Extra voltage is always a risk. There's a reason that any good software that lets you add it, like Afterburner and Eleet warn you. And there's no such thing as guaranteed safe with OCing a GPU. With a CPU, as long as you stay inside the manufacturers VID range, sure, but GPU manufacturers don't like to release those.
On September 28 2011 22:37 HydraLF wrote: I bought a new power supply today and the computer seems to be responding now, though I am still unable to boot if I have both 6pin power cable plugged into my GTX560, it flashes the DRAM_LED MEMOK light + fans goes on for 0.25seconds and then proceed to die again.
Did you actually test the original PSU like that after power-cycling it? Certainly sounds like a VRM short, which half-decent PSUs ought to survive.
On September 28 2011 03:29 Cyro wrote: Did you have updated, non-beta drivers? I think there was an issue a little while back with slightly older ones
Drivers have nothing to do with computer not powering.
I got the latest beta driver which was for battlefield 3 anyway.
There was a bug in one driver that caused overclocked nvidia cards to fail in some way without safety measures kicking in, there was youtube vids of sparks flying off cards etc during benchmarks. It doesnt have to do with systems failing to boot after crashing?
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
Also removing the sticker on a card and slapping on a new one and calling it a new generation of cards. nVidia loves to do that.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
Also removing the sticker on a card and slapping on a new one and calling it a new generation of cards. nVidia loves to do that.
AMD is worse, recently actually. 5770/6770. 400 series to 500 series actually had some small improvements in power consumption, allowing better clocks, thermals, and noise.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
Also removing the sticker on a card and slapping on a new one and calling it a new generation of cards. nVidia loves to do that.
AMD is worse, recently actually. 5770/6770. 400 series to 500 series actually had some small improvements in power consumption, allowing better clocks, thermals, and noise.
The way I see it, 500 series are what 400 series were supposed to be so it's more of a bugfix you know.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
Also removing the sticker on a card and slapping on a new one and calling it a new generation of cards. nVidia loves to do that.
AMD is worse, recently actually. 5770/6770. 400 series to 500 series actually had some small improvements in power consumption, allowing better clocks, thermals, and noise.
The way I see it, 500 series are what 400 series were supposed to be so it's more of a bugfix you know.
Uhm, depends on which part of the 400 series. 465 was horrendous, 460 768MB was crap at the time because 1GB was only a little more cash, 480 was pretty good but hot as hell, and 470 was in a weird place. That's ignoring non gaming and low tier cards, like the 460SE, 450, and 430, of course.
Now you've got the 560Ti doing work, 550Ti and non-Ti 560 in a weird place, 570 is the single card that can max everything with AA/AF at 1080p, and 580 is for SLI Folding rigs.
Throw in the fact that 450 is actually a functional low end gaming card where the 550Ti never makes sense, and the 430 is better for HTPC than 520, and really the 500 series is more like DLC than a bugfix.
Especially since both Non-SE 460s have retained some value. Of course, the higher tier cards, 500 takes, and 560Ti is slightly better than 460, but at price/performance, a 460 1GB still wrecks a 560, it's just slightly louder.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
Also removing the sticker on a card and slapping on a new one and calling it a new generation of cards. nVidia loves to do that.
AMD is worse, recently actually. 5770/6770. 400 series to 500 series actually had some small improvements in power consumption, allowing better clocks, thermals, and noise.
The way I see it, 500 series are what 400 series were supposed to be so it's more of a bugfix you know.
Uhm, depends on which part of the 400 series. 465 was horrendous, 460 768MB was crap at the time because 1GB was only a little more cash, 480 was pretty good but hot as hell, and 470 was in a weird place. That's ignoring non gaming and low tier cards, like the 460SE, 450, and 430, of course.
Now you've got the 560Ti doing work, 550Ti and non-Ti 560 in a weird place, 570 is the single card that can max everything with AA/AF at 1080p, and 580 is for SLI Folding rigs.
Throw in the fact that 450 is actually a functional low end gaming card where the 550Ti never makes sense, and the 430 is better for HTPC than 520, and really the 500 series is more like DLC than a bugfix.
Well yeah I mostly meant that 560, 570, 580 all were to replace the 400s equivalents, the lower tier 400 cards were actually good and I believe 550 Ti is like the most useless card nvidia has released recently.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
I don't understand why my simple comment started a discussion on Nvidia and AMD's naming schemes. That has nothing to do with breaking a card by overvolting, then misrepresenting the facts to get a RMA. It's dishonest regardless of what Nvidia or AMD does.
Your statement has a hint of "well, Nvidia screws with customers, therefore I should RMA a card that I knowingly damaged"
Disabling parts of the silicon and selling at a lower price isn't exactly dishonest. Yield and R&D costs have a lot to do with it.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
I don't understand why my simple comment started a discussion on Nvidia and AMD's naming schemes. That has nothing to do with breaking a card by overvolting, then misrepresenting the facts to get a RMA. It's dishonest regardless of what Nvidia or AMD does.
Your statement has a hint of "well, Nvidia screws with customers, therefore I should RMA a card that I knowingly damaged"
Disabling parts of the silicon and selling at a lower price isn't exactly dishonest. Yield and R&D costs have a lot to do with it.
Uhhh a hint of it? I thought that was exactly what I said. The GPU manufacturers use shady methods to be greedy bastards, why not get some back now and then.
Who made you the fucking ethics committee anyway?
And how exactly do you come to the conclusion that spending more to make a GPU worse intentionally so people have to spend way more for better performance is anything but dishonest?
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
So you enjoy higher prices because of dicks who break their stuff and then RMA?
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
So you enjoy higher prices because of dicks who break their stuff and then RMA?
You would not believe the corners these guys cut when making cards, and how they turn defective equipment into marketing strategies.
Simply put, its your money, but they are forcing you to wring there neck for a product thats valued as such.
That being said, overvolting, there be dragons thar.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
So you enjoy higher prices because of dicks who break their stuff and then RMA?
You would not believe the corners these guys cut when making cards, and how they turn defective equipment into marketing strategies.
Simply put, its your money, but they are forcing you to wring there neck for a product thats valued as such.
That being said, overvolting, there be dragons thar.
What exactly are you trying to tell me?
I hate people who RMA stuff they broke. That has absolutly nothing to do with how electronic producers sell their stuff. You don't like you don't buy. If you buy and try to circumvent the throttling or whatever and then break it, it's your fault and you have no right to RMA.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
So you enjoy higher prices because of dicks who break their stuff and then RMA?
You would not believe the corners these guys cut when making cards, and how they turn defective equipment into marketing strategies.
Simply put, its your money, but they are forcing you to wring there neck for a product thats valued as such.
That being said, overvolting, there be dragons thar.
What exactly are you trying to tell me?
I hate people who RMA stuff they broke. That has absolutly nothing to do with how electronic producers sell their stuff. You don't like you don't buy. If you buy and try to circumvent the throttling or whatever and then break it, it's your fault and you have no right to RMA.
Im trying to tell you that GPU manufacturers don't release VID info because the cards are built to barely eek over the specifications. Many cards are just defective versions of higher tier cards with parts of it binned for stability and different things added to the PCB. You have no idea if your card is going to stand the test of time or is going to go belly up as soon as the warranty expires. And it is that last bit that is a big big problem.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
So you enjoy higher prices because of dicks who break their stuff and then RMA?
You would not believe the corners these guys cut when making cards, and how they turn defective equipment into marketing strategies.
Simply put, its your money, but they are forcing you to wring there neck for a product thats valued as such.
That being said, overvolting, there be dragons thar.
What exactly are you trying to tell me?
I hate people who RMA stuff they broke. That has absolutly nothing to do with how electronic producers sell their stuff. You don't like you don't buy. If you buy and try to circumvent the throttling or whatever and then break it, it's your fault and you have no right to RMA.
Im trying to tell you that GPU manufacturers don't release VID info because the cards are built to barely eek over the specifications. Many cards are just defective versions of higher tier cards with parts of it binned for stability and different things added to the PCB. You have no idea if your card is going to stand the test of time or is going to go belly up as soon as the warranty expires.
So where is the problem? They give you a guaranteed time window in which the card will work as it is sold to you. If it doesn't it will be replaced. How does that justify sending back a card you broke yourself?
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
So you enjoy higher prices because of dicks who break their stuff and then RMA?
You would not believe the corners these guys cut when making cards, and how they turn defective equipment into marketing strategies.
Simply put, its your money, but they are forcing you to wring there neck for a product thats valued as such.
That being said, overvolting, there be dragons thar.
What exactly are you trying to tell me?
I hate people who RMA stuff they broke. That has absolutly nothing to do with how electronic producers sell their stuff. You don't like you don't buy. If you buy and try to circumvent the throttling or whatever and then break it, it's your fault and you have no right to RMA.
Im trying to tell you that GPU manufacturers don't release VID info because the cards are built to barely eek over the specifications. Many cards are just defective versions of higher tier cards with parts of it binned for stability and different things added to the PCB. You have no idea if your card is going to stand the test of time or is going to go belly up as soon as the warranty expires.
So where is the problem? They give you a guaranteed time window in which the card will work as it is sold to you. If it doesn't it will be replaced. How does that justify sending back a card you broke yourself?
No reason other than it's only 10 percent as cheesy as the stuff they pull everyday I guess.
On September 28 2011 22:47 JingleHell wrote: How are they going to know it was overvolted? Just tell em it didn't work one morning. Don't tell them you changed the PSU either. Just give them minimum information. It wouldn't boot one morning.
But yeah, go for RMA. Oh, and for the record, listening to people on forums without independent verification can be risky, including this one. Also, going big overvolts all at once is always stupid on any piece of hardware.
I was planning to say artifacts started appearing while playing games (no mentioning of OC) and decided to try some benchmark/stability test and it blacked out completely.
Yeah I understand, I've went up to 1075 without much problem so I thought I could bump it up to 1100 but I guess it wasnt too clever to do so.
that's just being dishonest considering what you did
Yeah, so is them disabling half a piece of silicon so they can sell you the same thing for more money if you want the whole thing.
Also removing the sticker on a card and slapping on a new one and calling it a new generation of cards. nVidia loves to do that.
AMD is worse, recently actually. 5770/6770. 400 series to 500 series actually had some small improvements in power consumption, allowing better clocks, thermals, and noise.
Im actually ok with 5770 and 6770 because they are Crossfireable.
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