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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-21 18:15:08
November 21 2017 14:26 GMT
#7621
Edit :Just gonna stick with my blues for now.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-01 04:51:00
December 01 2017 04:50 GMT
#7622
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 05 2017 09:09 GMT
#7623
On December 01 2017 13:50 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That looks amazing. Out of curiosity, how much does that frame on a filco cost?

On another note, I'm in the market to get a work keyboard.

It does need to have browns so that I don't annoy the crap out of everybody around, and I will be installing orings since I bottom out every key I press(yay for heavy hands).

Preference is on blank keys and possibly a color schemed keyboard of sorts.

Are my only options either a WASD+custom keycaps or Das?

I'd prefer to not have an idle set of keycaps if possible.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
namtaog
Profile Joined November 2017
4 Posts
December 07 2017 21:49 GMT
#7624
On December 05 2017 18:09 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 13:50 Varanice wrote:
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That looks amazing. Out of curiosity, how much does that frame on a filco cost?

On another note, I'm in the market to get a work keyboard.

It does need to have browns so that I don't annoy the crap out of everybody around, and I will be installing orings since I bottom out every key I press(yay for heavy hands).

Preference is on blank keys and possibly a color schemed keyboard of sorts.

Are my only options either a WASD+custom keycaps or Das?

I'd prefer to not have an idle set of keycaps if possible.


Will you need the tenkey? Also what is your budget? Going to be tough to find an off the shelf keyboard with blank keys (besides DAS) but you could always go with a Leopold keyboard since they do have side printed keys.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-08 09:01:46
December 08 2017 09:00 GMT
#7625
On December 08 2017 06:49 namtaog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2017 18:09 Amui wrote:
On December 01 2017 13:50 Varanice wrote:
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That looks amazing. Out of curiosity, how much does that frame on a filco cost?

On another note, I'm in the market to get a work keyboard.

It does need to have browns so that I don't annoy the crap out of everybody around, and I will be installing orings since I bottom out every key I press(yay for heavy hands).

Preference is on blank keys and possibly a color schemed keyboard of sorts.

Are my only options either a WASD+custom keycaps or Das?

I'd prefer to not have an idle set of keycaps if possible.


Will you need the tenkey? Also what is your budget? Going to be tough to find an off the shelf keyboard with blank keys (besides DAS) but you could always go with a Leopold keyboard since they do have side printed keys.

Full 104 key is required since I do a fair amount of work on the numpad.

Budget I'll leave fairly open, under $200 usd including shipping for the moment.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-08 12:33:53
December 08 2017 11:18 GMT
#7626
On December 08 2017 18:00 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2017 06:49 namtaog wrote:
On December 05 2017 18:09 Amui wrote:
On December 01 2017 13:50 Varanice wrote:
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That looks amazing. Out of curiosity, how much does that frame on a filco cost?

On another note, I'm in the market to get a work keyboard.

It does need to have browns so that I don't annoy the crap out of everybody around, and I will be installing orings since I bottom out every key I press(yay for heavy hands).

Preference is on blank keys and possibly a color schemed keyboard of sorts.

Are my only options either a WASD+custom keycaps or Das?

I'd prefer to not have an idle set of keycaps if possible.


Will you need the tenkey? Also what is your budget? Going to be tough to find an off the shelf keyboard with blank keys (besides DAS) but you could always go with a Leopold keyboard since they do have side printed keys.

Full 104 key is required since I do a fair amount of work on the numpad.

Budget I'll leave fairly open, under $200 usd including shipping for the moment.


I highly recommend getting a hybrid Plum board, there's a non-backlight 108 version. It comes in 45g, that said the keys feel like Topre switches so you won't feel a tactile bump like you do with browns. The switches feel like a much higher quality red switch (the only real comparable is the actuation force and lack of tactile bump, you can actually feel the key presses tho). The board comes with dental bands installed so it makes no sound at all.

The seller is pretty chill. I know he has plenty of sets of blank keycaps, he might accept swapping them free of charge (long shot but who knows). The board itself feels amazing, i have the 35g and 45g versions of the Plum 75 (which has the same switch, it's just smaller). Feel-wise it's up there with my Topre Realforce, i prefer gaming with my Plum and i prefer typing with my Realforce. I prefer the Plum over every mech keyboard on the market (and i have a ton of them including a Filco Majestouch), it's built like a tank too.

The seller is a poster on geekhack and deskthority, if you have any questions just msg him there. His id on geekhack = xuanwumen, his id on deskthority = mech greenhand. He also accepts paypal and offers a discount if you contact him on either site.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Noppoo-new-60-size-compact-noppoo-mini-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-red-switches-gaming-keyboard-PBT/818123_2047420314.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.44243bf1UDw0BO

The default keycaps are PBT but he also has a ton of other options in his store:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Keycaps/818123_503723494.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.4f48d907Lu1AMJ
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
namtaog
Profile Joined November 2017
4 Posts
December 08 2017 16:59 GMT
#7627
On December 08 2017 18:00 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2017 06:49 namtaog wrote:
On December 05 2017 18:09 Amui wrote:
On December 01 2017 13:50 Varanice wrote:
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That looks amazing. Out of curiosity, how much does that frame on a filco cost?

On another note, I'm in the market to get a work keyboard.

It does need to have browns so that I don't annoy the crap out of everybody around, and I will be installing orings since I bottom out every key I press(yay for heavy hands).

Preference is on blank keys and possibly a color schemed keyboard of sorts.

Are my only options either a WASD+custom keycaps or Das?

I'd prefer to not have an idle set of keycaps if possible.


Will you need the tenkey? Also what is your budget? Going to be tough to find an off the shelf keyboard with blank keys (besides DAS) but you could always go with a Leopold keyboard since they do have side printed keys.

Full 104 key is required since I do a fair amount of work on the numpad.

Budget I'll leave fairly open, under $200 usd including shipping for the moment.


I think a Leopold might suit you well if you can deal with side print caps. If not you could get a Leopold and throw a set of PBT Blanks on there. I know the Leopolds usually come with a variety of switches and case colors. Some even have PBT Doubleshots direct from the factory which I thought was super nifty.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 12 2017 08:28 GMT
#7628
On December 01 2017 13:50 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


A month later and the Filco still feels nice.

Here is a picture.

https://i.imgur.com/toABKpp.jpg
maru G5L pls
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14898 Posts
December 13 2017 14:37 GMT
#7629
Looking to get a new keyboard with cherry brown switches this time rather than my current blues. Also want an RGB keyboard. Main options I've been looking at are the Ducky Shine 6 and the corsair k70 lux rgb, most people say the build quality for the ducky shine 6 are better overall, plus issues with non-standard keycaps for the k70, though I'm not that interested in replacing the keycaps at the moment. Any other boards I should put into consideration?
namtaog
Profile Joined November 2017
4 Posts
December 15 2017 23:43 GMT
#7630
On December 13 2017 23:37 KOFgokuon wrote:
Looking to get a new keyboard with cherry brown switches this time rather than my current blues. Also want an RGB keyboard. Main options I've been looking at are the Ducky Shine 6 and the corsair k70 lux rgb, most people say the build quality for the ducky shine 6 are better overall, plus issues with non-standard keycaps for the k70, though I'm not that interested in replacing the keycaps at the moment. Any other boards I should put into consideration?


Rosewill makes some pretty good keyboards at a decent price. Could also look @ Tesoro, Ganss, Cooler Master, KUL, Varmilo, MechanicalKeyboards.com brand. Could also check out Topre if you're looking for tactile, I know they make the RGB Realforce...
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
December 16 2017 00:44 GMT
#7631
On December 05 2017 18:09 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2017 13:50 Varanice wrote:
On September 30 2017 00:53 neptunusfisk wrote:
On September 29 2017 20:38 Nabe wrote:
Sorry lol, feeling kind of dumb right now, somehow I missed Ninja and just read Majestouch... You are correct it's besides caps it's identical to the regular MJ2.

It does change things. For that I think it depends on what you want to do with it. The Filco is the best build quality. The Ducky still has the edge on the features, though it's possible you might not even use them. The removable cord is useful and much safer for travel. It's build quality is honestly not far off the Filco.

There are some more differences. Costar stabilizers on the Filco, Cherry on the Ducky. Also the MJ2 was a go to keyboard for many years in the enthusiast community so there's a ton of aftermarket stuff out there for it that very few other keyboards have. Controllers, plates, cases, etc. The Ducky has none of that.


I was offered to meet and test the Filco IRL and it was delightful. I still haven't tried the others, but I bought the Filco and feel happy about it. As you say, I don't really care about the features of the Ducky so I hope I made a good choice anyways.


I've been loving my Filco dude.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That looks amazing. Out of curiosity, how much does that frame on a filco cost?

On another note, I'm in the market to get a work keyboard.

It does need to have browns so that I don't annoy the crap out of everybody around, and I will be installing orings since I bottom out every key I press(yay for heavy hands).

Preference is on blank keys and possibly a color schemed keyboard of sorts.

Are my only options either a WASD+custom keycaps or Das?

I'd prefer to not have an idle set of keycaps if possible.


base tkl board was $120~, the finish on the board was an extra 40-50ish.
keycaps were $70 on PMK
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WillZen
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany4 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-14 12:19:31
January 14 2018 11:28 GMT
#7632
I was looking for a new keyboard, found one by the Brand IKBC
Does anyone have experience with that brand? Ive never seen those before, they seem to be rather rare in EU.
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
April 23 2018 11:50 GMT
#7633
Yo guys, have any of you used optical switches keyboards from "bloody" company?

They come in two versions, either orange (whish is similar to cherry blue) and brown (which is similar to cherry red).

Company says that this keyboard has about 10 times better reaction time.

There are 3 main models:

B975
B945 - numpad at the left side
B930 - no nampad

Here is the link where you can check them out https://www.amazon.com/Bloody-B975-Optical-Keyboard-Aluminum/dp/B079GBLXNV?th=1

Unfortunately besides B930 they are not sold in my country, so I wanted to ask your opinions whether it's worth to wait for them. In Europe you could buy those for half the price that's on Amazon so it's also extremely cheap.


Also - is there any other mechanical keyboard with brown / red switches and nampad at the left side? I need it for my work, but I also like to have both hands close to each other during gaming.

_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands678 Posts
April 29 2018 07:05 GMT
#7634
For people in the Netherlands: there is a second hand CMStorm QuickFire Rapid-i for sale at tweakers.net for a very low price. I own a Rapid-i myself, almost bought this one just to have one extra, but my wife won't let me
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-29 09:40:01
April 29 2018 09:39 GMT
#7635
I own a Ducky Shine 6 blue that I have been very happy with. The only problem with it I've had is it does not come with feet. You can not adjust tilt on it at all. I just improvise. A stack of post it notes acts the same, really cheap.

I had a CM QuickFire with brown for the longest time. Highly recommended!
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
May 02 2018 20:02 GMT
#7636
Looking for advice from a Korean.... which might be hard to get. I'm looking into getting one of these.

https://www.amazon.com/ABKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Resistance-NKEY-Rollover/dp/B07515HPQX/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525290052&sr=8-1&keywords=ABKO+K660&dpID=41NjyvOhInL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1

All the reviews are pretty much in Korean for this thing, but it looks awesome.

Bonus points if you can find me where to buy this version.

[image loading]
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
May 22 2018 17:28 GMT
#7637
Does anyone have experiance with bloody keyboards? Im curious how their new optical switches LK3 compare to cherry mx and others.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-27 22:20:43
May 26 2018 19:31 GMT
#7638
On May 23 2018 02:28 alone wrote:
Does anyone have experiance with bloody keyboards? Im curious how their new optical switches LK3 compare to cherry mx and others.


Their previous boards had some issues but i'm looking into the newer ones. Curious if there are double digit millisecond (or even high single digit) latency differences against my current board, an ancient WASD v1 that i have to run over USB now.

edit:


Most likely my keyboard is using 125hz USB & getting that lag penalty - it threw off my osu timings when i swapped ps/2 to usb and back. Tons of variance between keyboards as well.

Seems that the answer to my question is most likely yes. The faster board there (good electronics & 1000hz usb poll) gets a 15ms lag in CSGO while the slower ones are at 39ms (bad electronics + 125hz poll) which should be really obvious. A 125hz polling rate also adds a random 0-8ms of additional lag which makes it harder to press a key within a tiny timing window for rhythm games. That 15ms value is near-perfect for CSGO 300fps @180hz while the other keyboards are clearly adding ~24ms latency.

That's even before getting into a full optical switch board! I haven't found any similar and good latency tests for those, do they exist?

very hard to find numbers for even other regular keyboards, so few people test their performance
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
July 03 2018 01:19 GMT
#7639
How up-to-date is the current list in the first post? I just started my office job and I want to bring in a mechanical keyboard. I have a Das Model S with MX Blues that I used to play a lot of video games with, but I feel like the MX Blue switches make it too loud. Is there a "quiet" mechanical keyboard out there that anybody could recommend me? Preferably with a 10key
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-03 16:50:56
July 03 2018 13:58 GMT
#7640
On July 03 2018 10:19 Whatson wrote:
How up-to-date is the current list in the first post? I just started my office job and I want to bring in a mechanical keyboard. I have a Das Model S with MX Blues that I used to play a lot of video games with, but I feel like the MX Blue switches make it too loud. Is there a "quiet" mechanical keyboard out there that anybody could recommend me? Preferably with a 10key


It's ancient

MX Blue has an audible click as part of the switch so it's louder.

Brown has a physical pressure change as you press down on the switch, so it's got a bit of the blue feel but doesn't make much of an audible click; they've been labeled as "silent" or "office" switches before.

Red/Black are linear (different feel, smooth+light) and don't make a sound from the key actuation.

The sound that you hear from keyboards of those switch types (red, black, brown etc) is almost all due to the keys physically bottoming out which can be reduced by o-rings.

check out some videos of those switch types with o-ring mods on youtube

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