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Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 17:04 GMT
#1
Good afternoon people.

I am having trouble pin pointing my problems with my computer and running starcraft 2. It used to work just fine, but as I got better and my friends got better now it runs like poop while playing 4v4's and 3v3's and some times 2v2's.. This is annoying. I also play on low graphics.

here are my specs for my computer and i hope i get some good feedback on how to resolve my issue with Lag during big battles and just making SC2 run better in general.


ASUS P7H55-M/CSM LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

XFX HD-567X-ZNF3 Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply

Intel Core i5-650 Clarkdale 3.2GHz LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80616I5650

2 - Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 24 2012 17:16 GMT
#2
Check temperatures with HWMonitor while you are playing Starcraft II team games or just use a stress test program.
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 17:22 GMT
#3
whats a good stress test program
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 24 2012 17:26 GMT
#4
prime95 for cpu, furmark for gpu.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 24 2012 17:38 GMT
#5
Definitely sounds like a CPU problem (late game + team game slowdowns tend to be the processor dealing with large numbers of units). If the processor isn't overheating, it could be something else. Even a move towards large ling or marine based armies instead of battlecruisers and brood lords - the number of units & their pathing being the big deal for processors.

If the processor is getting hot though, at least you know a good solution. Otherwise you're pretty much stuck with overclocking your processor or being less CPU-intensive in some way.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 17:40 GMT
#6
how does one overclock there processor?
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 24 2012 17:44 GMT
#7
You don't, because it will make your overheating problem even worse.
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 17:45 GMT
#8
So I should get a new processor and mother board and this should make things better
KaienFEMC
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada127 Posts
January 24 2012 17:53 GMT
#9
Do the stress test and check the temperature, its possible that you just need new thermal paste/cpu fan.
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#10
Awesome thanks. and i do the stress test and temp check with the furmark program right
abei1234
Profile Joined June 2011
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 19:43:42
January 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#11
Those computer specs seem just fine. especially on low, maybe not flawless but certainly not slowdown to "poop"... If this was my problem, I would check that I have not accidentally plugged the monitor into the motherboard video HDMI port (because that would use the onboard graphics chip which is in your CPU) ..

If thats not the case then, I would check drivers - make sure to check that you have the latest ATI video drivers from www.ati.com and then make sure you installed the latest motherboard/chipset drivers from www.intel.com .

The video card has the most impact on performance and your Radeon 5670 is the first thing I would change if it were my system.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html - Radeon 5670 - scored 1,233.
GeForce GTX 460 (my video card runs SC2 fine on Ultra 1920x1200 res) = scores - 2,368 (nearly double) and is now approximately $139.99 so not too much.
These benchmarks are not a direct correlation to real-world performance in SC2 but that should be obvious.

The CPU being i5 Dual-core and 3.2ghz with turbo is still viable + Show Spoiler +
edited based on later posts = current generation midrange
and a Quad-Core will not likely help your SC2 lag but that is the next logical step up in CPU technology if CHOOSE to upgrade... + Show Spoiler +
edited based on later posts = upgrade to Intel quad-core if you cannot fix the slowdown by getting a new video card...
The 5670 has a bigger brother of 5770, 5870, which is last generation and the new current generation (first number 6 instead of 5) are 6770 -> 6870 -> 6970 -> and 6990 so you are about 5 leaps behind maximum single card performance there. again check the video card charts at http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

abei1234
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 18:22 GMT
#12
Maybe i just needa good fan or something to help prevent overheating to my graphics card or processor.... but then again I dont know much about computers.
FeiLing
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany428 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 18:32:34
January 24 2012 18:31 GMT
#13
The graphic card is pretty weak, should be enough for SC2 on low (but only on low) nevertheless though. Your problem could be gone already by no more than removing the dust inside of the case a bit (and maybe on the gpu and cpu fan if they are accessible). Make sure the fans are all running (also the case fans).
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 18:37 GMT
#14
I have no choice but to try most of these suggestions
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 24 2012 18:42 GMT
#15
On January 25 2012 03:18 abei1234 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The video card has the most impact on performance and your Radeon 5670 is the first thing I would change if it were my system.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html - Radeon 5670 - scored 1,233.
GeForce GTX 460 (my video card runs SC2 fine on Ultra 1920x1200 res) = scores - 2,368 (nearly double) and is now approximately $139.99 so not too much.

The CPU being i5 Dual-core and 3.2ghz with turbo is still current generation midrange but I would advise upgrading to Intel quad-core if you cannot fix the slowdown by getting a new video card... The 5670 has a bigger brother of 5770, 5870, which is last generation and the new current generation (first number 6 instead of 5) are 6770 -> 6870 -> 6970 -> and 6990 so you are about 5 leaps behind maximum single card performance there. again check the video card charts at http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html


Terrible terrible information.

No one cares about synthetic benches besides benchmarkers. The 5770 is the same as the 6770 fyi...

A clarkdale is not current generation. The current generation is Sandybridge.

Upgrading to a quad core isn't going to do shit for Starcraft II.

The first thing that needs replacing is the shitty Raidmax.
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 18:44 GMT
#16
I have no choice but to try most of these suggestions
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
January 24 2012 18:50 GMT
#17
A friend of mine let me borrow his GeForce GTX 480 and still slow down in big battles, so i switched back to my Radeon thinking it would help with reducing the lag.
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 19:13:50
January 24 2012 18:51 GMT
#18
Balladrinho, I'm a Systems Engineer for a large .com corporation, and can easily walk you through fixing your problems. I don't believe a general post on TL is an effective way to get responses from people who have a history of dealing with this type of issue. I normally rip my hair out, and paste other people's comments into AIM and laugh about it.

Instead of standing on the sidelines and laughing at the suggestions, I'd like to help out. PM me when you have a moment and I'll either fix your issue or identify a specific root cause (with a full explanation) that you can resolve for the smallest amount of $$$ possible.

You have the hardware to run SC2. This is a very simple problem with a very simple solution. Do *not* buy any hardware based on the suggestions above. This is my professional opinion, and I hope to hear from you soon. The user abei does know what he's talking about (I'm laughing at the other suggestions with him over PM right now), but him/I can get you back in order with ease.

For a quick fix, follow these $0 cost steps:
Hit ctrl+alt+F when you begin a game.
Disable VSync!!!
Set everything to LOW, and follow the below changes:
Set Terrain and Texture Detail to Medium. Consider setting to low.
Set Shaders to Medium. (This is optional. The reason for this is due to the MASSIVE difference in quality. While LOW is preferred, most players are not willing to trade such an immense amount of graphical improvement for a high framerate.
Set Models to HIGH. (Optional. This let's you discern what unit is warping in. LOW gives you an identical box for all warping-in units)
Set Effects to Medium (Possibly. This can help with visibility of cloaked units and is not necessary.)
Set Movie Quality to high. This happens out-of-game and there's no reason to set it to low.
Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
Ballardinho
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 20:06:39
January 24 2012 18:54 GMT
#19
k I will PM you
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
January 24 2012 19:03 GMT
#20
Got your PM, I'll see you on Skype tonight
Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
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