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Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
May 16 2012 19:54 GMT
#341
On May 17 2012 04:34 badugib wrote:
what do you guys think about the iiyama prolite g2773hs that will be coming out? its 27" 120hz 1ms response rate. I really am curious getting this. However, I guess I have to wait until someone posts the ghosting effects and input lag in this monitor. Digitalversus gave a short review, they say the color sucks, which I guess doesn't matter for me since I want to game with it, not oogle at pretty pictures. However, it BRIEFLY says the input lag is low, but no definitive evidence to back him up with it.


1920x1080 resolution on 27" sucks... also it's too big for TN...

For the same reason, the new Asus VG278H sucks, but at least it comes with a good stand. It costs a hilarious $700 though.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
badugib
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States80 Posts
May 17 2012 01:17 GMT
#342
I guess its true. 120hz monitors can only be 1920x1080 anyways, if its 27", your just buying unnecessary crap when your 24" 1920x1080 will have the same effect putting your monitor 6 inches closer to your face.
just started last week
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 18 2012 08:19 GMT
#343
Microcenter is selling cheapass 2560x1440 monitors for $400. Much cheaper and safer than buying from Korea since you can deal with Microcenter, which is apparently not that bad when it comes to warranty and shit. They still look like shit but can you complain at the price?

Link.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 09:23:15
May 18 2012 09:20 GMT
#344
They aren't IPS panels -- a world of difference.

edit: ok maybe they are. Still around 100 more expensive than the korean monitors though.
Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 18 2012 09:40 GMT
#345
They're actually cheaper than the Korean multi-input monitors. These have DisplayPort, HDMI, and DVI. And actually have local warranty from Microcenter so product returns and RMA services don't cost you an arm and a leg.
badugib
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States80 Posts
May 20 2012 19:34 GMT
#346
I wish 120hz monitor with 2560x1440 monitors were invented....
just started last week
AJCpar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States32 Posts
May 21 2012 02:46 GMT
#347
So what do you guys think about this monitor? I can get it for about $150, but I'm not really a monitor expert so I was wondering what you guys thought. It seems like it's response time is pretty good (2ms), 24 inches, and 1080p, so it seems pretty good to me for the price. Thanks!http://usa.asus.com/Display/LCD_Monitors/VS248HP/#specifications
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 21 2012 02:51 GMT
#348
As I mentioned in the OP, response time means nothing. The VS248H has reverse ghosting. That's a pretty cheap price but its nothing worth noting to be quite honest.
AJCpar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States32 Posts
May 21 2012 03:07 GMT
#349
Ok, so would you suggest getting that monitor? Of if there's a better one I would greatly appreciate the suggestion!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 21 2012 03:13 GMT
#350
Well...it depends on how much you really want to spend.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 21 2012 03:26 GMT
#351
I did a little bit of looking around, and are you sure you're talking about the same monitor? According to prad.de review, they looked at VS229H and it had no adjustable Trace Free controls, but VS229H-P does. Amazon and other reviews for VS248H-P say that Trace Free controls are available. Asus Trace Free setting adjusts the pixel overdrive, so the amount of ghosting vs. reverse ghosting.

So even if VS248H has reverse ghosting, it should be that the VS248H-P can be configured not to have bad reverse ghosting.
AJCpar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States32 Posts
May 21 2012 03:32 GMT
#352
On May 21 2012 12:13 Womwomwom wrote:
Well...it depends on how much you really want to spend.

I'm hoping to go under $200, but if it's impossible to find a good monitor in that price range I would be willing to go up another $100.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 04:07:29
May 21 2012 04:03 GMT
#353
On May 21 2012 12:26 Myrmidon wrote:
I did a little bit of looking around, and are you sure you're talking about the same monitor? According to prad.de review, they looked at VS229H and it had no adjustable Trace Free controls, but VS229H-P does. Amazon and other reviews for VS248H-P say that Trace Free controls are available. Asus Trace Free setting adjusts the pixel overdrive, so the amount of ghosting vs. reverse ghosting.

So even if VS248H has reverse ghosting, it should be that the VS248H-P can be configured not to have bad reverse ghosting.


Nope you're right, I'm off the ball this week. It should have trace-free feature, which can adjust the overdrive to reduce ghosting/reverse ghosting.

On May 21 2012 12:32 AJCpar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 12:13 Womwomwom wrote:
Well...it depends on how much you really want to spend.

I'm hoping to go under $200, but if it's impossible to find a good monitor in that price range I would be willing to go up another $100.


For that price range, you aren't going to find anything better (or as larger) for the price.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 21 2012 12:54 GMT
#354
I just went for Eizo 23" LED FlexScan EV2335W-GB

Should I reconsider this? I play SC2, Diablo3 a lot, and I really love colors. Mostly Im stoned when I play. Given this information, should I reconsider this monitor I just ordered?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 13:22:41
May 21 2012 13:19 GMT
#355
How much will it cost you? As far as I know, pricing for Eizo monitors in Sweden and Norway are a lot lower than the rest of the world. If the price is around a Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM, then getting the Eizo EV2335W is a no-brainer.

The monitor is essentially the FS2332 with a business aesthetic. The only real difference between the FS2332 and EV2335W is that the FS2332 has a 10 bit LUT while the EV2335W has a 8 bit LUT. The 10 bit LUT makes it easier to achieve smoother gradients. Seriously speaking, you probably won't care since Eizo tends to do a decent job with factory calibration.
Vireo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada35 Posts
May 23 2012 01:20 GMT
#356
I'm planning to get a new monitor and would like some input on what to get. I think I've narrowed it down to 3 (Price isn't that big of a concern as long it stays within $200).

Samsung SyncMaster S24B300HL 23.6in $189.99
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38427

BenQ VW2420H 24in $179.99
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX33421

Asus VH236H Black 23" $159.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

I'm kinda leaning towards the Asus and would like some opinions from others or even suggestions on other monitors. I'm using memory express since I can pick up and save on shipping.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 23 2012 13:19 GMT
#357
I'd probably get the Asus to be quite honest. Its a pretty decent TN monitor with the trace-free function, as far as I know. I believe the best trace free values are 40 or 60.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 19:57:54
May 23 2012 19:55 GMT
#358
I'm looking for a (computer) monitor for my ps3 and watching movies, stuff like that. I heard ps3 should be 16 : 9 and support that encrypted thing, hdcp i think its called? Preferably a big screen, 27,28,29,30", something like that. No more than about 600 euro. Any advice?
Also, is there any consumer oriented amoled or 120hz ips panels coming out soon? Or maybe a 4k screen? Should I wait for those? Because the monitor market seem to have stood still for quite a few years now... If you buy an IPS you cant play games, if you buy a 120hz TN panel you cant watch movies and so on... Kinda shitty.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 22:47:32
May 23 2012 22:45 GMT
#359
Even if there was a consumer OLED screen coming to the desktop market, I wouldn't get it because you're going to get burn in and kill the blue subpixel extremely quickly. Desktop workloads are the worst when it comes to panel stress.

If you buy an IPS you cant play games, if you buy a 120hz TN panel you cant watch movies and so on... Kinda shitty.


- IPS play games fine. Is it because that they're not as fast as a 120hz monitor or is it because for another reason? Professional Starcraft 2 players have used the Eizo FS2332 so I can't see why most people would have any problem with it.
- 120hz TN panels can run at 60hz if you really want to watch movies without the soap opera effect.

There are ~100hz IPS monitors just you have to mess with drivers and whatever. Buy from here. Keep in mind they're A- panels so they're stuff that Dell/Apple/etc. don't want.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 01:00:27
May 24 2012 00:27 GMT
#360
The second paragraph was mostly an unrelated inquiry about the state of the monitor market.
I have a Samsung 226bw, I don't know how it compares to newer IPS panels for playing games. 2ms to 6ms? input lag? Either way, that's not too relevant since I'll use it for ps3 and movies. I just want it to have really good viewing angles, both vertical and horizontal. And preferably better colors than my current one. Are you recommending the Achieva Shimian QH270/Catleap Q270? It seems a bit risky with no warranty to help in case of dead pixels, defect screen or stuff like that.

So you don't think I should wait for better PLS or OLED screens and just go with a midrange IPS? Apart from those suspicious screens, what alternatives are there?
NEC MultiSync PA231W, Samsung S27A850T, Eizo Foris FX2431, Dell UltraSharp U2711, ViewSonic VP2765-LED? Any of those to consider (i realize not all of them are 27")?
no whatever, just recommend me the best 27" monitor for console. I don't care about antiglare or stuff like that. But I'd rather it doesn't buzz too loudly.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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