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[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:38:31
January 03 2012 13:48 GMT
#1
Hi.

I've been having some problems with seeing horizontal lines on my screen during games, especially on darker backgrounds, for quite a while now. It all started a few months ago where I started noticing them in a steam game, where they would become quite noticeable when using the shift+tab overlay. It also become noticeable in SC2, mostly when looking over area with fog though, but still quite annoying.

At first I wasn't sure what the problem was, and as I was planning to get a new PC soon anyway I decided to let it be and see if that would fix it. I got my new PC along with Skyrim. The lines did not only continue being there when playing Starcraft 2, but they were also showing a lot when playing Skyrim, especially in dark areas of the game. As the PC was brand new I thought I had now located the problem to be my screen, it was old as well, so I figured I'd get it replaced soon. I first tried to get a new cable for it, bought a VGA>DVI as the screen only had VGA, but still didn't help.

Yesterday I then went out and bought a new screen, and this is where I'm getting really confused. I plugged it in, installed the required drivers, and went to test it out in Skyrim. To my joy the lines were now gone, and I finally thought I got rid of the problem, but that didn't last longer than until I went on to play some Starcraft 2 and saw that I still had theese horizontal lines going through my screen, still mostly noticeable at the areas with fog, but yet so annoying that I want to get rid of them.

I realize all of the above information may not be necessary, especially considering that all my hardware is new and that the problem is now only in Starcraft 2, but I thought I'd add it anyway to make sure I wasn't sitting with anything that might help solve the issue.

Obviously I've been trying to search around for solutions to this, looking at previous related problems in the tech support forum alongside several sites from google, but nothing has yet solved my problem.

So far I've tried the following solutions:
- Made sure that my graphic card drivers are up to date
- Tried with / without V-Sync
- Tried in different graphic settings (ranging from low to extreme)
- Tried different resolutions
- Tried both with and without windowed mode
- Removed Starcraft 2 from my computer and installed it again
- Made sure I don't have magnets near the screen that could interfere
- Launched a game in Starcraft 2 and unplugged everything beside the screen and power cable.
- I have a router in my room, tried turning it off while in a game vs the AI to see if it interferes

On the top of my head this is the options I've tested, though I may be missing some. I realize that some of them may seem silly, but I'm desperate to solve this and trying everything with even a slight possibility to work.

I also realize that only testing Skyrim and Starcraft 2 is a small sample, but currently I don't have any other games installed. Also considering that I no longer see them in Skyrim I think it's just some sort of settings problem within Starcraft 2, but I honestly can't figure out what.

I warmly welcome any sort of suggestions as I really want to fix this. From the small ones that I may just have missed and would make me look like a moron if it worked, or to the bigger ones that would require some more effort or testing. I'm open to any help and I just want this fixed.

Almost forgot to add my specs, here they are:
Windows 7 64-bit
Nvidia 560
i5-2005k 3.30ghz
8gb 1.600 DDR3
The screen is a Samsung S24A300B

Thanks for any help in advance.

Edit: Made sure to clarify throughout the entire OP that it happens in Starcraft 2 to avoid confusion.
Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
January 03 2012 15:00 GMT
#2
Are you really very sure you got your GPU and the GPU drivers both installed correctly?
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PandaTank
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 15:28:14
January 03 2012 15:26 GMT
#3
I had the same issue. At first I thought it was my graphics hard. However after getting a new computer it became obvious that it was my Samsung monitor. At first I only noticed it in Starcraft, but after a while I started seeing the lines in everything, including windows. So I bought a new monitor, and problem fixed.

Edit: For the record, I didn't have the exact same monitor as you. It was a Samsung 19" LCD.
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kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
January 03 2012 15:41 GMT
#4
It's probably your vsync/refresh rate settings. What resolution and refresh rate are you using?
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 15:55 GMT
#5
On January 04 2012 00:00 Lowko wrote:
Are you really very sure you got your GPU and the GPU drivers both installed correctly?


I received my PC prebuilt and with the drivers installed already. I also went to NVIDIA's homepage and asked it to detect my GPU and search for driver updates, and it said everything is updated. So yes, I'm pretty confident the drivers are installed correctly, but reinstalling the drivers may be worth a shot.

On January 04 2012 00:26 PandaTank wrote:
I had the same issue. At first I thought it was my graphics hard. However after getting a new computer it became obvious that it was my Samsung monitor. At first I only noticed it in Starcraft, but after a while I started seeing the lines in everything, including windows. So I bought a new monitor, and problem fixed.

Edit: For the record, I didn't have the exact same monitor as you. It was a Samsung 19" LCD.


I forgot to say in the OP, I also checked if they were visible with another screen I have(beside my screen with my old pc, which means I checked 3 now, though 1 of them surely doesn't work as intended any more), it's a really old one, so if it works properly is questionable, but I had the same issue in Starcraft as on my Samsung. Also I looked very carefully for the lines on other places, tried to put a black background on my desktop and I couldn't spot anything. Obviously it could still be the screen if you say it happenened over time, I hope it isn't though. If it is I surely want to get it back to the store ASAP.

On January 04 2012 00:41 kcbgoku wrote:
It's probably your vsync/refresh rate settings. What resolution and refresh rate are you using?

My refresh rate of the screen is 60 and is also set to 60 in windows and Starcraft. My resolution is 1920x1080.
kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
January 03 2012 17:11 GMT
#6
Try to set your resolution to 1440x900 and set your default refresh rate which is 75. See if it helps.
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:38:22
January 03 2012 17:20 GMT
#7
On January 04 2012 02:11 kcbgoku wrote:
Try to set your resolution to 1440x900 and set your default refresh rate which is 75. See if it helps.


I just went into Starcraft and changed resolution to 1440x900 and set the refresh rate to 75. It's still there. To make sure I also changed to the same settings in Windows (so both Windows and Starcraft were at 1440x900 and 75 at the same time), and they're still there.

Edit: Just thought I'd clarify in this post that it did afterall work with vertical sync enabled on 1440x900 and 75hz, with only very little of it left at the top of the screen. I do however still have the problem in 1920x1080, which is the resolution I want to use.
kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
January 03 2012 17:43 GMT
#8
Did you turn vsync on? If not, try it.
You may just have to live with this. That's the flaw of monitors with low refresh rate :/
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 03 2012 17:46 GMT
#9
On January 04 2012 02:43 kcbgoku wrote:
Did you turn vsync on? If not, try it.
You may just have to live with this. That's the flaw of monitors with low refresh rate :/


75 hz is not low. 60hz is standard. What are you talking about?
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eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
January 03 2012 17:54 GMT
#10
is your pc overclocked? i had that problem the second i overclocked my cpu a bit for some reason. maybe its that?
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kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
January 03 2012 18:08 GMT
#11
Actually 60 is very low.
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 18:09 GMT
#12
On January 04 2012 02:43 kcbgoku wrote:
Did you turn vsync on? If not, try it.
You may just have to live with this. That's the flaw of monitors with low refresh rate :/

I actually forgot to try with and without V-sync, and with V-sync it's a lot better, almost entirely gone. Still a little left in the top of the screen, but not as much, and a lot better than before. Now please tell me that this means there's a solution so I can play in high resolution without this, not that I would be forced to play in 1440x900 if I want it to be better? Would really defeat one of the main purposes of getting a new screen (beside getting rid of it in the first chase obviously.) I even asked about refresh rates in the store, and he ensured me I wouldn't have any problems with 60hz.

On January 04 2012 02:54 eu.exodus wrote:
is your pc overclocked? i had that problem the second i overclocked my cpu a bit for some reason. maybe its that?


I haven't overclocked anything.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:17:55
January 03 2012 18:17 GMT
#13
Ignore kcbgoku. 60hz is as standard a refresh rate as standard gets. Refresh rate of a monitor wouldnt lead to this kind of a graphical issue on its own anyway so I don't see the point in bringing up refresh rate at all except to make sure that the SC2 dropdown option lines up with the refresh rate of your monitor.

I mean 99 percent of us have a monitor with a vertical refresh of 60hz so blaming it on the rate is quite silly.

"very low" >.>
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greendestiny
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:23:43
January 03 2012 18:20 GMT
#14
I am not quite sure it is the same thing as the problem I had when I downloaded the digital SC anthology from Bnet, but it sounds right (I also noticed horizontal line traveling as if a waterfall is cascading down the screen, most noticeable in fog of war). My friend came and wanted to set my monitor's refresh rate to the maximum possible (100 Hz) but I didn't allow it, instead we went for 90 Hz through Desktop's Properties>Settings>Monitor and the problem seems to have gone away.
I have Windows XP SP3.
Hope this gives you some information which eventually leads you to resolving the issue.
Edit: Misread the OP, thought it was referring to BW.
Edit #2: I have the box "Hide modes this monitor can't display" checked, so I know I can experiment with refresh rates without fear I will damage it
How I appear to you is a reflection of you, not me.
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:40:17
January 03 2012 18:37 GMT
#15
On January 04 2012 03:17 Medrea wrote:
Ignore kcbgoku. 60hz is as standard a refresh rate as standard gets. Refresh rate of a monitor wouldnt lead to this kind of a graphical issue on its own anyway so I don't see the point in bringing up refresh rate at all except to make sure that the SC2 dropdown option lines up with the refresh rate of your monitor.

I mean 99 percent of us have a monitor with a vertical refresh of 60hz so blaming it on the rate is quite silly.

"very low" >.>


My old screen was also at 60hz, and having played SC2 since release and only noticing it a few months ago I can see it would be odd that 60hz would be the problem. I have however also bought a new PC since then, I have no idea if that could have any impact. (Meaning that I had problems in SC2 with both my old and new pc as stated in the OP)

On January 04 2012 03:20 greendestiny wrote:
I am not quite sure it is the same thing as the problem I had when I downloaded the digital SC anthology from Bnet, but it sounds right (I also noticed horizontal line traveling as if a waterfall is cascading down the screen, most noticeable in fog of war). My friend came and wanted to set my monitor's refresh rate to the maximum possible (100 Hz) but I didn't allow it, instead we went for 90 Hz through Desktop's Properties>Settings>Monitor and the problem seems to have gone away.
I have Windows XP SP3.
Hope this gives you some information which eventually leads you to resolving the issue.
Edit: Misread the OP, thought it was referring to BW.
Edit #2: I have the box "Hide modes this monitor can't display" checked, so I know I can experiment with refresh rates without fear I will damage it


When going into options at the desktop it wont allow me to take it higher than 60, (59 and 60 being the only option), while still having my resolution at 1920x1080. I'm not willing to compromise with the resolution, as it was one of the reasons I wanted a new screen.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 03 2012 18:42 GMT
#16
If everything is completely new and nothing is a hold over. Like Graphics card. Then I find it unusual that the exact same problem manifested itself for you.

There is absolutely nothing in common between these two PC's?
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[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 18:50 GMT
#17
On January 04 2012 03:42 Medrea wrote:
If everything is completely new and nothing is a hold over. Like Graphics card. Then I find it unusual that the exact same problem manifested itself for you.

There is absolutely nothing in common between these two PC's?


As said in the OP I did have problems with it in Starcraft 2 and in steam games, especially when looking at the shift+tab overlay with my old PC, then got a new PC where I still had it in Starcraft 2. I also bought Skyrim for my new PC, which had the problem as well. I can't say if my old PC would have problems in Skyrim, as it can't run it (but I assume it would as it had problems with steam overlay). I then got my new screen yesterday and it removed the problem in Skyrim, but it remained in Starcraft 2. That makes me think my old screen did indeed have problems, and I don't think my current issues are related with the previous, but I thought I'd add it to the OP anyway just in case. Currently I can only confirm that I have problems in Starcraft 2. Nothing inside the PC is from my old one. The only things I currently use and also used on my old PC is my mouse, keyboard and headset.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:56:24
January 03 2012 18:55 GMT
#18
This is kind of a longshot but it is possible you might have a lot of interference in the area you live. Is there someone living around you that is a radio enthusiast or something?

I dunno i once had a problem where a guy across the street owned a transmitter and when he jumped the power up it would scramble everything in my apartment. Even my wired devices would stop working.

Even that wouldn't be 24/7 though...and it would be across everything. Strange.
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kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
January 03 2012 19:11 GMT
#19
People have trouble reading. I didn't say 60 isn't standard. I use 60 myself, however I doubt there are monitors with vertical refresh rate lower than 55Hz in production. Also I'm sure that there are monitors with at least 120Hz so in 55-120 range, 60 seems pretty low doesn't it?

Imo you see those "lines" because your 60Hz refresh rate is too low for your eyes to ignore them and unfortunately I don't think there is a solution for this.
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 19:14 GMT
#20
On January 04 2012 03:55 Medrea wrote:
This is kind of a longshot but it is possible you might have a lot of interference in the area you live. Is there someone living around you that is a radio enthusiast or something?

I dunno i once had a problem where a guy across the street owned a transmitter and when he jumped the power up it would scramble everything in my apartment. Even my wired devices would stop working.

Even that wouldn't be 24/7 though...and it would be across everything. Strange.


I'm quite sure there's no radio enthusiast living nearby, or anything else giving interference. With the new screen, it's also only happening in Starcraft and it's constant. The desktop, teamliquid page, etc, is fine. And as said Skyrim also used to have problems but it dissapeared with the new screen (and I can confirm this 100%, i looked very carefully for just the slighest problem in it, and the lines that used to be there with the old screen were very clear and almost impossible to miss). So I don't think my current problems are related to the previous, though I also found it very odd when I saw lines in Starcraft 2 again on my new screen, and I can fully understand why it sounds very weird as well.
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 19:42:27
January 03 2012 19:22 GMT
#21
On January 04 2012 04:11 kcbgoku wrote:
People have trouble reading. I didn't say 60 isn't standard. I use 60 myself, however I doubt there are monitors with vertical refresh rate lower than 55Hz in production. Also I'm sure that there are monitors with at least 120Hz so in 55-120 range, 60 seems pretty low doesn't it?

Imo you see those "lines" because your 60Hz refresh rate is too low for your eyes to ignore them and unfortunately I don't think there is a solution for this.


I have also had another person looking at my new screen, who also see's the lines in SC2. Do you mean that my eyes specifically would need a higher refresh rate, or that it's just too low in general? If it was too low in general I'd assume it would be a more common problem, and I haven't heard of many other having the issue in SC2 only (when trying to search for solution). I also doubt our eyes are that good.

It's also worth to note that my old screen was also 60hz (I don't remember the resolution excactly but it was in the 1600's x something), and while it is possible I missed them for a long time, I didn't notice them on it until a few months ago (when other games started messing up as well due to the screen getting bad), so I don't think it's the problem. This is not to say the problems on my old and new screen are related, I still don't think they are, but rather just to say I don't think I would have any problems with 60hz.

silent_marauder24
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada24 Posts
January 03 2012 19:40 GMT
#22
1. If you still have the old cable for video then swap that out with new monitor and new pc
2. Swap old monitor out on new and old cable on new pc

Refresh rate being too low would only be a valid point if we were talking about crt monitors, and even then that would be based on its screen size.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 03 2012 20:00 GMT
#23
On January 04 2012 04:11 kcbgoku wrote:
Imo you see those "lines" because your 60Hz refresh rate is too low for your eyes to ignore them and unfortunately I don't think there is a solution for this.


ಠ_ಠ

Stop.
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kcbgoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland156 Posts
January 03 2012 20:09 GMT
#24
Well Medrea if I'm totally wrong, would you be so kind and explain it to me why on my Iiyama prolite e1902sw I have the same issue on 60Hz, but when I set it to 75Hz I don't? I'm curious of your professional opinion.

I guess my neighbour is radio enthusiast and he turns it on and off everytime I change my refresh rate...
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:14:38
January 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#25
On January 04 2012 05:09 kcbgoku wrote:
Well Medrea if I'm totally wrong, would you be so kind and explain it to me why on my Iiyama prolite e1902sw I have the same issue on 60Hz, but when I set it to 75Hz I don't? I'm curious of your professional opinion.

I guess my neighbour is radio enthusiast and he turns it on and off everytime I change my refresh rate...


It isn't your eyes.

Because that's not how LCD's work.
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[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 20:23 GMT
#26
On January 04 2012 04:40 silent_marauder24 wrote:
1. If you still have the old cable for video then swap that out with new monitor and new pc
2. Swap old monitor out on new and old cable on new pc

Refresh rate being too low would only be a valid point if we were talking about crt monitors, and even then that would be based on its screen size.


I tried swapping around the cables and it's the same. Skyrim being good and Starcraft having the lines. I'm not sure if I understand you correctly with 2, as that's how it was before I bought the new, unless you just want a confirmation it's still the same.

During this I however noticed that there's a difference from having Starcraft in windowed full screen and having it in full screen, that being that there's more lines in windowed, but still some left in full screen, so there's still a problem. (I know I stated I tried this in the OP and I'm sorry for not checking it better)

However, when I turned on my PC after putting my new cable back in everything would appear with a "green touch" on it. The login, the windows startup, etc basically green light on everything. After readjusting the cable it still happened, and after readjusting again it turned back to normal. It also had some problems finding the signal. I'm thinking I should just take this screen back to the store, (mainly based on the green stuff just now happening).
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:31:25
January 03 2012 20:26 GMT
#27
Mmmm. If I just take the current problems into consideration I would think that something is/could be defective with the graphics card. The fact that similar problems were happening with the old configuration is just stumping me.

Try with a friends monitor? I am assuming all connections are also solid.
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[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 20:37 GMT
#28
On January 04 2012 05:26 Medrea wrote:
Mmmm. If I just take the current problems into consideration I would think that something is/could be defective with the graphics card. The fact that similar problems were happening with the old configuration is just stumping me.

Try with a friends monitor?


I'm sorry if I misunderstand you, but I just want to make clear that there's nothing hardware related between my previous and current problems. It's a brand new prebuilt PC I haven't even opened myself. Skyrim runs without a problem on high settings now(and has done since I got the pc, beside the lines that the new screen fixed and limited to Starcraft 2), would such problem only appear in a much less demanding game as Starcraft 2? I personally believe it's pure coincidence that I have similar problems with my new pc / screen, as they're now limited to Starcraft 2 only. I'm sorry, I know I've already said this, and I'm not at all having a lot of knowledge on this area, but I don't understand how it could be the graphic card based on my situation. Is it the green light that makes you say it? I've had this PC for about 2 months now, and I haven't had anything similar to what just happened on it before just now.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:51:13
January 03 2012 20:43 GMT
#29
On January 04 2012 05:37 [Instinct] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:26 Medrea wrote:
Mmmm. If I just take the current problems into consideration I would think that something is/could be defective with the graphics card. The fact that similar problems were happening with the old configuration is just stumping me.

Try with a friends monitor?


I'm sorry if I misunderstand you, but I just want to make clear that there's nothing hardware related between my previous and current problems. It's a brand new prebuilt PC I haven't even opened myself. Skyrim runs without a problem on high settings now(and has done since I got the pc, beside the lines that the new screen fixed and limited to Starcraft 2), would such problem only appear in a much less demanding game as Starcraft 2? I personally believe it's pure coincidence that I have similar problems with my new pc / screen, as they're now limited to Starcraft 2 only. I'm sorry, I know I've already said this, and I'm not at all having a lot of knowledge on this area, but I don't understand how it could be the graphic card based on my situation. Is it the green light that makes you say it? I've had this PC for about 2 months now, and I haven't had anything similar to what just happened on it before just now.


No, yeah you were completely clear, thats what is throwing us for a loop actually. And I do think it is coincidence and I could definitely see the problem being the monitor, especially if a green saturation is making itself known on POST screens and BIOS and all that. A friends monitor would help you nail it down as the final variable however, as a busted GPU could also be, coincidentally, a problem.

It's rare to have the same problem twice across two completely different computers back to back.

That's why we are trying to draw similarities between the two computers. And coming up with goofy shit, like radio interference, and.....your eyes.
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Alvin853
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany149 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:56:13
January 03 2012 20:51 GMT
#30
since there's a lot of guessing going on, maybe you can answer some of these questions to narrow down the problem:

What do the lines look like?
also how do you notice there are lines? are there different frames above and below the line? or are the lines in different color (strange colors like black, pink, green) or lighter/darker pixels than they should be?
are the lines only 1 pixel thick? do they move around or always stay in the same place?
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 21:01 GMT
#31
On January 04 2012 05:43 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:37 [Instinct] wrote:
On January 04 2012 05:26 Medrea wrote:
Mmmm. If I just take the current problems into consideration I would think that something is/could be defective with the graphics card. The fact that similar problems were happening with the old configuration is just stumping me.

Try with a friends monitor?


I'm sorry if I misunderstand you, but I just want to make clear that there's nothing hardware related between my previous and current problems. It's a brand new prebuilt PC I haven't even opened myself. Skyrim runs without a problem on high settings now(and has done since I got the pc, beside the lines that the new screen fixed and limited to Starcraft 2), would such problem only appear in a much less demanding game as Starcraft 2? I personally believe it's pure coincidence that I have similar problems with my new pc / screen, as they're now limited to Starcraft 2 only. I'm sorry, I know I've already said this, and I'm not at all having a lot of knowledge on this area, but I don't understand how it could be the graphic card based on my situation. Is it the green light that makes you say it? I've had this PC for about 2 months now, and I haven't had anything similar to what just happened on it before just now.


No, yeah you were completely clear, thats what is throwing us for a loop actually. And I do think it is coincidence and I could definitely see the problem being the monitor, especially if a green saturation is making itself known on POST screens and BIOS and all that. A friends monitor would help you nail it down as the final variable however, as a busted GPU could also be, coincidentally, a problem.

It's rare to have the same problem twice across two completely different computers back to back.

That's why we are trying to draw similarities between the two computers.


I realize it's very rare and I also know how weird my problems sound, they're also quite confusing to me, which is why I ended up asking for help here after trying to deal with it myself for a while. I see how a friends screen would be a good call to see if it is indeed my new screen or not, and I was probably just too quick to rule out the graphic card as skyrim was fine now.

I did also try it on a third screen, a really old one, probably around 6 years old by now, and it did also have the same problem. However based on it's age I don't consider it the best source, but the problem did seem similar to the one on the new. I'm not sure how quickly it'd be possible for me to try on a friends screen which I'm 100% sure works. The green light is scaring me a little, if it is the screen I'd have to get it back to the store fast, while I can still get it changed easily without a problem. I'm not sure if I can wait to try on a friends screen.

I also just want to say I appreciate your time and help a lot, that goes for all the replies, and I hope to get this solved soon.
[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 21:08 GMT
#32
On January 04 2012 05:51 Alvin853 wrote:
since there's a lot of guessing going on, maybe you can answer some of these questions to narrow down the problem:

What do the lines look like?
also how do you notice there are lines? are there different frames above and below the line? or are the lines in different color (strange colors like black, pink, green) or lighter/darker pixels than they should be?
are the lines only 1 pixel thick? do they move around or always stay in the same place?


It's actually quite hard to describe, I can't look at them right now, so this is how I recall it.

The lines really just look like a normal straight line, going horizontal across the screen. As said it's mostly noticeable on darker areas, and the lines are very bright, white. The lines move constantly, I'm actually not entirely sure about the pattern, but I believe it's from bottom to top. I don't think there's different frames above or below, it's just the line itself. They also move quite fast. I'm honestly not qualified to say whether or not they're 1 pixel thick, I have no idea how to measure that, but they're somewhat thin and there's many of them.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 03 2012 21:20 GMT
#33
And you are sure you arent this guy?

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[Instinct]
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark24 Posts
January 03 2012 21:34 GMT
#34
On January 04 2012 06:20 Medrea wrote:
And you are sure you arent this guy?

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I'm afraid I can't answer that question on a public forum.

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No, I'm not


However, as said, currently I think my safest bet is to take it back, especially considering this green light, I really don't like it. I just realized I read about someone having green tint issue with the screen before buying it, but I couldn't find a lot on it, so I figured it probably wasn't something too common. Seems I may be attracting PC related problems?

I want to thank everyone for their time and help, and I apologize for basically wasting your time, now that I'm ending up returning it because of the green. I'll however return if I end up having problems again.
Alvin853
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany149 Posts
January 03 2012 21:34 GMT
#35
On January 04 2012 06:08 [Instinct] wrote:
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On January 04 2012 05:51 Alvin853 wrote:
since there's a lot of guessing going on, maybe you can answer some of these questions to narrow down the problem:

What do the lines look like?
also how do you notice there are lines? are there different frames above and below the line? or are the lines in different color (strange colors like black, pink, green) or lighter/darker pixels than they should be?
are the lines only 1 pixel thick? do they move around or always stay in the same place?


It's actually quite hard to describe, I can't look at them right now, so this is how I recall it.

The lines really just look like a normal straight line, going horizontal across the screen. As said it's mostly noticeable on darker areas, and the lines are very bright, white. The lines move constantly, I'm actually not entirely sure about the pattern, but I believe it's from bottom to top. I don't think there's different frames above or below, it's just the line itself. They also move quite fast. I'm honestly not qualified to say whether or not they're 1 pixel thick, I have no idea how to measure that, but they're somewhat thin and there's many of them.


sounds like a hardware problem to me, so i'll continue to ask questions if you don't mind:
you mentioned you used a vga cable and/or a dvi->vga... are you still on vga with the new monitor? if so can you get a dvi cable to see if that changes anything?
do you know what exact model your graphics card and mainboard are?
also can you monitor the temperatues of your graphics card?
are the computer and the monitor powered off the same wall outlet? if yes can you plug one/both of them into different outlets and check if it affects anything?

one more thing: go to your nvidia control panel, click help -> system information, then save and post the output here (you can leave out your system name if you feel it's too personal)
silent_marauder24
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada24 Posts
January 03 2012 21:51 GMT
#36
On January 04 2012 05:23 [Instinct] wrote:
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On January 04 2012 04:40 silent_marauder24 wrote:
1. If you still have the old cable for video then swap that out with new monitor and new pc
2. Swap old monitor out on new and old cable on new pc

Refresh rate being too low would only be a valid point if we were talking about crt monitors, and even then that would be based on its screen size.


I tried swapping around the cables and it's the same. Skyrim being good and Starcraft having the lines. I'm not sure if I understand you correctly with 2, as that's how it was before I bought the new, unless you just want a confirmation it's still the same.

During this I however noticed that there's a difference from having Starcraft in windowed full screen and having it in full screen, that being that there's more lines in windowed, but still some left in full screen, so there's still a problem. (I know I stated I tried this in the OP and I'm sorry for not checking it better)

However, when I turned on my PC after putting my new cable back in everything would appear with a "green touch" on it. The login, the windows startup, etc basically green light on everything. After readjusting the cable it still happened, and after readjusting again it turned back to normal. It also had some problems finding the signal. I'm thinking I should just take this screen back to the store, (mainly based on the green stuff just now happening).


The green haze is generally caused by an improperly seated video cord, although not exclusively. But ive seen it a few times to of been caused by that. Blueish tinge is generally caused by the cold cathode going bad if im not mistaken (food for thought <_<).

Since your video card has more then 1 output try switching that. Also try reseting to factory settings on the monitor if you have not done that. Since this happened on your old monitor as well im hesitant to say to take back the monitor. But this is a toughie.
Tefel
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland67 Posts
July 28 2012 16:17 GMT
#37
I have exactly the same problem. I've tried everything. I put my graphic card into my other computer and it seems its not graphic card issue. I've tried switch cables from last monitor (power and data). I've tried put my old one graphic card and is a little bit better but still problem occur. When i turn vertical sync on lines stop moving but still i can see lines what is irritating... I've tried few monitors, even i connect it to my TV and it didnt help.
I've tried 8 cores of cpu 100% performance and i think cpu is fine. Same with testing ssd disk it works fine.
Graphic tests doesnt show any problems. Right now i am really confused.

When i have very small sc2 window (display mode windowed) i see these lines outside the window.

I think problem is not rare. I still dont know what can be cause of this.

My hardware spec:

ssd: Samsung ssd 830
gpu GeForce GTX 560 Ti
cpu i7-2600k
ram: 8gb
monitor: BenQ GAMING RL2450HT
system: Windows 7 64bit

I am start thinking about installing windows XP and one more time sc2. I just dont have any other ideas.
http://www.twitch.tv/tefel
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
July 28 2012 16:48 GMT
#38
There are a lot of different problems that can be described as "horizontal lines", so let's narrow it down a bit.

1. In what applications do they appear? If in SC2, in what part of the screen?
2. Do they cover the entire horizontal extent of the screen, or just part?
3. What colour are they?
4. Do they move? If so, how and how fast?
5. Do they appear in screenshots?

Tefel
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland67 Posts
July 28 2012 17:14 GMT
#39
1. Every part but is more visible when is darker
2. It cover all screen even if its windowed it cover some part of desktop.
3. gray
4. yes it move from bottom to top or from top to bottom it depends where my cursor is on the map When i turn on v-sync lines stop but still are visible.
5. Nope. When i am doing screenshot view is clear for 2 sec and screenshot is same clear.

Examples:
http://czarnyj.poczta.rybnik.pl/sc2/vid1.mp4
http://czarnyj.poczta.rybnik.pl/sc2/vid2.mp4
http://www.twitch.tv/tefel
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
July 28 2012 19:45 GMT
#40
That's interference, possibly from an external source. Are you using VGA or something else?

Disconnect all nearby non-essential electrical devices including CFL lamps. Try moving the screen around and see if the problem is reduced.

Tefel
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 19:57:43
July 28 2012 19:51 GMT
#41
Hmm wired becouse i've moved my computer to 3-4 places already with other power supply. Is it possible everywhere in my house is same dirty power? Why my other coumputer with the same graphic card and monitor works fine?

Yes i am using VGA, but i was wondering if 4ex hdmi can help becouse i have input.
http://www.twitch.tv/tefel
Pusekatten
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway234 Posts
July 28 2012 20:11 GMT
#42
Looks like you.got some sort of.screen tearing, try forcing tripple buffer with v-sync.It will give you a little more innput lag, but will hopefully fix the problem.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
July 28 2012 20:27 GMT
#43
On July 29 2012 04:51 Tefel wrote:
Hmm wired becouse i've moved my computer to 3-4 places already with other power supply. Is it possible everywhere in my house is same dirty power? Why my other coumputer with the same graphic card and monitor works fine?

In that case it's likely that the source of interference is a component in the computer.

On July 29 2012 04:51 Tefel wrote:
Yes i am using VGA, but i was wondering if 4ex hdmi can help becouse i have input.

With an interference problem the first thing to try is a digital connection. DVI or HDMI will do.

Tefel
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland67 Posts
July 28 2012 20:52 GMT
#44
OK i solved it!! I've plug in my computer in 2nd room, other supply. Monitor and other things are still plug in here. It means it was too much for all things that why i needed additional supply. I've tried something similar many times but now it works. Thanks for making me sure about supply problem.
http://www.twitch.tv/tefel
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
October 03 2012 08:52 GMT
#45
I have the same problem as tefel but it fixes itself when I turn vsync on. So is it a problem with my monitor or my GPU? The extra input lag from vsync is noticeable and I don't want to keep it on
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
October 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#46
Looks like it was the monitor. The cable was a d-sub to dvi-i, swapped it out for dvi-d to dvi-d
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