EPTI've read a lot of the guides on mechanical keyboards posted here and I know what the good models are, but I'd like to hear what other peoples experiences with different swolitch types have been, what they prefer for sc2, and why.
Cherry black switches vs. brown and blue
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
I've read a lot of the guides on mechanical keyboards posted here and I know what the good models are, but I'd like to hear what other peoples experiences with different swolitch types have been, what they prefer for sc2, and why. | ||
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Medrea
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DjRetro
Chile309 Posts
Seriously, that's the reason why they cost more comparing with others. Although brown and blue are great switches too. | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
Browns- Everything that a blue has except for a slightly lighter actuation force of 45g and is missing that nice and crisp *click* sound. Most people will point you toward these, although i would point you to the Blues instead. With the browns, you are able to float on it, although it shouldn't make too much of a difference. Blacks- Linear force switches mean that they don't have a bump or any tactile response, and require more force to actuate them (70g to actuate). Most people say that these are hard to get used to if you don't have already forceful fingers and might cause fatigue, although after a few days those users who don't RMA them say that these are one of the best switches. Red- Like browns, but without the bump. If you've tried and used a MX Brown keyboard like I have, you probably wanted to not have the bump in there at all since it makes the key feel a bit weird and i guess "sandy" in a way, because you would expect something to have such a low actuation force to be ultra smooth. Reds take away the bump and instead become something like Blacks but with 45G needed to actuate the key, and are usually considered as one of the rarest Cherry switches next to clears( these are sooo hard to find nowdays). If i were you , i would grab a Red, possibly a Majestouch 2 with reds, a KBC Poker with Reds (both around $140-150), or if you wanna take a bit of a risk go for that Rosewill RK-9000RE (even though its from the same OEM manufacture as Filco) because half the reviews on newegg say that they have a super annoying squeaky space bar (that is apparently fixable without the need to RMA it). I'm actually thinking of grabbing a Rosewill since I'm short in money. I had a Razer BlackWidow exactly one year ago, and it broke within two weeks .__. R.I.P. Once you've gone mechanical, you'll never look back. | ||
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MaestrO_
United States591 Posts
Unfortunately they're hard to find, they don't make red switches anymore, so they're going to be more expensive. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
An idea on what pressuring each switch is like. Easy to see why Blue gives the feel it does. And you can float a blue with practice as well. http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide Good reading. | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
Personally I don't like brown switches. For gaming I prefer blues, which are a tad stiffer than browns and have that nice click which I really enjoy. The double tapping problem is not really an issue for Starcraft. I like reds and buckling springs for SC2 as well. On December 17 2011 15:03 LanTAs wrote: If i were you , i would grab a Red, possibly a Majestouch 2 with reds, a KBC Poker with Reds (both around $140-150), or if you wanna take a bit of a risk go for that Rosewill RK-9000RE (even though its from the same OEM manufacture as Filco) because half the reviews on newegg say that they have a super annoying squeaky space bar (that is apparently fixable without the need to RMA it). Pokers can be had for much less than $140. In geekhack.org's classifieds section they typically sell used for $80 - $100 shipped. You can get them new on ebay for a bit more. I wouldn't recommend the Poker for Starcraft though, due to its compact layout and function layer. The Rosewill is not a risk at all at $100 on Newegg. A lot of mechanical keyboards squeak. A small amount of white lithium grease from an auto supply store (< $5) will fix it. On December 17 2011 15:23 MaestrO_ wrote: Unfortunately they're hard to find, they don't make red switches anymore, so they're going to be more expensive. Reds are no longer hard to find! Rosewills and Leopolds and Pokers are plentiful. | ||
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DjRetro
Chile309 Posts
Coming soon in the U.S! A great RED-keyboard :D | ||
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
On December 17 2011 14:48 -Trippin- wrote: The other day I purchased a steel series keyboard with cherry black switches and thus far I am a bit disappointed. The keys feel like they take too much force to press and I feel as though this has an effect on my apm. In the store, where I tested it, my first thought was that I'd get used to it. But unfortunately I just can't. It's just so uncomfortable when spamming different keys quickly. I've read a lot of the guides on mechanical keyboards posted here and I know what the good models are, but I'd like to hear what other peoples experiences with different swolitch types have been, what they prefer for sc2, and why. Yeah, that's natural. You've only had them for two days. It took me around 4-5 days of constant play to get used to them. They do take a bit of force to use. Doesn't mean your hands won't grow those muscles in time  | ||
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Medrea
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
On December 17 2011 15:24 Medrea wrote: + Show Spoiler + An idea on what pressuring each switch is like. Easy to see why Blue gives the feel it does. And you can float a blue with practice as well. http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide Good reading. Looking at that makes me think that clears and browns are the best with practice. My first thought when looking at blues is that it may have an issue when quickly spamming a key in that it might not register every time you hit it in quick succession. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:16 Shikyo wrote: Why not just reds? =P I think that the bump is very important. It would save a ton (very marginal amount) of apm if I could know how far I actually need to press the keys for them to register. I think that the fact I have to hit the blacks all the way does well for accuracy in that I wont make a mistake as easily (which might be great for FPS games or Moba type games), but the reality of it is that in starcraft speed and accuracy is needed. Blacks are just so terrible in my opinion, and I don't see the appeal to reds beside the fact that they might be a bit easier to press. To be honest, I don't really even see the point of getting a mechanical keyboard at all if it is going to have a linear switch. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me seeing as how I am going to bottom out on a linear switch whether it be a membrane or mechanical keyboard... and Black switches definitely don't feel better and that's for sure. | ||
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iScH
United States48 Posts
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:24 Ph4z3d wrote: I've been using a Steelseries 6gv2 for about a year now, and as much as I do love this keyboard, I have used keyboards with blue switches, and honestly I love the blue switches over black and brown, I just don't have money to buy another keyboard at the moment xD Can you tell me a bit about the pros and cons you have found with black switches over prolonged use? What makes you like the blue switches more? Do you think that black switches are the clear favorite for non-RTS type games despite your blue switch preference (the reason I ask this is because I still have 10 days to return my black switch keyboard and I am considering just keeping it anyway just in-case, possibly to use it when I travel or in the university library when I want to play sc2 there)? | ||
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carlton1shot
United States23 Posts
i guess i'll be buying a DASkeyboard w/ brown/blue switches. | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:13 -Trippin- wrote: Looking at that makes me think that clears and browns are the best with practice. My first thought when looking at blues is that it may have an issue when quickly spamming a key in that it might not register every time you hit it in quick succession. You're talking about the doubletapping problem that I and others mentioned. Blues have zero issues with spamming. Doubletapping is not the same as repeatedly hitting the keys in quick succession. Doubletapping is floating the switches right above the actuation point and repeatedly hitting it. Blues do make this harder to do than other switch types (though not impossible). Fortunately you don't need or even really want to do that in Starcraft. If you like the blues for other reasons, the doubletapping thing is a non-issue. | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:42 Hashbaz wrote: You're talking about the doubletapping problem that I and others mentioned. Blues have zero issues with spamming. Doubletapping is not the same as repeatedly hitting the keys in quick succession. Doubletapping is floating the switches right above the actuation point and repeatedly hitting it. Blues do make this harder to do than other switch types (though not impossible). Fortunately you don't need or even really want to do that in Starcraft. If you like the blues for other reasons, the doubletapping thing is a non-issue. But if you were to just hit the key down all the way anyway, that obviously wouldn't even be a problem. I can't see many instances in which I would ever float anyway, in any game. The thing I liked about the blue switches was the feel of them, so I guess that seems like the one for me thus far. | ||
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arena_say_what
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ETisME
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Black sounds a bit too dull for me might try a red soon but so far, blue is my fav one | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:20 -Trippin- wrote: I think that the bump is very important. It would save a ton (very marginal amount) of apm if I could know how far I actually need to press the keys for them to register. I think that the fact I have to hit the blacks all the way does well for accuracy in that I wont make a mistake as easily (which might be great for FPS games or Moba type games), but the reality of it is that in starcraft speed and accuracy is needed. Blacks are just so terrible in my opinion, and I don't see the appeal to reds beside the fact that they might be a bit easier to press. To be honest, I don't really even see the point of getting a mechanical keyboard at all if it is going to have a linear switch. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me seeing as how I am going to bottom out on a linear switch whether it be a membrane or mechanical keyboard... and Black switches definitely don't feel better and that's for sure. Rubber dome keyboards are tactile, not linear. And one of the main draws of linear switches is that they make it easier to avoid bottoming out (with practice). Tactility is not going to net you any APM. It wouldn't net Jaedong APM either. Switch choice is not about improving your game mechanically, it is about improving the feel and enjoyment of using the keyboard. There's no "best" switch for gaming, there is only your preference. The tiny advantages the switches grant (like doubletapping on linear switches) are dwarfed by the importance of how much you like their feel. I feel like you are being influenced by confirmation bias. Blacks are a great option for some, but apparently not for you. You've dismissed reds here without even trying them. My suggestion would be to return the Steelseries since you can, and try a different switch type. | ||
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NET
United States703 Posts
I own both black and brown 10 key-less filco boards (My blacks are the 1st series and my browns are the 2nd series ninja edition (Dunno if there is a huge difference between the 1 and the 2 series but just stating for general purposes). I've used the Black Widow Ultimate blue switches as well as the 6GV2 blacks. Here are my experiences with my boards. I wore my blacks in pretty well after about a year of use and they are actually lighter than my friend's newer steel series black switches. I would slam the hell out of them in the heat of battle and they feel like they can take a beating(and they do). The lighter feel after a period of time made it a bit easier to press, so I can imagine the reds being pretty nice. All the same, if you have black switches, after some brutal use with em I say they get nicer over time, similar to a fine wine. Ages ahead of any membrane keyboard. Also typing on blacks is like typing on a cloud... at least that's the feeling I always got from typing on them. I got used to the linear feel of the blacks and then went to browns. Browns were a bit weird at first, but I finally got used to them. I used the blues prior to buying the browns, but the clicks seemed a bit over the top for me. I wasn't getting a keyboard to type as if it were a type writer, I was getting it for sc. Most of my gaming is done in the peak hours of the night so having a quieter keyboard is always a plus for me. The funny thing is my friend who went straight to browns from a membrane doesn't really feel the tactile bump of the browns for being so soft compared to a standard keyboard. I on the other hand, coming from a linear board, can appreciate the light tactile feedback of the browns. Final thoughts: Any mechanical board is a winner in my book. If you want to go for more accuracy and don't care much about little more force, I say go with the blacks. Or if you like to bottom out your keys I would say go with blacks or reds. If you want more speed(and in turn possibly less accuracy) and still wanna feel a slight bump to know when you pressed the key, then go for browns(unless you came from a membrane keyboard, then go for the slightly stronger blues). Probably not the best source for a mech keyboard, just sharing my thoughts and experiences. | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:52 -Trippin- wrote: All of these replies have a helped a lot so far, thanks. It would be awesome if I could hear some detail as to what you guys like about your blues in comparison to your blacks, however! :D Have you read through this thread? There is page after page of discussion there about the switch types and why people like and dislike them. | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:53 Hashbaz wrote: Rubber dome keyboards are tactile, not linear. And one of the main draws of linear switches is that they make it easier to avoid bottoming out (with practice). Tactility is not going to net you any APM. It wouldn't net Jaedong APM either. Switch choice is not about improving your game mechanically, it is about improving the feel and enjoyment of using the keyboard. There's no "best" switch for gaming, there is only your preference. The tiny advantages the switches grant (like doubletapping on linear switches) are dwarfed by the importance of how much you like their feel. I feel like you are being influenced by confirmation bias. Blacks are a great option for some, but apparently not for you. You've dismissed reds here without even trying them. My suggestion would be to return the Steelseries since you can, and try a different switch type. Well the feel is very important to me and that's what I'm going for right now. I'm a high Master level player right now so I know that it's not going to makes me Grandmaster level instantly, but to be honest I really do think it's going to make me a better player. Comfort is really important in order to keep your mind clear and focused in my opinion, and my membrane keyboard prior to this one with black switches was terrible for that. The black switches have noticeably made me less prone to making mistakes (hitting the wrong key), I have found. But this is also given that my last keyboard was so bad that each key hit down with a different sensitivity and some would barely even register at all. Unfortunately there are only these steelseries keyboards as well as another blue switch keyboard where I bought this one. There are literally no other stores that sell them for 100 miles. I liked the feel of blue, I liked how it was clicky and easy to tell when the key has activated. I also liked how it was easy to press and didn't take much pressure at all. I'm afraid reds will be too similar to blacks in that they will feel like a chore to actually hit the button. I really wish I could try red switches hands on because if they are easy to actually activate in comparison with blacks, they may very well be the best. On December 17 2011 22:55 NET wrote: Background: I own both black and brown 10 key-less filco boards (My blacks are the 1st series and my browns are the 2nd series ninja edition (Dunno if there is a huge difference between the 1 and the 2 series but just stating for general purposes). I've used the Black Widow Ultimate blue switches as well as the 6GV2 blacks. Here are my experiences with my boards. I wore my blacks in pretty well after about a year of use and they are actually lighter than my friend's newer steel series black switches. I would slam the hell out of them in the heat of battle and they feel like they can take a beating(and they do). The lighter feel after a period of time made it a bit easier to press, so I can imagine the reds being pretty nice. All the same, if you have black switches, after some brutal use with em I say they get nicer over time, similar to a fine wine. Ages ahead of any membrane keyboard. Also typing on blacks is like typing on a cloud... at least that's the feeling I always got from typing on them. I got used to the linear feel of the blacks and then went to browns. Browns were a bit weird at first, but I finally got used to them. I used the blues prior to buying the browns, but the clicks seemed a bit over the top for me. I wasn't getting a keyboard to type as if it were a type writer, I was getting it for sc. Most of my gaming is done in the peak hours of the night so having a quieter keyboard is always a plus for me. The funny thing is my friend who went straight to browns from a membrane doesn't really feel the tactile bump of the browns for being so soft compared to a standard keyboard. I on the other hand, coming from a linear board, can appreciate the light tactile feedback of the browns. Final thoughts: Any mechanical board is a winner in my book. If you want to go for more accuracy and don't care much about little more force, I say go with the blacks. Or if you like to bottom out your keys I would say go with blacks or reds. If you want more speed(and in turn possibly less accuracy) and still wanna feel a slight bump to know when you pressed the key, then go for browns(unless you came from a membrane keyboard, then go for the slightly stronger blues). Probably not the best source for a mech keyboard, just sharing my thoughts and experiences. That's actually really helpful man, thanks. I was thinking that blacks may just take a lot of getting used to, but none the less I can see it fatiguing me after long sessions of gaming even after getting used to it. The pressure that it takes to activate the key really bothers me, a lot. | ||
zere
Germany1287 Posts
On December 17 2011 14:53 DjRetro wrote: RED FTW! lol Seriously, that's the reason why they cost more comparing with others. Although brown and blue are great switches too. All different Cherry MX switches cost exactly the same; this has recently been confirmed by a 3M guy (switch supplier) at a keyboard enthusiast meetup in Berlin. The reason for MX-Red boards being more expensive and suppliers charging more for it is because end users assume that it's a special and more expensive switch. On topic: Listen to Hashbaz. And, yes, reds need about as much force as blues and browns. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:52 -Trippin- wrote: All of these replies have a helped a lot so far, thanks. It would be awesome if I could hear some detail as to what you guys like about your blues in comparison to your blacks, however! :D if you really didn't like blacks, you won't find a whole world of difference with red, brown, or blue. mechanical switches are mechanical switches. | ||
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NET
United States703 Posts
On December 17 2011 23:14 Terranist wrote: if you really didn't like blacks, you won't find a whole world of difference with red, brown, or blue. mechanical switches are mechanical switches. Not at all, they are as unique as the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg races. But they are similar in the sense that they are better than your standard membrane keyboard though. On December 17 2011 23:02 -Trippin- wrote: That's actually really helpful man, thanks. I was thinking that blacks may just take a lot of getting used to, but none the less I can see it fatiguing me after long sessions of gaming even after getting used to it. The pressure that it takes to activate the key really bothers me, a lot. No problem, just giving my two cents ^^ | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
On December 17 2011 23:14 Terranist wrote: if you really didn't like blacks, you won't find a whole world of difference with red, brown, or blue. mechanical switches are mechanical switches. The only thing I don't like about blacks is the amount of pressure it takes to activate the key. I've tested blues and I like them a lot. I just haven't tested out any of the other switch types. I think hash was right in saying that I am too quick to dismiss the other switch types. | ||
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enemy2010
Germany1972 Posts
On December 17 2011 14:58 -Trippin- wrote: So is there a reason why no one reccomends black? Or have I pretty much covered it? So far thinking blue is the way to go. I recommend them. I have a SS 6gv2. Had issues with finger/wrist hurting before, now i dont have that anymore. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
No one's recommending black because you said you don't like blacks.... . common sense On December 17 2011 23:22 -Trippin- wrote: The only thing I don't like about blacks is the amount of pressure it takes to activate the key. I've tested blues and I like them a lot. I just haven't tested out any of the other switch types. I think hash was right in saying that I am too quick to dismiss the other switch types. If the only thing you don't like about blacks is the amount of pressure you need, reds are the obvious choice... why is this even discussed -,- | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20331 Posts
Das markets brown switches as "silent", but they are definatly far far louder than standard rubber dome keyboards, i wonder what blues would sound like, because if these are "silent", you could probably wake up neighbors using blues. When playing sc2 and some other games you just bottom out most of the keys anyway, but being able to float halfway down the switch for activating and/or holding keys is a really really nice feel, when i tried offrace as zerg, i didnt bottom out a single key until about 25-30 supply, and it is quite easy to play that way if you feel like it, though as protoss past 1 base im usually bottoming out almost every keystroke for making probes, tapping across production etc, though the keys still feel and sound really nice | ||
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ally123234
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effervescent
United States47 Posts
Right now I am using my Rosewill RK-9000 and here's the review I had typed out for it: The Rosewill RK-9000 requires very little actuation force, so your fingertips can just lightly touch the key and it will respond. It's a quiet keyboard, easy to type on, and may require some getting used to so that you can keep from bottoming out (hitting the keycap all the way to the bottom of the board). Red switches also have a linear feel as opposed to the tactile feel of blue and brown switches, and I'm not a huge fan of it but that's what I get for wanting a quieter keyboard. The keyboard itself is well-made; for some reason the keycaps feel very soft for me to type on. The red plating isn't too noticeable unless you're looking down at the keyboard, and for some people it's a bonus for aesthetics. The braided cable seems very durable, and the gold plated connectors are a nice touch. This keyboard also has anti-ghosting, which is good for gamers. I mainly use the keyboard for typing and gaming (Starcraft II, when I'm able to play), and so far it's been really nice. I managed to get this board during the Black Friday sale since it was $80, and it's definitely worth the money since you can rarely find nice mech keyboards for under $100 in general, and red switch keyboards are pretty rare, although they're becoming more common It may not be worth the regular pricetag of $130 compared to other mech keyboard brands, but if it's on sale, definitely snag it. | ||
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m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
Reds I have BW, loved it ever since, although planning to get brown or red just because i game during the night and everyone is sleeping. | ||
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m1rk3
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gr1gr0th
United States2 Posts
I have this keyboard in the browns for whoever was looking for red that aren't ridiculously expensive | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
I tried blue for 6 months, I liked the clickyness but I've find that it is very tiring on the fingers. I literally had to stop every night because my hand got so tired -_-, since black requires more force to hit... The red has being perfect for me so far. | ||
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
It is really nice for typing (programming, essays, etc), and I love it for gaming as well, (SC2, LoL, etc). The #1 reason I bought this keyboard was because it felt good to me, and that is the reason anyone should buy a mechanical keyboard. Don't base it off of "it is good for gaming, it is made for typing, etc", the only way to tell if you are going to like a mechanical keyboard is by trying one. Go to a store that sells mechanical keyboards and try the variety and see which one feels better for you. Personally, I tried both the Steelseries 6Gv2, and the Razer Blackwidow. I personally found that the MX Blue keys "felt" better. | ||
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ohokurwrong
Brazil283 Posts
geekhack there are the GREATEST mechanical keyboard guides with pics and everything. that being said the best keys for me are cherry mx RED. the red do not have tactile feedback and are easy to push. steelseries does not make keyboards that have key choices and basically are selling you stuff assuming you dont know whats best i suggest checking out das keyboards. noppo choc minis and deck. these brands have never done me wrong. my keyboard is a noppo choc mini. the good thing about mini keyboards for sc2 is that the f keys are closer to the numbers. they are RIGHT above the numbers so its easier to camera location things | ||
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SoylentCreep
Korea (South)176 Posts
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Skullflower
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trew
Sweden93 Posts
Besides the layout on the 7g is fucked up, but the main reason was the switches. | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
Thanks guys. | ||
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casualman
United States1198 Posts
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SoylentCreep
Korea (South)176 Posts
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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Tarfire
Canada67 Posts
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:30 -Trippin- wrote: I am going to go to the store tomorrow and try blues on last time to see if I really like them more than blacks. My last question is the difference in sensitivity between blues and browns in regards to bottoming out. Not matter what keyboard I get, I'm going to bottom out ever time. I'd like to know if blue, or brown, is the best choice for that. So far from what I gather, it's all a matter of preference and it doesn't matter what I choose because only I can know what is best for me... but people who have had experience with a few different types and can compare and contrast really help me a lot. Thanks guys. Going and trying as many switches as you can is a good idea, as it is mostly personal preference. I don't think there is any difference between them in bottoming out, blues and browns should be easier to avoid bottoming out on because you have some feedback. I have blues and blacks, I use the blues for SC2 and blacks for BF3 and skyrim (and browns for typing, but that is just because its a tenkeyless, I prefer blues for typing). | ||
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ambrosiaa
Singapore333 Posts
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v3chr0
United States856 Posts
I def need to look into this kind of stuff next time I buy a keyboard... had no idea different "switches" even existed. | ||
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
On December 18 2011 15:41 v3chr0 wrote: I thought I was a gamer, and yet reading through this thread has left me in befuddlement. There's a difference to keyboards beside how they look?! I def need to look into this kind of stuff next time I buy a keyboard... had no idea different "switches" even existed. well its minor honestly. all mechanical keyboard switches(well most) are great. but i warn you, you wont be able to return to the swampy nasty feeling of a membrane board | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:30 -Trippin- wrote: I am going to go to the store tomorrow and try blues on last time to see if I really like them more than blacks. My last question is the difference in sensitivity between blues and browns in regards to bottoming out. Not matter what keyboard I get, I'm going to bottom out ever time. I'd like to know if blue, or brown, is the best choice for that. So far from what I gather, it's all a matter of preference and it doesn't matter what I choose because only I can know what is best for me... but people who have had experience with a few different types and can compare and contrast really help me a lot. Thanks guys. Blues are very slightly stiffer than browns, so I guess technically browns are easier to bottom out. But if you're going to bottom out every time regardless, then it doesn't matter which you get. They will feel identical wrt bottoming out. There's no need to limit yourself to what's available at the store. Order a Rosewill from Newegg and return it if you don't like it. Failing that, you can usually resell on geekhack for 60-80% of what you paid. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 18 2011 15:41 v3chr0 wrote: I thought I was a gamer, and yet reading through this thread has left me in befuddlement. There's a difference to keyboards beside how they look?! I def need to look into this kind of stuff next time I buy a keyboard... had no idea different "switches" even existed. They don't in rubberdomes, in mechanical keyboards they do http://www.corporate.qpad.se/modules/news/article.php?storyid=254 Then there's also topres that are interesting On December 18 2011 11:30 -Trippin- wrote: I am going to go to the store tomorrow and try blues on last time to see if I really like them more than blacks. My last question is the difference in sensitivity between blues and browns in regards to bottoming out. Not matter what keyboard I get, I'm going to bottom out ever time. I'd like to know if blue, or brown, is the best choice for that. So far from what I gather, it's all a matter of preference and it doesn't matter what I choose because only I can know what is best for me... but people who have had experience with a few different types and can compare and contrast really help me a lot. Thanks guys. Funny how you completely ignored reds although they should be exactly what you want | ||
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berimbau
Australia22 Posts
On December 18 2011 22:26 Shikyo wrote: Funny how you completely ignored reds although they should be exactly what you want Oh well... this thread convinced me to buy leopold FC200R with reds to replace my black widow! | ||
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nOondn
564 Posts
On December 18 2011 15:05 Tarfire wrote: I bought a Tt Meka G1 Cherry Black mechanical a couple months ago and I'm loving it. It's not as good to type on as a brown or blue, but for SC2, I really love how well I can double tap on it, making injects with queens ridiculously quick. Also, the accuracy I have with these switches is my favourite. I feel like I am so much more precise with these switches than when using my other mechanicals. The keyboard won't just magically give you more apm, you have to work at it. But I mean, I was doing 275 apm on my browns, and now am doing 305 on my cherry black. Maybe it is the increased accuracy and double tapping, but really it all depends on how you make it work. If you keep saying 'bleh im disappointed' then unfortunately you will never appreciate the good things about the keyboard. i'm not the only one who feel like this !!, MEGA G1 is the best !! . | ||
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