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loaded with ports (which the MBP isn't.)
Don't need ports when you have the Thunderbolt 
Anyway I hope Samsung puts a little more effort on the build quality with that Series 7 because it looks like a winner from the looks of it. The Samsung Series 9 is surprisingly badly built with insane keyboard flex...for a high end business class notebook, there isn't any way I would go for a Samsung laptop unless they start solving these problems.
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Thank you for all your help. The Samsung 7 looks amazing. As do the Dells.
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On September 26 2011 18:46 Womwomwom wrote:Don't need ports when you have the Thunderbolt  Yeah, because there's so many Lightpeak devices out there. Who needs USB 3.0 or eSATA for the 99% of the market.
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On September 26 2011 17:53 Dudemeister wrote: and I've realized that I probably can't expect it to look like a unibody Macbook Pro
Sounds like you're looking for one of these.
http://www.razerzone.com/blade
As expensive as a Mac too!
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On September 26 2011 19:12 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 18:46 Womwomwom wrote:loaded with ports (which the MBP isn't.) Don't need ports when you have the Thunderbolt  Yeah, because there's so many Lightpeak devices out there. Who needs USB 3.0 or eSATA for the 99% of the market.
New connections don't suddenly gain support you know. It took at least 2 years to get USB off the ground and look at us today. Even then, cables and peripherals were not cheap.
Although the adoption has been mostly been in the professional market, like with that Pegasus NAS and those Matrox video I/O decks, it'll trickle down to consumer devices soon enough since Apple has finally seized a large enough of the affluent market share. Acer and ASUS have also pledged support for the connector and should have laptops with it in 2012.
The speed benefit is certainly one huge benefit but Thunderbolt's strength has always been the ability to daisy chain devices together and this is something many users will find interesting. A single port on the Macbook Air can drive a 2560x1440 monitor, a Gigabit Ethernet port. 3x USB ports, 1x Firewire 800 port, audio, and webcam all simultaneously. Although this is through the $1,000 Apple Cinema Display, Belkin pretty much has a port replicator dock ready to be released for the mass market.
Not just that, its potentially a huge boon for those who want to game on a laptop. Theoretically you can connect up discrete desktop video cards through the Thunderbolt port to your laptop.
Thunderbolt is certainly fast but unlike USB 3.0 and eSATA, it works with just about every single thing imaginable in the market right now - its a DisplayPort, port replicator, and express card crammed into a tiny mini DisplayPort.
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Yeah thunderbolt will probably we the thing of the future.
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why don't you just get a macbook then?
I have the asus g73 (second picture in the thread)
it's big and those vents are huge (because they need to be... derp). But it doesn't have any flashy things to it really, it's just big, that's all. But yeah, if you're really into aesthetics, then you're going to have to sacrifice performance simply because no one has found a way to keep things cool in those smaller designs.
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edit: didn't read OP properly
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On September 26 2011 20:22 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 19:12 Jibba wrote:On September 26 2011 18:46 Womwomwom wrote:loaded with ports (which the MBP isn't.) Don't need ports when you have the Thunderbolt  Yeah, because there's so many Lightpeak devices out there. Who needs USB 3.0 or eSATA for the 99% of the market. New connections don't suddenly gain support you know. It took at least 2 years to get USB off the ground and look at us today. Even then, cables and peripherals were not cheap. Although the adoption has been mostly been in the professional market, like with that Pegasus NAS and those Matrox video I/O decks, it'll trickle down to consumer devices soon enough since Apple has finally seized a large enough of the affluent market share. Acer and ASUS have also pledged support for the connector and should have laptops with it in 2012. The speed benefit is certainly one huge benefit but Thunderbolt's strength has always been the ability to daisy chain devices together and this is something many users will find interesting. A single port on the Macbook Air can drive a 2560x1440 monitor, a Gigabit Ethernet port. 3x USB ports, 1x Firewire 800 port, audio, and webcam all simultaneously. Although this is through the $1,000 Apple Cinema Display, Belkin pretty much has a port replicator dock ready to be released for the mass market. Not just that, its potentially a huge boon for those who want to game on a laptop. Theoretically you can connect up discrete desktop video cards through the Thunderbolt port to your laptop. Thunderbolt is certainly fast but unlike USB 3.0 and eSATA, it works with just about every single thing imaginable in the market right now - its a DisplayPort, port replicator, and express card crammed into a tiny mini DisplayPort. The question isn't the technological advancement of the port, the question is how well it's adapted. It'll be some time even after Ivy Bridge comes out before you see many products for it, unless you're getting an Apple monitor. It shouldn't be a priority for any current computer, much less a gaming laptop, unless you're getting the aforementioned monitor.
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IDF 2011 already showcased a decent range of the most desired hardware for the professional and casual user including a multiple display docks, external PCIe stations, and port replicator docks (Belkin in particular has one with the same inputs as the Apple Cinema Display) so its not long before the most important peripherals start tricking out to the mass public.
I've never said it was priority to get a laptop with Thunderbolt (it isn't), my point was that Thunderbolt isn't just a really fast connector - perhaps I am wrong but you mentioned USB 3.0 and eSATA and seemed to ignore its main advantage over those two ports - and can accept multiple inputs from basically any form of input, therefore having less ports than a similar sized laptop is a complete non-issue. Yes, there isn't a cheap $100 consumer dock out right now but with Macbook Airs all over the place and Intel really pushing the Ultrabook design, you're probably going to see an appreciable amount of hardware that is Thunderbolt ready before Ivy Bridge even launches (Belkin's dock in particular is apparently launching early spring in North America).
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not exactly "gamer" but good screen and mutimedia:
The Envy 14
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On September 26 2011 18:12 killerdog wrote: Also, if you do get a high end gaming laptop, make sure you get a warranty which will replace parts if they break/overheat. I have an alienware and the 3 year accidental damage warranty cost about a tenth of the cost of the laptop aind they have already replaced 2 gtx 260m graphics cards, the screen, two i7 720qm processors and the ram. To be fair they just replace everything every time something breaks, but leave you laptop on your bed for 10 minutes and with the fans blocked it can overheat almost instantly leading to you needing to replace really hard to fid and expensive components.
um yea dont cover your vents, you dont block off your desktop's vents
i have the m11x and had no issues at all with mine beyond the hinge [fixed free out of warranty] and me screwing up my graphics drivers [but beta = fun!]
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On September 26 2011 20:58 Palmar wrote: why don't you just get a macbook then?
I have the asus g73 (second picture in the thread)
it's big and those vents are huge (because they need to be... derp). But it doesn't have any flashy things to it really, it's just big, that's all. But yeah, if you're really into aesthetics, then you're going to have to sacrifice performance simply because no one has found a way to keep things cool in those smaller designs.
Yeah, I've got the A1 version of that model and it runs awesomeeee. Plus if you had down-blowing vents like a lot of laptops, you'd burn your nutsack off, seriously. It actually manages to remain a laptop with the back-blowing vents.
Plus, imo, it looks really slick, I get compliments on it constantly. More on looks than performance, too.
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why is my G73 on the pic D: it looks like another normal laptop D:
Go for G64 if you want a very normal looking laptop, it is pretty good too.
The problem with normal laptop design is the poor cooling system, which MSI and Asus G73/4 has
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On September 26 2011 23:10 ETisME wrote: why is my G73 on the pic D: it looks like another normal laptop D:
Go for G64 if you want a very normal looking laptop, it is pretty good too.
The problem with normal laptop design is the poor cooling system, which MSI and Asus G73/4 has
I think the 2 immense jet engines behind the laptop are enough to make it quite "distinguished"
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Bumping this. I checked out the Samsung 15" Series 7 at JB Hi fi (Australia's Best Buy I guess?) today. Can someone confirm whether there are two types of Samsung Series 7 laptops (i.e low end consumer model and high end business model)? For a supposedly all aluminium laptop, it was absolute rubbish:
- I have no idea what grade aluminium it uses but either the metal is extremely thin or its actually plastic. The top of the lid is definitely brushed aluminium but the rest has the same texture as the Dell 15z... - ...the reason I suspect its not completely aluminium is because the whole thing flexes like nothing else out there. Press on the touchpad and the whole thing bows inwards. The build quality feels worse than HP and Dell's low end hardware and far worse than Asus in general. - The screen is decent but still worse than the Macbook Pro. High resolution but rather poor brightness, viewing angles and contrast. No surprises there, its only like $1,500 AUD.
It definitely didn't help that the Samsung Series 7 was right next to the Sony Vaio SB, which actually felt pretty good besides the awful ALPS trackpad and low contrast screen.
Edit: The reason I am asking is because the consensus seems to be extremely polarized. Most reports about the build quality are either "this is really horrible, what the fuck" or "this is better than the Macbook Pro", which leads me to suspect there are actually two series of Series 7 laptops - one extremely shit one and one very good one.
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a look on the samsung site shows a whole range of different samsung laptops, with different price points / usage styles in mind. But i cant confirm whether any have better build quality, not sure of a place in aus that would have a demonstartion model of an entire laptop line, maybe dick smith on a good day?
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Bagging on ASUS G73 design is like having no taste in a hot ass woman wearing booty shorts. Those 2 vents on the back make it look SICK, and the design may be a little over-the-top, but it has its uses with the vents being that large to blow the heat out of the laptop. If a design helps in performance I'm all for it. However, when I think of Alienware laptops they are overpriced bloat-tops.
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I use the Asus design that you posted and I'd like to say it's beautiful!
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