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Its a typical TN with a nice stand and some nifty OSD options.
On March 11 2012 14:37 oo_xerox wrote:
ok.....noobster in the room folks....
After reading what was at first an uncomprehensible wall of text in the OP, i realized that this country has very....veeery few options regarding monitors, they are quite overpriced and when i googled the reviews of some, may i say, apparently good choices it turns out that those arent any good. So far im pretty sure i want a 24" monitor. The thing is, ive already bought my pc build, the only thing missing is the GPU, and im waiting for the monitor since ive read that, holy shit is that important, so, ive laid my eyes on the ASUS VH238H 24" , which costs an stupidly 300$ in this country (sigh) , if i buy it, im i ok to buy any gpu? im ofc not planning on getting an 6990 but maybe a good one around 150-260$..
Edit: Also, can i get some advice on which GPU to buy with that monitor? :3
PC thread will tell you what GPU to buy. Resolution is all that matters.
What options *can* you actually get in Cuba? I'm not going to try shooting into the dark here.
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Waited on that refurb 750d too long after hearing that BenQ addressed the ghosting issues of the 2410 with the 2420. Any word on this gents?
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On March 11 2012 20:31 Womwomwom wrote:Its a typical TN with a nice stand and some nifty OSD options. Show nested quote +On March 11 2012 14:37 oo_xerox wrote:
ok.....noobster in the room folks....
After reading what was at first an uncomprehensible wall of text in the OP, i realized that this country has very....veeery few options regarding monitors, they are quite overpriced and when i googled the reviews of some, may i say, apparently good choices it turns out that those arent any good. So far im pretty sure i want a 24" monitor. The thing is, ive already bought my pc build, the only thing missing is the GPU, and im waiting for the monitor since ive read that, holy shit is that important, so, ive laid my eyes on the ASUS VH238H 24" , which costs an stupidly 300$ in this country (sigh) , if i buy it, im i ok to buy any gpu? im ofc not planning on getting an 6990 but maybe a good one around 150-260$..
Edit: Also, can i get some advice on which GPU to buy with that monitor? :3 PC thread will tell you what GPU to buy. Resolution is all that matters. What options *can* you actually get in Cuba? I'm not going to try shooting into the dark here.
I found this 24" monitors, all around the same price, i really want 24" but maybe its just psychological and there really isnt much of a difference betwen 23" and 24"
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- AOC LED E2343F (23")
- ASUS VS247
- aoc 2436VWH
- ASUS VE248H (so far this one seems like the best option)
- LG E2411T
- asus ml238
- asus-vg236h* This one is 120hz but its twice as expensive, it costs 600$, prices here regarding Computer tech are very very high.
Im not sure if this is what you meant by my options, >_< Theres really nothing i can do regarding prices, there is only one source here for buying pc parts, much like a craiglist, and since there are no private stores individuals must import hardware from other countries, that plus having no competition really ups the prices, it really sucks, im building a new pc and everything is so damn expensive, so i just try to get the best out of my buy disregarding the price factor...
I couldn find a single 24" Samsung monitor...apparently the BX2450 is one of the best 60hz monitors and a lot of samsungs get very good reviews
Edit: Im so frustrated...i cant even find a single 16:10 monitor
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On March 12 2012 01:36 Yeager183 wrote:
Waited on that refurb 750d too long after hearing that BenQ addressed the ghosting issues of the 2410 with the 2420. Any word on this gents?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VoTaY.jpg)
Its not great but its not god awful like before. Its about as bad as the Dell Ultrasharps, which isn't really that awful all things considered.
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At this year's CeBIT ASUS is showcasing the world's first monitor with a built-in 4-port USB 3.0 hub, the PA248Q. Part of the ProArt Series, this SuperSpeed USB-enhanced display makes use of a 24-inch IPS panel, and has LED backlighting, 178/178 degree viewing angles, a native resolution of 1920 x 1200 pixels, a 5,000:1 contrast ratio, a 6 ms response time, and a maximum brightness of 400 cd/m2.
The PA248Q also boasts D-Sub, DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort inputs, the QuickFit Virtual Scale feature, and a stand allowing for height, swivel, tilt and pivot adjusting. A pre-order listing has the monitor at about $594.
lol Asus.
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On March 12 2012 08:04 Womwomwom wrote:
lol Asus.
What, you're not skeptical, are you?  Maybe Asus made some significant breakthrough, ya know?
Just like I can get my car to fly
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So I got my BenQ XL2420T today and just my luck I have stuck pixel in it too. I've pretty much tried every method found on the internet but it simply refuses to go away and taunts me there pretty much in the middle of the screen.
Also I'd like some help using those icc profiles for calibration since I've never done so and I'm pretty lost at what I should do.
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You can try returning it to your retailer, if they're nice.
Realistically you can't really calibrate without an actual tool but this should help:
- Set preset to Standard. This is important since its the only preset that doesn't suck.
- Set RGB to 96,99,95. Leave contrast at 50 and make sure Gamma is at 1.
I thought I made the instructions clear in the OP. You download ICC profile, save it in the spot I mentioned in the OP, and activate it inside colour management.
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I'm almost sure I did everything correctly like you wrote in the OP, however I'm not seeing much of a difference though. Compared to my old monitor the colours are just so different, guess I just need to get used to it.
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On March 17 2012 00:19 DCRed wrote:
I'm almost sure I did everything correctly like you wrote in the OP, however I'm not seeing much of a difference though. Compared to my old monitor the colours are just so different, guess I just need to get used to it.
If you don't see much difference applying the profile, then maybe the default wasn't that far off. It's just likely that the old monitor was grossly out of calibration, not that color accuracy particularly matters much or at all to most users.
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I cannot imagine how you can play on something bigger than 24''. Doesn't it hurt your eyes?
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On March 17 2012 00:19 DCRed wrote:
I'm almost sure I did everything correctly like you wrote in the OP, however I'm not seeing much of a difference though. Compared to my old monitor the colours are just so different, guess I just need to get used to it.
The main issue with the BenQ XL2420T is black crush (as well as some banding). That is the gamma curve is so out of wack that the darkest shades become impossible to differentiate. This fixes these problems. Its probably something you don't really notice unless you try to look for it or know what it looks like.
I think I mentioned in the OP that scrub level calibration you and I do is less done to get accurate colours but to eliminate really annoying problems you might encounter.
On March 17 2012 02:06 MaV_gGSC wrote:
I cannot imagine how you can play on something bigger than 24''. Doesn't it hurt your eyes?
I game on an Apple Cinema Display. Doesn't hurt my eyes because I sit further back.
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Maybe you can add this link (and I'm sure there's others) for super scrub-level monitor diagnostics and by-eye calibration:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
It will at least clearly reveal gamma, improper contrast settings, and banding issues.
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I noticed know one is talking about NEC monitors. why? All of the manufactures you all are talking about (samsung,asus) make up their own specs(contrast,ms) to make it seem like their monitors are better than they really are. NEC is one of the only companies that follow the proper specs, they don't lie to you like samsung/asus with their 1-1,000,000 contrast bullshit. I just bought the MultiSync PA231W a few months ago and I couldn't love it more. The sharp and depth of the picture is amazing. I've researched so many different monitors, and I know NECs are expensive but honestly spend the extra 100-200 bucks more to get a NEC that will last you years to come. You won't regret it.
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I did mention it but its by far out of most people's price range and they've all got really high input lag because they're all professional monitors (14-bit 3D lookup tables holy shit what is Joe Blow going to do with that?). I've got a damaged NEC LCD2690wuxi2 in storage and its a pretty mean monitor if you don't mind the huge input lag.
From what I know, the trio of high end Japanese manufacturers (Fujitsu, Eizo, NEC) do actually give you what they claim to offer. Sometimes more, I know some Eizo/NEC/Fujitsu monitors actually exceed their rated contrast ratios.
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Hi guys, first of all, very interesting thread... thanks so much to who have posted here.
So i'm interested on getting an IPS panel monitor, but here there are no too many options... between these ones, which monitor should i get? Dell U2312HM, LG IPS235P, ASUS ML239H. Is one of them decent\good to play games?
I've read good comments about Dell U2312HM, but i would like to read your opinions too 
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Get the U2312HM without question.
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If the price on the U2312HM is not significantly higher and you don't think you'll be bothered by the mild pixel overshoot issues (resulting in reverse ghosting), there's not much motivation to get one of the alternatives for 23" eIPS monitors.
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On March 17 2012 13:35 DjRetro wrote:Hi guys, first of all, very interesting thread... thanks so much to who have posted here. So i'm interested on getting an IPS panel monitor, but here there are no too many options... between these ones, which monitor should i get? Dell U2312HM, LG IPS235P, ASUS ML239H. Is one of them decent\good to play games? I've read good comments about Dell U2312HM, but i would like to read your opinions too
LG IPS235P or any LG IPS is very good. I can stand like 10 feet away from it and still see movies very clearly. The Dell U2312HM got a lot of praise for its low input lag. Not sure about the ASUS ML239H but I wouldn't go for ASUS since I've heard they're not really good brand in terms of quality/reliability.
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On March 17 2012 11:43 kungfujesus wrote:
I noticed know one is talking about NEC monitors. why? All of the manufactures you all are talking about (samsung,asus) make up their own specs(contrast,ms) to make it seem like their monitors are better than they really are. NEC is one of the only companies that follow the proper specs, they don't lie to you like samsung/asus with their 1-1,000,000 contrast bullshit. I just bought the MultiSync PA231W a few months ago and I couldn't love it more. The sharp and depth of the picture is amazing. I've researched so many different monitors, and I know NECs are expensive but honestly spend the extra 100-200 bucks more to get a NEC that will last you years to come. You won't regret it.
The problem with NEC is that they don't make high-end monitors for gaming. Also, they're a tiny company not huge like Samsung or LG. My friend owns a NEC monitor (27" I don't know the name) and it's absolutely horrible for the eyes when it comes to gaming.
NEC itself can't develop newer technologies as rapidly as Samsung. Samsung have progressed through investing in more high-tech displays (namely the organic LED displays for monitors which are going to be produced in a high-throughput process), Super AMOLED (for phones, tablets, etc) and new 20nm memory chips which will be much more efficient than today's memory chips (I read that production began in late 2011).
But what can other companies offer? Most IPS panels are supplied by LG. That's about it.
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