of said transcoding resources as the streamer with 15,000. Because of this we've limited this feature to the partner program.
You can find information about the partner program at http://twitch.tv/p/partners - if you click "apply today" you'll see the requirements.
Is there a "rough standard" for bitrate of a 720p stream? My upload averages 3.5 Mbps but for some reason I can't pass the bandwidth test on anything above around 1500kbps bitrate, and I'm just wondering what the typical benchmark for a 720p stream is (perhaps I'm overdoing it, or my connection just fails)?
Also, there's no mention of this that I can find, but what is "Interleave audio and video in one RTMP channel"?
On February 17 2012 00:14 LatsyrC wrote: This is a nice guide, but i dont agree with the INTEL PROMO that u do here
It's completely valid. Intel is better (proven through benchmarks) at almost every pricepoint.
It's not fanboy-ism, it's logic
Hardly. At Newegg the FX-8120 is against the i5-2500 which does well around $200, but the match for the FX-6100 is the i3-2100 dual-core at $150.
To stream at all at that point you actually need the AMD. But I gather the guide is geared towards who wants to go all out HD streaming without much concern to cost.
On February 17 2012 00:33 PleasureImWallace wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:14 LatsyrC wrote: This is a nice guide, but i dont agree with the INTEL PROMO that u do here
It's completely valid. Intel is better (proven through benchmarks) at almost every pricepoint.
It's not fanboy-ism, it's logic
Hardly. At Newegg the FX-8120 is against the i5-2500 which does well around $200, but the match for the FX-6100 is the i3-2100 dual-core at $150.
To stream at all at that point you actually need the AMD. But I gather the guide is geared towards who wants to go all out HD streaming without much concern to cost.
your so wrong. the fx8120 sucks compared to the 2500, but is suitable for streaming i guess. The fx 6100 performs worse than the phenom chips, the i3 2100 beats it in almost everything. But yes phenoms II x4 if overclocked high enough will be able to achieve decent 720p, and possibly 1080 with 6+ cores. But for the extra $20 that the 2500k costs there is no reason to get bulldozer for streaming purposes.
On February 17 2012 00:33 PleasureImWallace wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:14 LatsyrC wrote: This is a nice guide, but i dont agree with the INTEL PROMO that u do here
It's completely valid. Intel is better (proven through benchmarks) at almost every pricepoint.
It's not fanboy-ism, it's logic
Hardly. At Newegg the FX-8120 is against the i5-2500 which does well around $200, but the match for the FX-6100 is the i3-2100 dual-core at $150.
To stream at all at that point you actually need the AMD. But I gather the guide is geared towards who wants to go all out HD streaming without much concern to cost.
your so wrong. the fx8120 sucks compared to the 2500, but is suitable for streaming i guess. The fx 6100 performs worse than the phenom chips, the i3 2100 beats it in almost everything. But yes phenoms II x4 if overclocked high enough will be able to achieve decent 720p, and possibly 1080 with 6+ cores. But for the extra $20 that the 2500k costs there is no reason to get bulldozer for streaming purposes.
What the hell are you talking about, I said the i5-2500 is better and dual-cores are not suitable to stream.
On May 08 2011 11:23 R1CH wrote: First, if you have anything less than a quad core processor, you may as well forget about streaming in any kind of decent quality for now. SC2 itself can easily almost max out a dual core CPU, leaving no room for streaming.
On February 16 2012 06:36 Boblhead wrote: 1080p comfortably would require at least a i5 2500 or even better a i5 2500k, a 2600 or 2600k would help alot more with hyperthreading. 3-5mbps is the usual bitrate for 1080p content. Depending on your viewers they would need that much to view your stream, unless you were partnered.
CPU is no issue, I own an i7 2600k @3.8Ghz, and bandwidth is so not an issue (FiOS 100/100) Any help with tweaking the stream settings in XSplit, anyone? And sadly no, I'm not partnered yet, I'm just putting some content up seriously so I still don't have more than 200-300 recurrent viewers per session/30.000 viewers per month... So that's why I want to deliver something viewable. TY!
On February 17 2012 22:22 Shadow_Dog wrote: Any1 want to reccomend me streaming settings with this? Or should I not even bother. Few years ago I streamed console games with okay quality.
I dont think its possible to get good working stream with that slow upload speed. Its either unwatchable or if you increase quality you are not able to play properly becouse of lag.
On February 17 2012 22:22 Shadow_Dog wrote: Any1 want to reccomend me streaming settings with this? Or should I not even bother. Few years ago I streamed console games with okay quality.
Well speedtest says that my upload is ~0.75mbits, when I log onto my router it says ~0.8 -0.9. I stream using 8 quality, 500kbps Bitrate video, and 44.100 KHz 16 bit stereo 64000 bitrate audio.
There are a few people here who have had issues streaming at good quality even though they have sufficient bandwidth. My speedtests show me consistently at 10-11 Mbps and I get lag at anything over 500kbps.
My CPU is AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
Am I missing something because I used to have a worse processor and was able to stream at my old house, with a worse connection.
On February 19 2012 13:08 Bijan wrote: There are a few people here who have had issues streaming at good quality even though they have sufficient bandwidth. My speedtests show me consistently at 10-11 Mbps and I get lag at anything over 500kbps.
My CPU is AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
Am I missing something because I used to have a worse processor and was able to stream at my old house, with a worse connection.
Thanks for any help, I really appreciate it.
simply your connection isnt stable to whatever server your trying to stream to, Test your connection to the streaming servers using xsplits bandwidth tester, if you don;t want to use that one use R1CH's bandwidth/latency check.
On February 19 2012 13:08 Bijan wrote: There are a few people here who have had issues streaming at good quality even though they have sufficient bandwidth. My speedtests show me consistently at 10-11 Mbps and I get lag at anything over 500kbps.
My CPU is AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
Am I missing something because I used to have a worse processor and was able to stream at my old house, with a worse connection.
Thanks for any help, I really appreciate it.
simply your connection isnt stable to whatever server your trying to stream to, Test your connection to the streaming servers using xsplits bandwidth tester, if you don;t want to use that one use R1CH's bandwidth/latency check.
The xsplit tester always has me failing. I wish I could just pinpoint exactly what is bottlenecking the speed. Since I pay extra for a business account with my ISP and the speedtests always show me solidly, I can't understand what the problem is. Also, where is R1CH's latency check, I would like to try that.
Thanks for the help.
Edit: Fixed the problem! This should help a decent amount of people if they are experiencing the same problem. If you are on the east coast of the united states your default twitch server is New York, which gets a lot of traffic and is slow as all hell for some reason. At first, I had tried switching locations to NY not realizing it was the default server, so when I switched the Location to East Coast Secondary I was streaming at full blast with no problems.
Thanks to everyone in this thread and TheGunRun of course for helping me out in some way or another.
And now, seeing as its 4am and there's no GSL tonight, I'm going to pass out.
Any thoughts on the soon to come Ivy Bridge CPUs? Specifically: I wonder if the quad core Core i7-3770T (2,5 GHz; 3,7 with turbo; the IGP is the HD 4000) would be capable of streaming 1920x1080 SC 2 (everything set on low) ... Or would it have to be the Core i7-3770S (3,1/3,9 GHz) or even the Core i7-3770K (3,5/3,9 GHz)? Also: would the HD 4000 be sufficient when it comes to graphics or not?
On February 20 2012 22:52 IPS.Blue wrote: Any thoughts on the soon to come Ivy Bridge CPUs? Specifically: I wonder if the quad core Core i7-3770T (2,5 GHz; 3,7 with turbo; the IGP is the HD 4000) would be capable of streaming 1920x1080 SC 2 (everything set on low) ... Or would it have to be the Core i7-3770S (3,1/3,9 GHz) or even the Core i7-3770K (3,5/3,9 GHz)? Also: would the HD 4000 be sufficient when it comes to graphics or not?
I'm not sure why you would get an ivy bridge processor and then get a shitty graphics card in all honesty. It *might* run low, but I'm not even sure about that. I'd just go with like a 6770 at the very least if you can't afford a 6870 or can't wait for the 7xxx cards...
On February 20 2012 22:52 IPS.Blue wrote: Any thoughts on the soon to come Ivy Bridge CPUs? Specifically: I wonder if the quad core Core i7-3770T (2,5 GHz; 3,7 with turbo; the IGP is the HD 4000) would be capable of streaming 1920x1080 SC 2 (everything set on low) ... Or would it have to be the Core i7-3770S (3,1/3,9 GHz) or even the Core i7-3770K (3,5/3,9 GHz)? Also: would the HD 4000 be sufficient when it comes to graphics or not?
I'm not sure why you would get an ivy bridge processor and then get a shitty graphics card in all honesty.
No extra graphic card would allow for a smaller pc case, less heat development, less wattage ...
Is there any way to stream without having SC2 set to Windowsmode (fullscreen)? And what would my recommended settings be? I play SC2 in 1920x1080 with 200 fps. CPU: intel i5 760 @ 3.6ghz GPU: geforce gtx 460 oc @ 800mhz Upload: 1 mb/s
On February 28 2012 11:01 cellblock wrote: Is there any way to stream without having SC2 set to Windowsmode (fullscreen)? And what would my recommended settings be? I play SC2 in 1920x1080 with 200 fps. CPU: intel i5 760 @ 3.6ghz GPU: geforce gtx 460 oc @ 800mhz Upload: 1 mb/s
Ty
You can switch to FMLE... Or you can play in windowed, other than that, no.
I've thought about trying to stream, just for shits and giggles, and I think my computer can handle it. HOWEVER, my internet is more shit than what comes out of a goat's rear end. i5 2500 GTX 560 Ti 8GB RAM Windows 7 64bit
and without further ado, the internet so bad, that 96% of Norway has better:
I've been told by a little birdie that I CAN in fact stream with this, but that the quality would be very, very(very) shitty. How shitty are we talking, like 240p?
On February 28 2012 11:01 cellblock wrote: Is there any way to stream without having SC2 set to Windowsmode (fullscreen)? And what would my recommended settings be? I play SC2 in 1920x1080 with 200 fps. CPU: intel i5 760 @ 3.6ghz GPU: geforce gtx 460 oc @ 800mhz Upload: 1 mb/s
Ty
You can switch to FMLE... Or you can play in windowed, other than that, no.
Im using FMLE already, but I still had to use windowed mode which gives me worse performance. When I tried fullscreen it was just black, could only see the SC2 cursor.
On February 28 2012 11:12 Aocowns wrote: I've thought about trying to stream, just for shits and giggles, and I think my computer can handle it. HOWEVER, my internet is more shit than what comes out of a goat's rear end. i5 2500 GTX 560 Ti 8GB RAM Windows 7 64bit
and without further ado, the internet so bad, that 96% of Norway has better:
I've been told by a little birdie that I CAN in fact stream with this, but that the quality would be very, very(very) shitty. How shitty are we talking, like 240p?
On February 17 2012 22:22 Shadow_Dog wrote: Any1 want to reccomend me streaming settings with this? Or should I not even bother. Few years ago I streamed console games with okay quality.
Well speedtest says that my upload is ~0.75mbits, when I log onto my router it says ~0.8 -0.9. I stream using 8 quality, 500kbps Bitrate video, and 44.100 KHz 16 bit stereo 64000 bitrate audio.
On February 28 2012 11:12 Aocowns wrote: I've thought about trying to stream, just for shits and giggles, and I think my computer can handle it. HOWEVER, my internet is more shit than what comes out of a goat's rear end. i5 2500 GTX 560 Ti 8GB RAM Windows 7 64bit
and without further ado, the internet so bad, that 96% of Norway has better:
I've been told by a little birdie that I CAN in fact stream with this, but that the quality would be very, very(very) shitty. How shitty are we talking, like 240p?
How are you even playing the game online??!?!?!
sc2 actually takes extremely little bandwith. It's the ping that actually matters.
On February 28 2012 11:01 cellblock wrote: Is there any way to stream without having SC2 set to Windowsmode (fullscreen)? And what would my recommended settings be? I play SC2 in 1920x1080 with 200 fps. CPU: intel i5 760 @ 3.6ghz GPU: geforce gtx 460 oc @ 800mhz Upload: 1 mb/s
Ty
You can switch to FMLE... Or you can play in windowed, other than that, no.
Im using FMLE already, but I still had to use windowed mode which gives me worse performance. When I tried fullscreen it was just black, could only see the SC2 cursor.
Thats an odd problem that i've never actually heard of.. Weird. ok, guess you could try dxtory?
On February 28 2012 11:12 Aocowns wrote: I've thought about trying to stream, just for shits and giggles, and I think my computer can handle it. HOWEVER, my internet is more shit than what comes out of a goat's rear end. i5 2500 GTX 560 Ti 8GB RAM Windows 7 64bit
and without further ado, the internet so bad, that 96% of Norway has better:
I've been told by a little birdie that I CAN in fact stream with this, but that the quality would be very, very(very) shitty. How shitty are we talking, like 240p?
On February 17 2012 22:22 Shadow_Dog wrote: Any1 want to reccomend me streaming settings with this? Or should I not even bother. Few years ago I streamed console games with okay quality.
Well speedtest says that my upload is ~0.75mbits, when I log onto my router it says ~0.8 -0.9. I stream using 8 quality, 500kbps Bitrate video, and 44.100 KHz 16 bit stereo 64000 bitrate audio.
-friends complain sometimes about lag and i think i have enough for better quality and should i stream in other resolution , like standard HD (1280x720 - 16: 9) or lower? (know streaming @ 1280x800 - 8:5)
-friends complain sometimes about lag and i think i have enough for better quality and should i stream in other resolution , like standard HD (1280x720 - 16: 9) or lower? (know streaming @ 1280x800 - 8:5)
sorry for long post , hope you can help me
Your CPU isn't able of streaming in 720p quality @2.66ghz.
Either buying a new cpu, or going down in resolution.
-friends complain sometimes about lag and i think i have enough for better quality and should i stream in other resolution , like standard HD (1280x720 - 16: 9) or lower? (know streaming @ 1280x800 - 8:5)
sorry for long post , hope you can help me
Your CPU isn't able of streaming in 720p quality @2.66ghz.
Either buying a new cpu, or going down in resolution.
Able to stream and play at the highest possible quality but anything over 400k and I start to get extreme lag, with this low of bandwidth however the screen is just choppy.
I am in central canada, any suggestions?
*edit* Upon further inspection my provider only allows 512k upload, would switching to another plan with 2.5mb upload make a significant difference?
-friends complain sometimes about lag and i think i have enough for better quality and should i stream in other resolution , like standard HD (1280x720 - 16: 9) or lower? (know streaming @ 1280x800 - 8:5)
sorry for long post , hope you can help me
Your CPU isn't able of streaming in 720p quality @2.66ghz.
Either buying a new cpu, or going down in resolution.
I've got the same CPU and it can stream @ 720p @ 2.66
Now, I want to be able to stream while maintaining a high FPS at ultra quality. I take it that I'm going to need a capture card to do this? If so, which one should I get? I see that there are a lot of choices, but I have no clue how to go about installing it (cables I need etc.).
Now, I want to be able to stream while maintaining a high FPS at ultra quality. I take it that I'm going to need a capture card to do this? If so, which one should I get? I see that there are a lot of choices, but I have no clue how to go about installing it (cables I need etc.).
Thanks.
No capture card needed, you can stream 1080p with that setup.
I was messing around with streaming for the first time yesterday for fun. Was streaming mass effect 3 for a friend, but ran into a sound problem. Gunshots and sound effects sound absolutely fine. However, when it comes to voices, during the dialogue scenes, it would be really low and my friend could barely hear even if he maxed the volume on his speakers. Sound is fine for me throughout the game though.
Anyone know what could be causing voices to be broadcasting low, when the gun sound effects etc are absolutely fine? Also to note, voices during fighting like when the bad guys scream at you sound fine too. The low voice problem only occurs when it goes to cutscene mode for dialogue scenes.
I've tried a local recording as well and same low voices problem occurs there as well.
I'm having problems with my frames per second, when I'm not running xsplit I'm always at a around 250 FPS at 1680x1050 on low texture and graphics settings. But as soon as I open xsplit and try to start broadcasting and even when xsplit is idling and doing nothing I always drop to less than 30 FPS.
Can anybody help me with a possible fix or what might be causing my fps to drop so drastically?
My computer specifications are:
CPU AMD Phenom II x4 995 3.2 GHz 4GB 1333 MHz DDR3 memory AMD HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 with Engine Clock - 900MHz and Memory Clock - 1050MHz (4.2Gbps)
Been trying to stream dota2 and league of legend with this setup and league streams fine, but dota 2 has issue with constant jittering.
Setup i7-970 @ 4.2 6GB of Gskill Pi 470 GTX
internet setting
My current stream setting are Resolution:1920x1200 Quality:10 Audio Bitrate: 128kbps FPS:25 Buffer/VBV: 3500/7000 I'm thinking i might need to change to 1280x800 or something for resolution? i can't do 1280x720 i get green bars since i run on 16:10 instead of 16
I set my bitrate to 3000 kbps, but when I start the stream the bitrate is between 100-300 kbps. Is my computer to slow? I have Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz, 6GB ram.
It looks pretty good right and runs fine, but I can feel that its not as smooth ingame. IIts not unplayable but I can just feel it. When I do the bandwith test it always gives yellow, even when i lower the settings dramatically.
I dont get it, how do I get rid of the ingame lag that I notice?
I'm really wanting to stream, but for some reason my fps in game drops to almost unplayable. I know running at a lesser resolution would work, but for some reason in Mass Effect 3 there is no windowed full screen mode and I really don't want to play it in a borderless window in the middle of my screen.
Current cpu is core i7 2.9gz 6gb of RAM Speed Test: The DL seems to be a bit slow today, but thats what it is on an average day.
Okay, so I have a completely random question and have almost no knowledge of how to stream, but I'm hoping you guys will be able to help me out. Basically I suggested to one of our more analytical members of the TL LoL forum that, who streams regularly, that he setup his stream in such a way that he viewers have a 360p option.
That is a link to his stream thread. I basically have no idea what his current setup is, but im hoping someone can help me or him directly set it up. Would be awesome :D.
Edit: Damnit I just realized this topic was focused on twitch ._. Sorry about that.
On March 19 2012 21:09 Ziken wrote: Okay, so I have a completely random question and have almost no knowledge of how to stream, but I'm hoping you guys will be able to help me out. Basically I suggested to one of our more analytical members of the TL LoL forum that, who streams regularly, that he setup his stream in such a way that he viewers have a 360p option.
That is a link to his stream thread. I basically have no idea what his current setup is, but im hoping someone can help me or him directly set it up. Would be awesome :D.
Edit: Damnit I just realized this topic was focused on twitch ._. Sorry about that.
Needs to either stream directly at 360p, run multiple streams, or (most common by far option) become a twitch.tv partner which has requirements like 500 average viewers or something. Check the site.
I want to do some streaming utilizing a laptop i understood all there but i have a situation, i have X2 Panasonic HMC150 wich only have HDMI out, in all the capture devices there i only see 1 hdmi IN and id like to stream utilizing at least x2 cameras maybe 3 in the future, so id like to know how to plugin x2 or more cameras to the capture device and make the xplit or other software recognize each camera.
I saw some videos of conection where ppl use webcams and they conect them trough usb directly on the pc but my cameras cannot be conected trough usb.
i tough about a splittler but as far as i know the software wont recognize each camera independly? or im wrong? please help.
im adding a diagram i made in paint whit the situation im facing.
Hey everyone. Quick question. Would you guys suggest waiting for Ivy Bridge before getting a new Processor/Mobo or just go with the i7 2600k for streaming? The i7 2600k is only $200 at Microcenter and I hear that the Ivy Bridge has temperature issues, which make make it not as good to overclock but the Ivy Bridge does support PCIE 3.0 and supposedly has a 10% CPU performance increase. Thanks in advance.
Just a note, although there is no limit ttv imposes bitrate wise, you do have a technical limit to the ingest server you choose (location in xsplit). It can range anways from 500 kbps, to 15+mbps
I also recommend unchecking interleave audio and video into 1 rtmp stream.
On April 14 2012 13:10 KingStyle wrote: Hey guys, can anyone help me figure out why I cant set hotkeys in the game? I have it set to Window (FULLSCREEN) and I cant do any Control 0-9 keys :/
What relevance does this have to streaming at all??
Hey folks. Can anyone guide me to good streaming settings to get out @ 1080p on the following rig/internet without cutting on my viewers connection? I'm not a TwitchTV partner so scalable resolution isn't an option for my viewers and I want all of them to be able to watch regardless; if I go over 4000kbps, some of them complain of lag.
Rig: -Intel Core i7 2600k @3.6Ghz -8GB RAM -GPU ASUS DirectCU Radeon HD 6870 1GB
your going to have to cut back on the bandwidth. I'm guessing some of the viewers are european, and twitch and europe don't get along. Assuming they have decent connections, its just twitch's fault. Scale down the bandwidth by half and go with 720 or keep 1080 and go with a 3000kbps bandwidth. Personally I wouldn't stream above 3000kbps because I wouldn't be getting ad revenue, plus bandwidth cap. You don't need to change any xpslit settings unless your scaling back your resolution for a lower bandwidth.
At 200$, nothing IVB has will be competitive I think. A 2600k at that price is too good. Although as long as you keep voltages down or overclock below 4.5ish, IVB should be ok for overclocking.
On April 25 2012 06:13 KapsyL wrote: Hey ive run into a problem. the stream works great but when i play a game it starts blinking and stuff. anyone got some ideas?
Also. on certain games im not getting fullscreen (WoW/Counter-strike for example) Anyone know why?
Windowed fullscreen. Fullscreen likes to flip the fuck out that way, at least for me. FMLE/VHScreenCap.
Hi, anybody knows if its possible to stream broodwar full mode screen? i' ve got my settings nice and setup, but when i go in-game my colors get messed up and all you can see on the screen is black.
I can stream fine window -mode but i' m not used to and am not really inclined to learn.
SOmeone told me you cannot stream bw fullscreen with x-split, but maybe someone can help me
Great thread GunRun. I was wondering if you or anyone else here could tell me if Intel Core i7-950 3.06ghz 8MB LGA1366 processor would be near equally good to the one you recommend above (i7-2600K LGA1155) - I simply don't have a fitting motherboard for the 1155 type and as such it would be suit my wallet better if I'd just get the 1366 version.
I just don't want to make the mistake of buying that processor if it ends up being insufficient for streaming purposes.
On May 23 2012 03:36 Chrobbus wrote: Great thread GunRun. I was wondering if you or anyone else here could tell me if Intel Core i7-950 3.06ghz 8MB LGA1366 processor would be near equally good to the one you recommend above (i7-2600K LGA1155) - I simply don't have a fitting motherboard for the 1155 type and as such it would be suit my wallet better if I'd just get the 1366 version.
I just don't want to make the mistake of buying that processor if it ends up being insufficient for streaming purposes.
You should try posting this in the computer build resources thread under tech support as this thread seems pretty dead in getting help.
Edit: still the Op is pretty good, thanks for that
On May 23 2012 03:36 Chrobbus wrote: Great thread GunRun. I was wondering if you or anyone else here could tell me if Intel Core i7-950 3.06ghz 8MB LGA1366 processor would be near equally good to the one you recommend above (i7-2600K LGA1155) - I simply don't have a fitting motherboard for the 1155 type and as such it would be suit my wallet better if I'd just get the 1366 version.
I just don't want to make the mistake of buying that processor if it ends up being insufficient for streaming purposes.
You should try posting this in the computer build resources thread under tech support as this thread seems pretty dead in getting help.
On June 13 2012 04:28 KillerSOS wrote: I'm looking for an alternative to Xsplit now that it isn't free anymore.
Check out FFSplit. It's still a beta and it's a little bit harder to set up (you have to use virtual audio cable to blend microphone/stereo mix for now) but it's still very much a usable alternative.
On June 13 2012 04:28 KillerSOS wrote: I'm looking for an alternative to Xsplit now that it isn't free anymore.
Check out FFSplit. It's still a beta and it's a little bit harder to set up (you have to use virtual audio cable to blend microphone/stereo mix for now) but it's still very much a usable alternative.
Virtual Audio Cable is basically the same cost as Xsplit, so that kinda cancels out the benefits of FFsplit.
On May 23 2012 03:36 Chrobbus wrote: Great thread GunRun. I was wondering if you or anyone else here could tell me if Intel Core i7-950 3.06ghz 8MB LGA1366 processor would be near equally good to the one you recommend above (i7-2600K LGA1155) - I simply don't have a fitting motherboard for the 1155 type and as such it would be suit my wallet better if I'd just get the 1366 version.
I just don't want to make the mistake of buying that processor if it ends up being insufficient for streaming purposes.
Yes. Any i5/i7 will stream fine. So will a phenom 1090t, 1035t especially with an overclock, or most other decent processors.
EDIT: I apologize for the double post, I intended to edit my original message
Anyone have any idea/fix for why my only available Audio Encoding Format is 16 000 KHz 16 bit mono? I am on a new computer so I'm not sure if I'm missing certain drivers or... Anyway, help would be appreciated so much, thank you for reading.
e-- seems to be a limitation from unpaid xsplit. i can't really justify 60$ for a 1-year subscription when i can probably just set this up on FME and VAC like i have in the past. oh well :B
I was wondering if you could help me out. My bf asked me to stream with him. We played for a bit last night but the viewers expressed the desire to see my gameplay as well as his. They could see my facial expressions and wanted to see what was making me react that way lol. The problem is that we just can't figure out how to do it. Any help you could give us would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time and effort in helping out others. :0) LadyInnominate
Oh... I forgot to mention... He is using xsplit to broadcast and we used skype to add my very expressive face to the video.
With the "big screens" getting more common, anyone here using a hardware capture device with a 2560x1440 resolution and streaming 1280x720? Is that even possible or do I just have to man up to get a friggin monster of a cpu?
On September 15 2012 05:36 koaschten wrote: With the "big screens" getting more common, anyone here using a hardware capture device with a 2560x1440 resolution and streaming 1280x720? Is that even possible or do I just have to man up to get a friggin monster of a cpu?
Encoding 1280x720 isnt really hard at all. With a 2560x1440 software capture source you are going to have massive issues with capturing (performance hits are related to source resolution*captureFPS), but the actual downscaling and encoding isnt particularly hard, you would want to capture at no more than 24-30fps with that kind of source resolution if you are trying to have any kind of good performance, but encode resolution wise, you can easily hit 1920x1080 with those framerates with a sandy/ivy bridge i5/i7, or an overclocked i7 9xx quad if your system is older, using the veryfast preset i think.
I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings. When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote: I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings. When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?
Hm you shouldn't get fps drops.
I have an i5 2500k at stock and I can stream at 720P without any lag whatsoever (obviously I can't stream at that due to bad upload speed).
I do use dxtory though as I used to have problems with xsplits screen capture that would cause me lag on my old computer. I mean judging from the processor I imagine your pc in general is pretty good, shouldn't be having problems.
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote: I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings. When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?
Hm you shouldn't get fps drops.
I have an i5 2500k at stock and I can stream at 720P without any lag whatsoever (obviously I can't stream at that due to bad upload speed).
I do use dxtory though as I used to have problems with xsplits screen capture that would cause me lag on my old computer. I mean judging from the processor I imagine your pc in general is pretty good, shouldn't be having problems.
Any kind of software capture (that i know of) will hit framerates pretty hard (though maybe not noticably, if you are not monitoring them with something like FRAPS) and most people experience a laggy feel to some games.
Running sc2 at mainly low settings for me will give about 350fps staring at probes early game, but bring in xsplit or ffsplit capturing my 1920x1080 screen at 60fps, and game framerates are barely above 200, moving camera feels wonky, and many people are aparantly a lot worse off than me with performance.
On September 25 2012 17:16 xrayEU wrote: I have a i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz and it feels like it's not enough power, maybe it's my xsplit settings. When I stream 720p I can feel the fps drops so I was wondering if a Capture card would make a big difference for me or should I be fine if I tweak my xsplit settings?
If one or more of your CPU cores come close to max (stream a replay with task manager performance tab in the background, check cores, look for any over ~80% during a battle or something) then you can lower resolution, but you should be good with plenty of room with an overclocked 2500k, lowering framerate in xsplit should give you better game performance (less capture work) but if you are already at 30fps (and not more, like 45-60) and your CPU isnt maxing out any cores, there is not much you can do to improve performance AFAIK. I dont personally know how well capture cards work and they are far from a complete solution in a single PC setup so dont expect a quick fix there.
If you are playing on highish settings and just want more performance, try dropping to medium shaders with high/ultra textures and effects, models on high, and play with lowering physics and reflections. That will perform a lot better than flicking settings to max and ignoring them and still have the same kind of look, especially with the high res textures
Just wanted to ask about what the optimal upload speed for streaming at 720p at 60fps is.
Also what is the optimal computer specs that allows you to have 2 or 3 screens (resolution preferbly at 1280x720 or 1980x1080) able to play Sc2, CS:GO, console games (I have a HDPVR) at the above stated quality and frame rate? I just wanted to have a look at the specs and the cost, but if a budget is required, it will be below $2500
Also, is it recommended to switch to optical fiber network? As when I looked through the brochure, it said that the international speed for optical fiber network is slower than my concurrent network. My internet speed now is 20 mbps download and 1.5mpbs upload.
I have tried streaming and with my rubbish computer I can stream optimally at 25fps 360p while having an in game fps of 30-34.
Quick question about the Aver Media Live Gamer HD. Does it let you capture gameplay (like fraps) and stream at the same time(Twitch) without the massive performance hit on the CPU? Am I understanding this correctly?
I'm not talking about BW because with windowed mode it isn't an issue, but I tried to stream Age of Empires and EVERYTHING was fucked up from the color to resolution. Having a virtual computer would probably fix it, but that seems to complicated. Is there a simple way to stream old fashion games with outdated color palets?
this is really helpful but im having trouble when i sign in it keeps saying "could not connect to xsplit servers" what can i do? or do i have to buy a license? please help me thank you.
On December 24 2012 16:56 Twingster wrote: How does the 3770k fare for streaming?
Its a great CPU, you'll be perfectly happy with it. Although you could get the Live Gamer HD people have been raving about, and then go for a 3570k, which is the best you'll need for gaming.
Hey I was thinking about getting Hauppauge HD-PVR (http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html), but I'm not the brightest when it comes to computers or electronics in general. I was just curious if my TV would support this product being a Sharp lc-26sh20u model. According to the websites I checked it should be 720p HD, but I'm just curious if that is to low for the PVR or if I was somehow mistaken on it being 720p.
Also I was curious as to whether or not I needed anything other than what the PVR comes with to stream. Obviously I know i would need like xsplit or OBS, but I mean would game audio sound fine? It should come with all the cables needed to stream, correct? Would my mic work also while streaming? I will still be able to see my monitor while streaming console games right?
Would there be a better system for my computer other than HD-PVR such as Blackmagic Design Intensity Shuttle (http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/intensity/) or AVerMedia AVerTV HD-DVR (http://www.avermedia-usa.com/AVertv/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=488)?
I really only want to use this for my Gamecube if that matters at all. I don't plan on using it on anything other than that expect maybe other Nintendo devices like a Wii or a N64.
Computer specs encase they matter at all are as follows: AMD Phenom IIX4 955 NVIDIA GeForceGTX 560 TI Windows 7 64byte OS Download speed of 17mbps Upload speed of 1.87mpbs My monitor is a LED LG IPS236VX - I have and use an HDMI cable
If there is anything I missing please ask and I will be happy to tell you. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes time out of there day to answer these questions. It is greatly appreciated.
My speedtest.net test is as follows: ping = 4ms DL speed = 120.62 mbps UL speed= inconsistent, but lowest was 55 mbps
However, my average data rate on the xsplit broadcaster bandwidth test is about 700-800kbps. As a result, when I set my max bitrate to 1000kbps, there is still a significant amount of dropped frames. From the first page, I gathered that I could set my max bitrate somewhere 500-600kbps below my max upload speed, which obviously is not possible. Can I get some advice on why I cannot stream at a higher bit rate? Thanks!
Not sure if this thread is still being updated but I've recently been partnered on Twitch but whenever I stream my viewers can only view in either the resolution I'm streaming (720p+) and 360p. How do I get 480p and 720p? Even if I stream in 1080p I only get 360p as the alternative.
Hey all, thanks in advance for taking the time to read this.
So today I decided I wanted to stream, I play SC2, WoW, Civ5, and a bunch of other games, and I love the streaming community. I found this guide here, http://www.mikechambers.com/blog/201...g-on-mac-os-x/ and I followed it to a T.
My output stream is 1280x720, 24 FPS, bitrate is 1500, the stream is very good video quality, except the FPS ranged anywhere from 9-13 fps while I'm in a game (even lower probably). Not only that, but the stream is choppy (due to the FPS). The video LOOKS good, but its choppy and laggy.
In game for me, it's a bit laggy, not too much, but you can definitely tell the CPU is working its ass off while the Flash Media Live Encoder is streaming my desktop from camtwist. The settings in Camtwist match up with FMLE too, so I don't know what the problem is.
I even changed the resolution output settings to 360p and 480p and its the same amount of FPS and choppiness as it is when I try to stream 720p.
In a nut shell, the main issue is the stream is choppy and very LITTLE fps, yet my imac specs should be MORE than enough to handle this, and changing the resolution/fps in the FMLE settings had no effect on the stream.
here are the specs.
Processor 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3 Memory 12 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 Graphics ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB Software OS X 10.8.4 (12E55) My Internet download speed ranges from 25-30mbps, and my upload speed ranges from 8-9 mbps.
ALSO, a key thing to note is when I looked at Activity Monitor, Flash Media Live Encoder is using 180-190 , and CamTwist sits around 80. I know these are extremely high.
has anyone experienced this and know how to fix the stream quality/fps/choppyness and the intense CPU usage from these two programs?
My computer should be able to handle this don't you think?
It's probably an i3 550, which is outperformed by like 2.5-3x by a stock current gen i5, which has twice as many cores, higher frequency (3.7ghz with four cores active) and significantly higher (30%?) performance at the same clock speed due to architectural improvements
Since you keep mentioning pc, it's actually quite low end by current standards. I don't really know anything about mac OS or FMLE to help, sorry
That's subjective and i maxed out my 4770k (at higher clock.. with 20% faster encoding from hyperthreading, and over 25% higher performance per clock in x264, so >1.5x as powerful) with a 1920x1080, 60fps veryfast preset stream in sc2, a ton of people set settings too aggressively
That's subjective and i maxed out my 4770k (at higher clock.. with 20% faster encoding from hyperthreading, and over 25% higher performance per clock in x264, so >1.5x as powerful) with a 1920x1080, 60fps veryfast preset stream in sc2, a ton of people set settings too aggressively
I'm sorry, buy I do not see the point you are trying to make? I'm just saying it works great for me whilst I got the same processor as him. So it's not impossible with that processor, maybe only less probable.
He means you're not making consistent 60fps ingame with 1080p60 without toning down CPU intensive options or a miracle, which kills the point of streaming at that quality.
He means you're not making consistent 60fps ingame with 1080p60 without toning down CPU intensive options
^That too, but i was referring to the more serious problem of maxing CPU cores (other than the main game thread core) which has drastically worse effects than just having suboptimal fps
Since I can't post a new thread because of the New User policy, can anyone help me out with this problem? My computer spec is AMD Phenom II X4 965 and GPU is GTX 660. I'm also using a single 8GB RAM. My internet is 12 down and 1.5 up. What setting should I use in XSPLIT?
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