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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 13:43:15
June 14 2014 13:37 GMT
#9461
On June 14 2014 21:40 endy wrote:
My i7 is always running at the turbo speed even when I'm not using it. Like even in "Balanced" energy mode with 0% CPU usage, it's stuck on full speed.

What can I do?

You might have disabled EIST = "enhanced Intel speed-step" in the BIOS. That's the hardware feature that's used by Windows to change the CPU clock speed.

If you need it disabled to fix some sort of bug, you still shouldn't worry much. Most of the power saving is done through C3/C6 states where the cores are put to sleep and power gets cut completely.

You can take a look at that C-state business in the tool "Realtemp TI" (that "TI" is important). There's a C-states button at the bottom of its main window.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 14 2014 14:20 GMT
#9462
Until now I was only monitoring each core's speed with Speccy, and it was always maxed out. I will check EIST in the BIOS and download Realtemp TI. Thanks.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 14 2014 14:58 GMT
#9463
Monitor with this: http://www.hwinfo.com/

and not something like Speccy.

Hwinfo has a lot of windows. I usually open the sensors only thing, and if you double click on anything from there, it'll open a live chart/graph/thing (i forgot how to english) for that sensor
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
June 14 2014 15:28 GMT
#9464
There is nothing related to Speed Step in my BIOS. I did some research and found this
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?board_id=3&model=F3Sr&id=20090621131841406&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
It's an old post, but I am facing exactly the same problem.
Is there any chance that updating the BIOS will mess up with my Raid 0 config?
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
June 15 2014 16:36 GMT
#9465
I'm searching for a new graphic card and I think I'm completely out... was there a "shift" in the power supply?
There are cards out there, that mention to have a power support "2 x 6-Pin PCI-Express" or "1x 6-Pin, 1x 8-Pin"
What does this mean? My power module has only one 6-Pin connector (I think ... I'm too lazy to open my PC to check which module I have in there atm...). Does this mean, I can't use graphic cards, that need more connections or I have to switch my power module too?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
June 15 2014 17:15 GMT
#9466
Well you can use adapters with molex connectors, but having that few / none at all is usually a sign of an old, probably low-power PSU
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elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
June 16 2014 04:36 GMT
#9467
Im having a hard time installing another SC2 HoTS on my other networked pc(Im on internet cafe) I've successfully installed starter edition enUS installer to the other pc but the last one keeps displaying this "Failed to Download Required Files...". I tried installing enGB and it successfully run the installation but I uninstalled it anyway because I tried to play enGB language and my stats on enUS changed.

So my question is. This is the way I could play lan with my friend in the cafe, If I play on enUS pc and if my friend logs on to enGB pc or whatsoever language, will there be conflict or shall we see each other? I want some clarification so I could install the enGB installer instead. I dont receive any "Failed to Download Required Files.. on enGB. Thanks. Ive tried everything on the SC2 troubleshooting site. =(
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
June 16 2014 04:41 GMT
#9468
On June 16 2014 13:36 elmerpogs wrote:
Im having a hard time installing another SC2 HoTS on my other networked pc(Im on internet cafe) I've successfully installed starter edition enUS installer to the other pc but the last one keeps displaying this "Failed to Download Required Files...". I tried installing enGB and it successfully run the installation but I uninstalled it anyway because I tried to play enGB language and my stats on enUS changed.

So my question is. This is the way I could play lan with my friend in the cafe, If I play on enUS pc and if my friend logs on to enGB pc or whatsoever language, will there be conflict or shall we see each other? I want some clarification so I could install the enGB installer instead. I dont receive any "Failed to Download Required Files.. on enGB. Thanks. Ive tried everything on the SC2 troubleshooting site. =(


I dont have any problem installing the starter ed versions before reformatting them both. they have updated drivers.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 14:56:22
June 16 2014 14:54 GMT
#9469
Hello folks, Im looking for some advice diagnosing which part of my tower is broken.

So I spilled a small amount of coffee on my tower a couple weeks ago, and it broke most everything. So far iv replaced the mobo, the vcard, and the cpu. (and the case). the only things that I havnt replaced are the RAM, the PSU, and my harddrive and ssd. The computer still wont boot, it can get to bios setup but as soon as it goes to boot from either the ssd or the harddrive, it crashes almost instantly on windows startup. I am fairly certain that the problem is with the RAM or the PSU (or both) since it crashes the same way no matter the drive i boot from. Can you guys help me figure out which is busted?

any help is extremely appreciated
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 16 2014 15:48 GMT
#9470
On June 16 2014 23:54 PassiveAce wrote:
Hello folks, Im looking for some advice diagnosing which part of my tower is broken.

So I spilled a small amount of coffee on my tower a couple weeks ago, and it broke most everything. So far iv replaced the mobo, the vcard, and the cpu. (and the case). the only things that I havnt replaced are the RAM, the PSU, and my harddrive and ssd. The computer still wont boot, it can get to bios setup but as soon as it goes to boot from either the ssd or the harddrive, it crashes almost instantly on windows startup. I am fairly certain that the problem is with the RAM or the PSU (or both) since it crashes the same way no matter the drive i boot from. Can you guys help me figure out which is busted?

any help is extremely appreciated


If you're still trying to boot from the windows install that you used on your old hardware, it's quite likely to be a software issue. You could see if a fresh install starts to work at all. If it does, start over from there, or maybe there are tweaks to make old install run, though it's not the best idea to keep a windows install across mobo switches etc.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 16:47:17
June 16 2014 16:38 GMT
#9471
hmmm ok, i didnt know that could cause problems, il try that next.
iv kept this harddrive and the ssd (both of which have a windows os) across my last mobo switch and it didnt cause any problems though.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 16 2014 16:52 GMT
#9472
On June 16 2014 02:15 Craton wrote:
Well you can use adapters with molex connectors, but having that few / none at all is usually a sign of an old, probably low-power PSU


This is when getting a GTX 750 is nice
maru lover forever
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 17:51:14
June 16 2014 17:47 GMT
#9473
I'm getting some weird hangs/freezes on my pretty new stationary pc. It's been fine since I got it (~4 weeks ago now) up until last friday, when it crashed twice, then again two more times over the weekend. Maybe 5 times total over 4-5 hours of gaming use.

Basically either the screen starts flickering for a second or two, then freezes and starts a long beep at me, or all the pixels turn one colour for a few seconds, then it reverts to a frozen image of what I was doing before, and starts beeping at me. sometimes the sound stays fine, just playing the background noise/music of wherever i was in game. (I've been playing wildstar, and it is a bit buggy of a game, but that shouldn't cause my whole system to hang?)

No crash dumps, and it will sit frozen until I turn it off. Not even a mention of it in event viewer, except for the "unexpected shutdown" when i restart it~

CPU temps are all below 60 (mainly 40-50) and gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.) I'll probably make a thread later if it proves to be not easily solveable, just running memtest right now. (2 passes done, no errors.)

Also note, one time on saturday i had the flickering, freeze for a few seconds, then right before i restarted it came back with a "memory at xxxx could not be referenced" style popup, can't remember the exact phrasing (I suck I know T.T) then worked fine. This killed wildstar in the process.

windows 8.1 (64 bit)
i5 4670k (at stock, massive cooler)
asus gtx 780 oc (running at factory settings)
8gb hyperx something ram
120gb ssd with windows+wildstar, and a 2tb harddrive for misc
asus z87-a mobo
650/750W psu (can't remember off the top of my head)

No idea what's causing it, any ideas?

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-16 19:14:47
June 16 2014 18:28 GMT
#9474
gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.)


That seems way too cold. What temperature does it get to when running Unigine Heaven 4.0 (at what fan speeds?) and what clock speeds is it running at? GPU core + memory. What kind of FPS number do you get from running the 1600x900 extreme preset benchmark there? Furmark isn't a good test, and is probably throttling.

For Heaven 4.0 extreme benchmark preset, i'd expect maybe a hair over 40fps for a 760, ~52 for a 770 (my score is 53.3) and ~70's for a 780 at decent clocks. I really doubt that you can easily keep temps in the 60's with a 780 during that, though.

I'd expect your temps to be in the 70's to 80 range, with clock speeds around 1100 on the core after 5 minutes of load - just a wild guess though, i'm not really sure exactly how they run or how your room temperature and cooling situation with case etc is.

Are you running the 337.88 driver? That's probably the most important thing.

That message is a pretty standard "welp the game crashed" message for wildstar when you have problems from other sources, so i wouldn't point it to RAM at all.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 11:51:05
June 17 2014 11:45 GMT
#9475
On June 17 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.)


That seems way too cold. What temperature does it get to when running Unigine Heaven 4.0 (at what fan speeds?) and what clock speeds is it running at? GPU core + memory. What kind of FPS number do you get from running the 1600x900 extreme preset benchmark there? Furmark isn't a good test, and is probably throttling.

For Heaven 4.0 extreme benchmark preset, i'd expect maybe a hair over 40fps for a 760, ~52 for a 770 (my score is 53.3) and ~70's for a 780 at decent clocks. I really doubt that you can easily keep temps in the 60's with a 780 during that, though.

I'd expect your temps to be in the 70's to 80 range, with clock speeds around 1100 on the core after 5 minutes of load - just a wild guess though, i'm not really sure exactly how they run or how your room temperature and cooling situation with case etc is.

Are you running the 337.88 driver? That's probably the most important thing.

That message is a pretty standard "welp the game crashed" message for wildstar when you have problems from other sources, so i wouldn't point it to RAM at all.

Ran the heaven benchmark. I let it sit running it for ~10 minute before benchmarking, so after ~15 minutes of load, it was sitting at 78-79, and stayed between 78 and 80 for another 10 minutes til i closed it. Got mid 60s fps + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. According to afterburner the clock on the 780 stayed constant at 1032 throughout. fan went up to 2k rpm at peak. (Note, it's boiling in my room, like almost 30 degrees, screw summer >.>)

I thought it might be the ram because it wasn't creating any crash dumps, probably not the best reasoning but i checked it anyway and it seems fine. It's happened both with the newest (337.88) and the driver before that (337.something) Also did a clean install (wiped with driversweeper then reinstalled newest nvidia drivers.) This morning and it's happened again since.

Also I had another crash, bluescreen this time, earlier today when all i was doing was watching a video. This time I got a crash dump, screencap of whocrashed summary of that here. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

Could it be my deathadder driver killing stuff? I haven't changed it since I first installed it ~35 days ago, but it only started acting up last friday. I have been having some issues with the mouse, it occasionally doesn't register right cliks (like once every now and then) and that's annoying, but i figured it was just the mouse dying, since it's like 4+ years old
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 14:34:48
June 17 2014 12:20 GMT
#9476
On June 17 2014 20:45 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.)


That seems way too cold. What temperature does it get to when running Unigine Heaven 4.0 (at what fan speeds?) and what clock speeds is it running at? GPU core + memory. What kind of FPS number do you get from running the 1600x900 extreme preset benchmark there? Furmark isn't a good test, and is probably throttling.

For Heaven 4.0 extreme benchmark preset, i'd expect maybe a hair over 40fps for a 760, ~52 for a 770 (my score is 53.3) and ~70's for a 780 at decent clocks. I really doubt that you can easily keep temps in the 60's with a 780 during that, though.

I'd expect your temps to be in the 70's to 80 range, with clock speeds around 1100 on the core after 5 minutes of load - just a wild guess though, i'm not really sure exactly how they run or how your room temperature and cooling situation with case etc is.

Are you running the 337.88 driver? That's probably the most important thing.

That message is a pretty standard "welp the game crashed" message for wildstar when you have problems from other sources, so i wouldn't point it to RAM at all.

Ran the heaven benchmark. I let it sit running it for ~10 minute before benchmarking, so after ~15 minutes of load, it was sitting at 78-79, and stayed between 78 and 80 for another 10 minutes til i closed it. Got mid 60s fps + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. According to afterburner the clock on the 780 stayed constant at 1032 throughout. fan went up to 2k rpm at peak. (Note, it's boiling in my room, like almost 30 degrees, screw summer >.>)

I thought it might be the ram because it wasn't creating any crash dumps, probably not the best reasoning but i checked it anyway and it seems fine. It's happened both with the newest (337.88) and the driver before that (337.something) Also did a clean install (wiped with driversweeper then reinstalled newest nvidia drivers.) This morning and it's happened again since.

Also I had another crash, bluescreen this time, earlier today when all i was doing was watching a video. This time I got a crash dump, screencap of whocrashed summary of that here. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

Could it be my deathadder driver killing stuff? I haven't changed it since I first installed it ~35 days ago, but it only started acting up last friday. I have been having some issues with the mouse, it occasionally doesn't register right cliks (like once every now and then) and that's annoying, but i figured it was just the mouse dying, since it's like 4+ years old


Try the driver family before 337. I'm not sure of that code or other stuff. Might be gpu/driver problem, might be something else completely different, i dunno

your 780 is temperature throttling (well, not using boost or potential overclock) so you're getting worse performance than you are "supposed" to, at stock they run like 1150mhz and you can OC to around 1300, so 1032 sitting at the temperature throttle point is not that good. It's harmless like that, but it will raise fan speed to hold the clock speed and temperature AFAIK and you won't get anything higher than the pretty low base clock. If i was you, i would be improving cooling, looking at airflow in case, gpu fan curve etc. Ofc if your room is 10c hotter, your GPU will be as well, too.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
June 17 2014 17:54 GMT
#9477
On June 17 2014 21:20 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 20:45 killerdog wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.)


That seems way too cold. What temperature does it get to when running Unigine Heaven 4.0 (at what fan speeds?) and what clock speeds is it running at? GPU core + memory. What kind of FPS number do you get from running the 1600x900 extreme preset benchmark there? Furmark isn't a good test, and is probably throttling.

For Heaven 4.0 extreme benchmark preset, i'd expect maybe a hair over 40fps for a 760, ~52 for a 770 (my score is 53.3) and ~70's for a 780 at decent clocks. I really doubt that you can easily keep temps in the 60's with a 780 during that, though.

I'd expect your temps to be in the 70's to 80 range, with clock speeds around 1100 on the core after 5 minutes of load - just a wild guess though, i'm not really sure exactly how they run or how your room temperature and cooling situation with case etc is.

Are you running the 337.88 driver? That's probably the most important thing.

That message is a pretty standard "welp the game crashed" message for wildstar when you have problems from other sources, so i wouldn't point it to RAM at all.

Ran the heaven benchmark. I let it sit running it for ~10 minute before benchmarking, so after ~15 minutes of load, it was sitting at 78-79, and stayed between 78 and 80 for another 10 minutes til i closed it. Got mid 60s fps + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. According to afterburner the clock on the 780 stayed constant at 1032 throughout. fan went up to 2k rpm at peak. (Note, it's boiling in my room, like almost 30 degrees, screw summer >.>)

I thought it might be the ram because it wasn't creating any crash dumps, probably not the best reasoning but i checked it anyway and it seems fine. It's happened both with the newest (337.88) and the driver before that (337.something) Also did a clean install (wiped with driversweeper then reinstalled newest nvidia drivers.) This morning and it's happened again since.

Also I had another crash, bluescreen this time, earlier today when all i was doing was watching a video. This time I got a crash dump, screencap of whocrashed summary of that here. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

Could it be my deathadder driver killing stuff? I haven't changed it since I first installed it ~35 days ago, but it only started acting up last friday. I have been having some issues with the mouse, it occasionally doesn't register right cliks (like once every now and then) and that's annoying, but i figured it was just the mouse dying, since it's like 4+ years old


Try the driver family before 337. I'm not sure of that code or other stuff. Might be gpu/driver problem, might be something else completely different, i dunno

your 780 is temperature throttling (well, not using boost or potential overclock) so you're getting worse performance than you are "supposed" to, at stock they run like 1150mhz and you can OC to around 1300, so 1032 sitting at the temperature throttle point is not that good. It's harmless like that, but it will raise fan speed to hold the clock speed and temperature AFAIK and you won't get anything higher than the pretty low base clock. If i was you, i would be improving cooling, looking at airflow in case, gpu fan curve etc. Ofc if your room is 10c hotter, your GPU will be as well, too.

I'll probably be grabbing some extra case fans later in the summer. Have a define r4 case, and i'm still running just on the two case fans which came with it, but I'm about to leave for a few weeks and it would be nice to get the stability (bsod/hangs) issues sorted before then :p

Ran a sfc scan in safemode, which apparently fixed some things, so fingers crossed now.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 18:37:11
June 17 2014 18:28 GMT
#9478
On June 18 2014 02:54 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2014 21:20 Cyro wrote:
On June 17 2014 20:45 killerdog wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.)


That seems way too cold. What temperature does it get to when running Unigine Heaven 4.0 (at what fan speeds?) and what clock speeds is it running at? GPU core + memory. What kind of FPS number do you get from running the 1600x900 extreme preset benchmark there? Furmark isn't a good test, and is probably throttling.

For Heaven 4.0 extreme benchmark preset, i'd expect maybe a hair over 40fps for a 760, ~52 for a 770 (my score is 53.3) and ~70's for a 780 at decent clocks. I really doubt that you can easily keep temps in the 60's with a 780 during that, though.

I'd expect your temps to be in the 70's to 80 range, with clock speeds around 1100 on the core after 5 minutes of load - just a wild guess though, i'm not really sure exactly how they run or how your room temperature and cooling situation with case etc is.

Are you running the 337.88 driver? That's probably the most important thing.

That message is a pretty standard "welp the game crashed" message for wildstar when you have problems from other sources, so i wouldn't point it to RAM at all.

Ran the heaven benchmark. I let it sit running it for ~10 minute before benchmarking, so after ~15 minutes of load, it was sitting at 78-79, and stayed between 78 and 80 for another 10 minutes til i closed it. Got mid 60s fps + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. According to afterburner the clock on the 780 stayed constant at 1032 throughout. fan went up to 2k rpm at peak. (Note, it's boiling in my room, like almost 30 degrees, screw summer >.>)

I thought it might be the ram because it wasn't creating any crash dumps, probably not the best reasoning but i checked it anyway and it seems fine. It's happened both with the newest (337.88) and the driver before that (337.something) Also did a clean install (wiped with driversweeper then reinstalled newest nvidia drivers.) This morning and it's happened again since.

Also I had another crash, bluescreen this time, earlier today when all i was doing was watching a video. This time I got a crash dump, screencap of whocrashed summary of that here. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

Could it be my deathadder driver killing stuff? I haven't changed it since I first installed it ~35 days ago, but it only started acting up last friday. I have been having some issues with the mouse, it occasionally doesn't register right cliks (like once every now and then) and that's annoying, but i figured it was just the mouse dying, since it's like 4+ years old


Try the driver family before 337. I'm not sure of that code or other stuff. Might be gpu/driver problem, might be something else completely different, i dunno

your 780 is temperature throttling (well, not using boost or potential overclock) so you're getting worse performance than you are "supposed" to, at stock they run like 1150mhz and you can OC to around 1300, so 1032 sitting at the temperature throttle point is not that good. It's harmless like that, but it will raise fan speed to hold the clock speed and temperature AFAIK and you won't get anything higher than the pretty low base clock. If i was you, i would be improving cooling, looking at airflow in case, gpu fan curve etc. Ofc if your room is 10c hotter, your GPU will be as well, too.

I'll probably be grabbing some extra case fans later in the summer. Have a define r4 case, and i'm still running just on the two case fans which came with it, but I'm about to leave for a few weeks and it would be nice to get the stability (bsod/hangs) issues sorted before then :p

Ran a sfc scan in safemode, which apparently fixed some things, so fingers crossed now.


You need some pretty serious changes to get from 1032mhz @80c to 1250mhz @70-75c. At least strong fans, gpu in right slot, pci-e slot covers off, uninterrupted airflow path and maybe even side panel off if the case is heating up more than a tiny bit. General low room temps and an open area around the exhaust areas of the case help too (under desk = bad)

If you don't care for that last 20% performance it doesn't matter, but then again who wants to pay for a 780 over a 770 and get +20% performance when they could get +40%?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 18:57:33
June 17 2014 18:56 GMT
#9479
On June 18 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
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On June 18 2014 02:54 killerdog wrote:
On June 17 2014 21:20 Cyro wrote:
On June 17 2014 20:45 killerdog wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.)


That seems way too cold. What temperature does it get to when running Unigine Heaven 4.0 (at what fan speeds?) and what clock speeds is it running at? GPU core + memory. What kind of FPS number do you get from running the 1600x900 extreme preset benchmark there? Furmark isn't a good test, and is probably throttling.

For Heaven 4.0 extreme benchmark preset, i'd expect maybe a hair over 40fps for a 760, ~52 for a 770 (my score is 53.3) and ~70's for a 780 at decent clocks. I really doubt that you can easily keep temps in the 60's with a 780 during that, though.

I'd expect your temps to be in the 70's to 80 range, with clock speeds around 1100 on the core after 5 minutes of load - just a wild guess though, i'm not really sure exactly how they run or how your room temperature and cooling situation with case etc is.

Are you running the 337.88 driver? That's probably the most important thing.

That message is a pretty standard "welp the game crashed" message for wildstar when you have problems from other sources, so i wouldn't point it to RAM at all.

Ran the heaven benchmark. I let it sit running it for ~10 minute before benchmarking, so after ~15 minutes of load, it was sitting at 78-79, and stayed between 78 and 80 for another 10 minutes til i closed it. Got mid 60s fps + Show Spoiler +
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. According to afterburner the clock on the 780 stayed constant at 1032 throughout. fan went up to 2k rpm at peak. (Note, it's boiling in my room, like almost 30 degrees, screw summer >.>)

I thought it might be the ram because it wasn't creating any crash dumps, probably not the best reasoning but i checked it anyway and it seems fine. It's happened both with the newest (337.88) and the driver before that (337.something) Also did a clean install (wiped with driversweeper then reinstalled newest nvidia drivers.) This morning and it's happened again since.

Also I had another crash, bluescreen this time, earlier today when all i was doing was watching a video. This time I got a crash dump, screencap of whocrashed summary of that here. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

Could it be my deathadder driver killing stuff? I haven't changed it since I first installed it ~35 days ago, but it only started acting up last friday. I have been having some issues with the mouse, it occasionally doesn't register right cliks (like once every now and then) and that's annoying, but i figured it was just the mouse dying, since it's like 4+ years old


Try the driver family before 337. I'm not sure of that code or other stuff. Might be gpu/driver problem, might be something else completely different, i dunno

your 780 is temperature throttling (well, not using boost or potential overclock) so you're getting worse performance than you are "supposed" to, at stock they run like 1150mhz and you can OC to around 1300, so 1032 sitting at the temperature throttle point is not that good. It's harmless like that, but it will raise fan speed to hold the clock speed and temperature AFAIK and you won't get anything higher than the pretty low base clock. If i was you, i would be improving cooling, looking at airflow in case, gpu fan curve etc. Ofc if your room is 10c hotter, your GPU will be as well, too.

I'll probably be grabbing some extra case fans later in the summer. Have a define r4 case, and i'm still running just on the two case fans which came with it, but I'm about to leave for a few weeks and it would be nice to get the stability (bsod/hangs) issues sorted before then :p

Ran a sfc scan in safemode, which apparently fixed some things, so fingers crossed now.


You need some pretty serious changes to get from 1032mhz @80c to 1250mhz @70-75c. At least strong fans, gpu in right slot, pci-e slot covers off, uninterrupted airflow path and maybe even side panel off if the case is heating up more than a tiny bit. General low room temps and an open area around the exhaust areas of the case help too (under desk = bad)

If you don't care for that last 20% performance it doesn't matter, but then again who wants to pay for a 780 over a 770 and get +20% performance when they could get +40%?

I still don't even have the desk I'm planning to use yet, so it's just sitting in the corner surrounded by boxes. Getting everything sorted properly, making the case neat etc is probably going to be a summer project at some point, but right now I'm just trying to make it work, hard to optimise performance when the machine suddenly can't stay turned on

Crashes seem to be getting more common, now it's dying >once an hour, screen flickering into hanging.

Not temp related (it's happened with gpu and cpu both under 40 at one point), not ram, rolled back all drivers, no new peripherals or software installed at all, checked all the connections in the case. I guess I'll look into if there's a newer bios version tonight, but I doubt that's the problem and have no idea at all where to look if that fails.
Cyro
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June 17 2014 19:05 GMT
#9480
On June 18 2014 03:56 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
On June 18 2014 02:54 killerdog wrote:
On June 17 2014 21:20 Cyro wrote:
On June 17 2014 20:45 killerdog wrote:
On June 17 2014 03:28 Cyro wrote:
gpu never goes above high 60s. (Also ran furmark for 45 minutes and it peaked at 69 during that.)


That seems way too cold. What temperature does it get to when running Unigine Heaven 4.0 (at what fan speeds?) and what clock speeds is it running at? GPU core + memory. What kind of FPS number do you get from running the 1600x900 extreme preset benchmark there? Furmark isn't a good test, and is probably throttling.

For Heaven 4.0 extreme benchmark preset, i'd expect maybe a hair over 40fps for a 760, ~52 for a 770 (my score is 53.3) and ~70's for a 780 at decent clocks. I really doubt that you can easily keep temps in the 60's with a 780 during that, though.

I'd expect your temps to be in the 70's to 80 range, with clock speeds around 1100 on the core after 5 minutes of load - just a wild guess though, i'm not really sure exactly how they run or how your room temperature and cooling situation with case etc is.

Are you running the 337.88 driver? That's probably the most important thing.

That message is a pretty standard "welp the game crashed" message for wildstar when you have problems from other sources, so i wouldn't point it to RAM at all.

Ran the heaven benchmark. I let it sit running it for ~10 minute before benchmarking, so after ~15 minutes of load, it was sitting at 78-79, and stayed between 78 and 80 for another 10 minutes til i closed it. Got mid 60s fps + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
. According to afterburner the clock on the 780 stayed constant at 1032 throughout. fan went up to 2k rpm at peak. (Note, it's boiling in my room, like almost 30 degrees, screw summer >.>)

I thought it might be the ram because it wasn't creating any crash dumps, probably not the best reasoning but i checked it anyway and it seems fine. It's happened both with the newest (337.88) and the driver before that (337.something) Also did a clean install (wiped with driversweeper then reinstalled newest nvidia drivers.) This morning and it's happened again since.

Also I had another crash, bluescreen this time, earlier today when all i was doing was watching a video. This time I got a crash dump, screencap of whocrashed summary of that here. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
.

Could it be my deathadder driver killing stuff? I haven't changed it since I first installed it ~35 days ago, but it only started acting up last friday. I have been having some issues with the mouse, it occasionally doesn't register right cliks (like once every now and then) and that's annoying, but i figured it was just the mouse dying, since it's like 4+ years old


Try the driver family before 337. I'm not sure of that code or other stuff. Might be gpu/driver problem, might be something else completely different, i dunno

your 780 is temperature throttling (well, not using boost or potential overclock) so you're getting worse performance than you are "supposed" to, at stock they run like 1150mhz and you can OC to around 1300, so 1032 sitting at the temperature throttle point is not that good. It's harmless like that, but it will raise fan speed to hold the clock speed and temperature AFAIK and you won't get anything higher than the pretty low base clock. If i was you, i would be improving cooling, looking at airflow in case, gpu fan curve etc. Ofc if your room is 10c hotter, your GPU will be as well, too.

I'll probably be grabbing some extra case fans later in the summer. Have a define r4 case, and i'm still running just on the two case fans which came with it, but I'm about to leave for a few weeks and it would be nice to get the stability (bsod/hangs) issues sorted before then :p

Ran a sfc scan in safemode, which apparently fixed some things, so fingers crossed now.


You need some pretty serious changes to get from 1032mhz @80c to 1250mhz @70-75c. At least strong fans, gpu in right slot, pci-e slot covers off, uninterrupted airflow path and maybe even side panel off if the case is heating up more than a tiny bit. General low room temps and an open area around the exhaust areas of the case help too (under desk = bad)

If you don't care for that last 20% performance it doesn't matter, but then again who wants to pay for a 780 over a 770 and get +20% performance when they could get +40%?

I still don't even have the desk I'm planning to use yet, so it's just sitting in the corner surrounded by boxes. Getting everything sorted properly, making the case neat etc is probably going to be a summer project at some point, but right now I'm just trying to make it work, hard to optimise performance when the machine suddenly can't stay turned on

Crashes seem to be getting more common, now it's dying >once an hour, screen flickering into hanging.

Not temp related (it's happened with gpu and cpu both under 40 at one point), not ram, rolled back all drivers, no new peripherals or software installed at all, checked all the connections in the case. I guess I'll look into if there's a newer bios version tonight, but I doubt that's the problem and have no idea at all where to look if that fails.


set pci-e generation to 2.0 in the bios, aside from that i dunno
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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