• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:32
CET 13:32
KST 21:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 282HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? 2024 BoxeR's birthday message Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BSL Season 21 - Complete Results Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Quickbooks Payroll Service Official Guide Quickbooks Customer Service Official Guide
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2183 users

Mechanical Keyboard Guide

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 381 382 383 Next
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 05:44:42
August 28 2011 18:44 GMT
#1
mod edit: old thread here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184436




[image loading] [image loading] [image loading]
[image loading]


List of my keyboards: Ducky OCN Edition 9008 G2 (ABS, browns), Thermaltake Meka G1 (ABS, blacks), PFU Happy Hacking Professional 2 (PBT, Topre 45g uniform, "Otaku"), Rosewill RK9000 (ABS, blues), Unicomp Classic Model M (USB, Buckling Spring)

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading][image loading]


Guides:

*All source material is courtesy of the Overclock.net thread and corresponding mechanical keyboard sellers.

Overclock.net Mechanical Keyboard Guide: Link

Most information is provided in the link. Manyak and Tator Tot did a fantastic job explaining the different types of switches but some more can be added regarding RTS. Other sites have even copy-pasted Manyak's page. I will not do that out of respect for the work he put in.

A fellow TLer named Kronen is offering his O-ring pack from WASDkeyboards.com and dampeners via Elitekeyboards.com for people to test out. Here's his profile page; Feel free. Kronen's profile.

poeticEnnui's mod to his IBM F/AT (a restoration of a classic Model M) Link

Also consider the Deskthority.wiki Link, Reddit's mechanical keyboard page Link, and Ripster's Reddit page Link

Niche Stores:

+ Show Spoiler +
DeckKeyboards.com LED Backlit boards (Deck Legend and Deck 82) Link

EliteKeyboards.com (Leopold, Realforce, and PFU) Link

ClickyKeyboards.com (IBM Model Ms) Link

Codekeyboards.com (CODE brand, very small company) Link

DuckyChannelInternationalCo. (Ducky) Link

Feenix.com (Autore) Link

MechanicalKeyboards.com (Lots: from Ducky to Adesso to Das) Link

TheKeyboardCompany.com (Filco and Realforce) Link

PCHome.com.tw keyboards (Ducky, Taiwanese site w/ geekhack english guide) Link

PCkeyboard.com (Unicomp buckling spring keyboards) Link

qtan5370's E-Bay Market (Ducky, Filco, KBC, Keycool, Noppoo, Pulu, and HPE + custom keycaps to buy) Link

Tankguys.com (OCN Edition Duckys) Link

TechKeys.com (custom and artisan keycaps) Link

TigerImports.com (Ducky) Link

WASD fully customized keyboards and keycaps. Link


Common Questions:

+ Show Spoiler +
1. Which switch is best for RTS? A: It depends. Most experts will b-line you to MX Browns. They are fairly prevalent and give you good maneuverability, much like the MX Blues. MX Reds and MX Blacks are considered "gaming" switches; They double tap much easier since they are linear, sort of like a typewriter. MX Black switches are pretty stiff, but with a week or so of use, they become much easier to press. In the end, it all comes down to preference, but what MX Browns lack in double-tapping feel they make up for in typing pleasure.

2. How expensive are they and are they worth it? A: Mechanical keyboards come in a variety of styles, from tenkeyless to LED backlit to generic. Prices can range from $60 US to $400 US. The median price is around $100 US.

3. Are there other switches besides Cherry? A: Yes. There are several types of mechanical switches but the Cherry brand are the most prevalent.

4. Will a mechanical keyboard make me a better Starcraft player? A: No. I don't think you can say a mechanical keyboard will get you into GM, but it will make typing/gaming more pleasurable.

5. Why do people swear by mechanical switches? A: The feel. Choosing any mechanical switch over a rubber dome keyboard will most definitely make any typing experience better. It has to do with the way they activate and how much pressure is required. Rubber domes require you to bottom out, no matter what, which causes fatigue. Mechanical switches register before you hit the board with the key, taking the pressure off of your fingers and joints. Not everyone takes advantage of this ability and instead favor the double-tapping ability, click, etc. of mechanical switches, not to mention mechanical keyboards tend to be sturdier and built to last. Ask anyone who owns a mechanical keyboard whether they would go back to rubber domes and 99.9% will say NO.


Best value/quality boards:

+ Show Spoiler +
Value/Quality: MX Blue: Das Model S (Professional or Ultimate) - NATEROB009 places the Das keyboards at the top of the heap. Also, Destiny swears by this keyboard. As far as Razer's Blackwidow goes, it's known to have some faulty construction. Link

Value/Quality: MX Brown: Ducky 9008G2 ABS Keycaps - I have to say these are very well made and for $110 have the best value/quality of the MX Brown boards out there. Das also makes a MX brown version (Silent), but if you don't like the glossy finish, Ducky is a great way to go. Link

Value/Quality: MX Black: Thermaltake Meka G1 - Now available on Newegg and for a great price.Link

Value/Quality: MX Red: Leopold Linear Touch - Good quality and a great price for the well sought after Reds. Link

Value/Quality, Backlit: Deck (MX Black or MX Clear) Link or Ducky Shine (MX Red, Black, Blue, Brown) Link

Value over all: Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid TKL, MX Brown - Great board for RTS and AVAILABLE ON NEWEGG. Link

Quality over all: Ducky 9008G2 PBT Keycaps, MX Brown - You pay $30 more for one of the best built boards on the market. Link




Please make suggestions as to how this thread could be improved and I will gladly update it. Big thanks to Manyak, Tator Tot and Overclock.net for their support of Mechanical keyboards.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 19:12:03
August 28 2011 19:03 GMT
#2
Geekhack.org has more info on Mechanical keyboards. IMO the people on geekhack are more intelligent about mechanical keyboards than the people on overclockers.
Whatever happens, happens
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
August 28 2011 19:21 GMT
#3
I think it is worth noting that the how the keycaps are printed and also the keytop types as well.
Personally I went back to blue switch after trying out brown and black, the typing sound is like music to me. Through I might get a red switch just to keep because everyone loves it in my city
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
August 28 2011 19:47 GMT
#4
can't wait for my reds, they will be godly! I wish I lived in Hong Kong, red switched keyboards are like $30 ;( but it will be worth it!
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 19:57:47
August 28 2011 19:49 GMT
#5
On August 29 2011 04:03 Son of Gnome wrote:
Geekhack.org has more info on Mechanical keyboards. IMO the people on geekhack are more intelligent about mechanical keyboards than the people on overclockers.


I prefer Manyak's guide. Good guide though. I will link the Geekhack guide as well. Thanks for reminding me.

On August 29 2011 04:21 ETisME wrote:
I think it is worth noting that the how the keycaps are printed and also the keytop types as well.
Personally I went back to blue switch after trying out brown and black, the typing sound is like music to me. Through I might get a red switch just to keep because everyone loves it in my city


I agree but that information is on Manyak's guide. i don't want to copy-paste. Keycaps are less important I think for those being introduced to mechanicals than switch type.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
davidk
Profile Joined January 2011
49 Posts
August 28 2011 20:35 GMT
#6
I'd like to see a list with 'good value for their money keyboards'. There are a lot for sale. I really don't know what to choose.
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
August 28 2011 21:01 GMT
#7
On August 29 2011 04:03 Son of Gnome wrote:
Geekhack.org has more info on Mechanical keyboards. IMO the people on geekhack are more intelligent about mechanical keyboards than the people on overclockers.


The people are more intelligent? What kind of stupid bias is this?
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
August 28 2011 21:14 GMT
#8
On August 29 2011 06:01 Encrypto wrote:
The people are more intelligent? What kind of stupid bias is this?

He more-or-less means they're more knowledgeable about the subject. Which is true since there is a plentiful amount of keyboard fanatics there. : P
GET SM4SHED
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
August 28 2011 21:16 GMT
#9
On August 29 2011 06:01 Encrypto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 04:03 Son of Gnome wrote:
Geekhack.org has more info on Mechanical keyboards. IMO the people on geekhack are more intelligent about mechanical keyboards than the people on overclockers.


The people are more intelligent? What kind of stupid bias is this?


geekhack is devoted to keyboards, they are very well diversed in how to recommend the best keyboard for you, and they have a lot of knowledgeable people more so than overclockers....

overall I would agree with his statement.
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 21:40:18
August 28 2011 21:38 GMT
#10


geekhack is devoted to keyboards, they are very well diversed in how to recommend the best keyboard for you, and they have a lot of knowledgeable people more so than overclockers....

overall I would agree with his statement.


Just because "keyboards" is in the banner, doesn't mean they know more. Fox News has "news" in the title. Does that mean they are a good news source?

On August 29 2011 05:35 davidk wrote:
I'd like to see a list with 'good value for their money keyboards'. There are a lot for sale. I really don't know what to choose.


OK. I'll try and put one together today. I agree, there are quite a few and they seem very similar.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
August 28 2011 21:45 GMT
#11
On August 29 2011 06:38 slytown wrote:
Show nested quote +


geekhack is devoted to keyboards, they are very well diversed in how to recommend the best keyboard for you, and they have a lot of knowledgeable people more so than overclockers....

overall I would agree with his statement.


Just because "keyboards" is in the banner, doesn't mean they know more. Fox News has "news" in the title. Does that mean they are a good news source?

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 05:35 davidk wrote:
I'd like to see a list with 'good value for their money keyboards'. There are a lot for sale. I really don't know what to choose.


OK. I'll try and put one together today. I agree, there are quite a few and they seem very similar.

Ask the average geekhacker about mechancial keyboards then ask the average person on OC about them. Then you'll see my point.
Whatever happens, happens
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
August 28 2011 22:24 GMT
#12

Ask the average geekhacker about mechancial keyboards then ask the average person on OC about them. Then you'll see my point.


Please don't generalize. It wasn't the whole OCN community that wrote the guide. It was Manyak and he used legitimate sources/research materials. The guide has also proven respected by other mechanical keyboard enthusiasts.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
August 28 2011 22:31 GMT
#13
On August 29 2011 07:24 slytown wrote:
Show nested quote +

Ask the average geekhacker about mechancial keyboards then ask the average person on OC about them. Then you'll see my point.


Please don't generalize. It wasn't the whole OCN community that wrote the guide. It was Manyak and he used legitimate sources/research materials. The guide has also proven respected by other mechanical keyboard enthusiasts.

I'm just talking from experience man
Whatever happens, happens
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
August 28 2011 22:36 GMT
#14

I'm just talking from experience man


I know what ya mean though. Lots of "bronze leaguers" on OCN.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
August 28 2011 22:38 GMT
#15
On August 29 2011 07:24 slytown wrote:
Show nested quote +

Ask the average geekhacker about mechancial keyboards then ask the average person on OC about them. Then you'll see my point.


Please don't generalize. It wasn't the whole OCN community that wrote the guide. It was Manyak and he used legitimate sources/research materials. The guide has also proven respected by other mechanical keyboard enthusiasts.


a lot of the sources came from geekhack though lol
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
August 28 2011 22:46 GMT
#16
Also I am wondering y u consider the Overclocker Ducky to be the best brown board on the market. Most people would say it is Filco or leopold.
Whatever happens, happens
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 22:50:14
August 28 2011 22:49 GMT
#17
On August 29 2011 07:46 Son of Gnome wrote:
Also I am wondering y u consider the Overclocker Ducky to be the best brown board on the market. Most people would say it is Filco or leopold.


Not a huge difference, I agree. Ducky is a little cheaper though and Filco is less easily available at the moment.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
August 29 2011 00:08 GMT
#18
On August 29 2011 07:49 slytown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 07:46 Son of Gnome wrote:
Also I am wondering y u consider the Overclocker Ducky to be the best brown board on the market. Most people would say it is Filco or leopold.


Not a huge difference, I agree. Ducky is a little cheaper though and Filco is less easily available at the moment.

Really I wouldn't say that it is easier to get a ducky than a filco, the ducky in your link is out of stock and a filco can be bought through ebay, amazon, or keyboardco. So personally I would say filco is the easier of the 2 to get.
Whatever happens, happens
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
August 29 2011 08:30 GMT
#19
On August 29 2011 09:08 Son of Gnome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 07:49 slytown wrote:
On August 29 2011 07:46 Son of Gnome wrote:
Also I am wondering y u consider the Overclocker Ducky to be the best brown board on the market. Most people would say it is Filco or leopold.


Not a huge difference, I agree. Ducky is a little cheaper though and Filco is less easily available at the moment.

Really I wouldn't say that it is easier to get a ducky than a filco, the ducky in your link is out of stock and a filco can be bought through ebay, amazon, or keyboardco. So personally I would say filco is the easier of the 2 to get.

I bought my ducky at a store and the seller (who is extremely EXTREMELY into mechanical keyboards) told me something about the brands and how the business is doing:
Steel series ones are not the one to go for, lots of problems with the quality.
Das, Filco and Ducky all have the same manufacturer at taiwan, I was close to getting a Das until he told me that the glossy polish means that any scratch, it will leave a permanent mark (which he can remove but it will be costly)

He told me that Filco and Ducky are almost at equal quality, but Ducky's brand is quite a bit more popular in Taiwan, especially because of all the limited editions that they release.
And because of that, they don't sell Filco,the demand for it is simply not as high. The price is higher while quality is almost the same. The demand is lower because with that price, you add a bit extra and you can get a better one with Ducky's brand.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
August 29 2011 08:47 GMT
#20
geekhack IMO has all the information you need regarding mechanical keyboards, from a detailed explanation for every cherry switch out there and also since the whole forum is dedicated to mechanical keyboards any questions you have should be able to be answered there.
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
1 2 3 4 5 381 382 383 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
12:00
Playoffs
ByuN vs herOLIVE!
MaxPax vs TBD
SHIN vs Classic
Creator vs Cure
WardiTV453
Rex84
IndyStarCraft 71
IntoTheiNu 2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 141
ProTech119
Rex 84
IndyStarCraft 71
trigger 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 46101
Killer 5321
Sea 2338
Rain 2039
Hyuk 1642
Flash 1435
Horang2 1329
Bisu 1074
BeSt 955
Jaedong 856
[ Show more ]
Snow 691
Soma 314
Stork 302
actioN 278
Larva 277
Leta 259
Light 222
Last 172
Mini 169
Hyun 161
Soulkey 159
firebathero 158
Rush 100
hero 97
JYJ 95
Aegong 73
Shuttle 66
Mind 60
Sharp 49
NotJumperer 46
ToSsGirL 44
[sc1f]eonzerg 41
JulyZerg 35
IntoTheRainbow 30
zelot 27
Backho 27
sSak 25
Free 21
sorry 18
Icarus 18
GoRush 15
Yoon 12
910 12
Terrorterran 9
HiyA 9
SilentControl 7
Dota 2
singsing1376
XcaliburYe118
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1743
zeus841
allub211
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King451
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor198
Other Games
B2W.Neo1378
crisheroes271
RotterdaM182
Hui .156
Pyrionflax149
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1731
lovetv 20
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4396
• Stunt1165
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
11h 28m
RongYI Cup
1d 22h
herO vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-04
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Disclosure: This page contains affiliate marketing links that support TLnet.

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.