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LG IPS226V or the Dell U2312HM might be worth considering.
Both are matte IPS monitors so you may not like it if you cannot stand rather thick antiglare coatings. Both will have decent viewing angles. The LG has better contrast but the Dell itself comes with a very nice height adjustable stand which can be put into portrait mode. In terms of responsiveness, both should roughly match 5ms TN monitors and both will have very low input lag.
If you do not want either monitor, just go into a store and try and find a monitor you think looks good. This sounds extremely unhelpful but with a rather limited budget, there isn't a lot of options or reviews on low end models. Some. such as the Samsung S22A350H which is a good 2ms monitor, are good options. But most aren't really worth considering.
If you want to buy a 2ms monitor you think sounds decent, be careful. Some 2ms monitors are actually pretty bad due to rather heavy reverse ghosting (dark image trailing). The Benq GL2450 and a number of Iiyama monitors seem to have dysfunctional response time compensation where the overdrive is either overcompensating or undercompensating far too much. Samsung typically gets it decent at worse so they're the brand to buy if you are buying blind.
Now I am not 100% sure the trustworthiness of the stores (I'm not Polish nor can read Polish sorry!) but I recommend the two IPS monitors or the Samsung 2ms monitors, which tend to be rather good if you are doing a blind buy.
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Thank you so much!
Is the difference in delay between a (decent) TN 2ms monitor and a IPS-based 5ms one clearly visible? I understand IPS' are superior to TN monitors in terms of image quality
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Quite likely. How much you actually care varies from person to person.
IPS' real benefits are solid front viewing angles so you don't get the gamma shifting you encounter on TN monitors. This is where the colour of the monitor is relatively unstable and uneven. So if the monitor is displaying a completely green image, the top of the monitor may be displaying a darker shade than the bottom. IPS monitors tend to be much better in this regard.
Also for this reason, if you want to use a monitor in portrait mode you should probably get an IPS monitor.
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Hey - I'm interested in buying a monitor, but I'm sort of an idiot when it comes to monitors. I'll try not to ask idiotic questions, but please bear with me.
I tried reading most of the thread, and since I use an XPS 15 with one HDMI port and one minidisplay port, I assume that means I CANNOT connect it to any monitor with 1920x1080 resolution?
If that is the case, I just want to buy a monitor that doesn't look like shit; I honestly don't care too much about specs. I'm thinking Dell / HP, I like their shipping policy and they seem to be a relatively reliable brand. I'm using the monitor for gaming. Is it possible to get a good/decent monitor for under 150 usd?
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displayport can do 1920x1080 easy. I drive 2560x1600 with displayport at work
<$150 decent depends on your definition of the word "decent"
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On June 07 2012 10:35 phar wrote:
displayport can do 1920x1080 easy. I drive 2560x1600 with displayport at work
<$150 decent depends on your definition of the word "decent"
"120hz monitors can only run at 1920x1080 with dual-link DVI or DisplayPort. No ifs or buts.
To get the benefits of 120hz monitors, you need a very powerful desktop."
So, does DisplayPort in the author's post relate to MiniDisplayPort? If that's the case, I will probably get a 120hz monitor. I am planning to build a relatively good desktop (i5 2500k / gtx 560TI), but for now, I am using a dell XPS 15 with maxed specs (GT540m and 3.1GHz CPU). Is it relatively stupid for me to pay the price to get a 120hz monitor?
I assume there are 60hz monitors capable of running 1920x1080- can anyone recommend me to any such monitors? I am hoping to pay under 200 usd. (unless i could get a 1920x1080 120hz monitor for that price, of course).
thanks for your replies!
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About DisplayPort: yes it does. About 120hz monitors: 120hz monitor is pointless if you cannot maintain well over 60hz most of the time. A Dell XPS won't do that and depending on the game, the GTX560Ti probably won't either unless you turn all of the quality settings down to low.
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On June 07 2012 10:32 findingthelimit wrote:
I tried reading most of the thread, and since I use an XPS 15 with one HDMI port and one minidisplay port, I assume that means I CANNOT connect it to any monitor with 1920x1080 resolution?
I am perplexed about what in the OP actually made you infer that?
HDMI has limited bandwidth, but it can do up to 1900x1200 60Hz. If you connect a 120Hz monitor via HDMI, it will simply have a max refresh rate of 60Hz. I believe HDMI since revision 1.3 has been gaining more bandwidth but still can't do 1920x1080 120Hz or 2560x1600 60Hz as far as I can tell (someone correct me if I'm wrong) - maybe due to monitors&video cards not using the newer revision or I have no idea really.
miniDP has more bandwidth so it can do 1920x1080 120Hz or something like 2560x1600 60Hz.
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I myself have recently been looking at monitors as my current one is slowly dying. I have been looking closely at the BenQ RL2450HT and the BenQ XL2410T. The XL is a little bit more expensive but it comes with a nice 120hz. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts about these two monitors specifically? Or, can I get a better monitor than the two listed above for ~£200/$300.
Obviously the main features are 1080p, a HDMI port would be nice also. Not too bothered about the size. Regarding LCD and LED, I've heard bad things about LED monitors(?) so any input there would be great.
Thanks for the help!
Juncie.
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On June 11 2012 05:06 Juncie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I myself have recently been looking at monitors as my current one is slowly dying. I have been looking closely at the BenQ RL2450HT and the BenQ XL2410T. The XL is a little bit more expensive but it comes with a nice 120hz. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts about these two monitors specifically? Or, can I get a better monitor than the two listed above for ~£200/$300.
Obviously the main features are 1080p, a HDMI port would be nice also. Not too bothered about the size. Regarding LCD and LED, I've heard bad things about LED monitors(?) so any input there would be great.
Thanks for the help!
Juncie.
Read the opening post.... it will answer most of your questions....
If you had read it, you'd know the XL2410T is not recommended. The XL2420T is about 260 pounds (just checked amazon.co.uk)
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Hey guys so I just got a new monitor and I am still working out some settings. Trying to get the right colors and stuff, despite all my best efforts I can seem to get it the white on the monitor to be as bright as my old one. So if I could get some help there it would be awesome, I also am having trouble with Starcraft 2, I like to play on windowed fullscreen mode but when I set it to this the game gets so dark I cant play it. I change change the settings in windowed fullscreen as well. So any help for my problems would be awesome.
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@Son of Gnome
Your monitor model would be, you know, a little useful.
You probably need to mess around with a mix of things available in the On-Screen Display, as well as some software gamma correction. I'd start by using the Windows 7 calibrator if you have that - it will help you eyeball some gamma and contrast values that look decent to your eyes (and probably somewhat correct), as well as maybe remove some obvious color tints. Then adjust brightness to your comfort level and honestly that's about as good of a calibration as you can do without a calibrator ... if the monitor is bad, there isn't much more you can do about it.
Need your monitor model, though. Most monitors are really bad outside of whatever their "Standard" preset is, so if you start the calibration from something else, your results will probably be worse.
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Can't find any decent reviews online on the following monitors, any help guys?
1) HP 23-inch X2301 micro thin LED SWORD Monitor
2) AOC 21.5-inch Led wide super slim, Razor e2243Fw
3) AOC i2353PH
4) ASUS LCD ML229H IPS
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What's the difference between the BenQ XL2420 and the BenQ XL2420T??
The BenQ XL2420T seems incredibly cheap on amazon.co.uk - only £199.....
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If I recall correctly, they're the same monitor. There's the xl2420t and the xl2420tx, just some people leave off the t/tx for convenience. The tx comes with 3d glasses, for the t you have to buy them seperately. And yeah, that does seem like a good price. If you buy one, tell 'em it's because of e-sports  .
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No real difference. Are you sure you aren't mistaking one of those monitors with the XL2410?
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yeah, fuck ...... i'm an idiot, in that case, whats the difference between the BenQ XL2420 and the BenQ XL2410T?
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60 pounds and suck vs great.
As I remember womwomwom or someone mentioned the 2410 had terribly implemented overdrive and is not worth getting. Whereas the 2420 is high quality.
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Also, are there any 120hz IPS monitors? And is the difference between TN panel and IPS panel that the image quality is better from all viewing angles for the IPS panels?
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Yes, viewing angles is the most important benefit. Even when viewing head on, the viewing angles of a TN screen can be an issue**. This is also why TN panels don't exceed 28".
There are IPS monitors that can achieve more than 60hz* with some changes to the GPU's pixel clock. The problem is that you've got no way of returning the monitor incase of "minor" defects like you would with local models. Also they still won't be as good as true 120hz TN monitors in terms of raw motion performance, even if you do somehow achieve 120hz.
*What refresh rate you can achieve is dependent on your GPU and GPU configuration. As far as I know, the only GPU that can achieve 120hz is a single GTX680; SLI won't work.
**Here is an example of gamma shifting, only a bit exaggerated. Next time you are in a store, blow up a block of colour on a TN monitor. The bottom of the block should look quite different to the top:
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