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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19393 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
/(hyper 212, most 3570ks can do 4.6ghz at 1.3v, which the hyper 212 can cool just about, even under synthetic load Man people won't get 1.3v cooled with a 212 in almost all cases even if you let it get to 95c with synthetic load | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 14 2013 06:59 BisuDagger wrote: Simple Question! I want a computer on par with Alienware. Is there a place where I can customize a laptop online to meet the specs at a better price or should I go with the solid beast masters of computers? (I already have an awesome desktop so focus on laptops only) A lot of the competing brands like Asus, MSI, and Toshiba also sell relatively large laptops with relatively high-power GPUs. Others don't have such offerings in their lineup. But you can configure those somewhat on their websites. Or just find the correct model available for sale elsewhere. For higher customization, outfits such as Sager, xoticpc, Cyberpower, AVADirect, etc., etc. (there are a lot of them) customize and outfit OEM laptop designs / shells from Clevo, Compal, MSI, Asus, and the like. Usually the Alienwares have better than average build quality and cooling systems, and they carry a price premium. You might be able to find similar hardware specs elsewhere at a significantly lower price, but that may be with less robust cooling, a plasticky build, and some other inferior attributes. But some of the alternatives are going to be comparable with the Alienwares in those aspects (while still being cheaper, usually). You just need to look around. Keep in mind that you may sometimes be able to find good sales on models available from an e-tailer that put them under the price of what you can get with more customization options elsewhere. If you're dedicated, lurk slickdeals or maybe just here if you're lazy. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
On August 14 2013 11:27 Cyro wrote: Man people won't get 1.3v cooled with a 212 in almost all cases even if you let it get to 95c with synthetic load I feel I should point out two things - I'm the US, so prices may be slightly different with conversion/supply differences. And on this specific point, I live in Florida - which means my ambient temperature is usually around 80 F or 26 C, although it can vary in part because of seasons and the way my apartment's air conditioner runs. I have dreams of liquid cooling or even mineral oil immersion, but that's just semi-realistic to wtf levels of fantasy. Thanks again for the infoz. On August 14 2013 11:48 Myrmidon wrote: A lot of the competing brands like Asus, MSI, and Toshiba also sell relatively large laptops with relatively high-power GPUs. Others don't have such offerings in their lineup. But you can configure those somewhat on their websites. Or just find the correct model available for sale elsewhere. For higher customization, outfits such as Sager, xoticpc, Cyberpower, AVADirect, etc., etc. (there are a lot of them) customize and outfit OEM laptop designs / shells from Clevo, Compal, MSI, Asus, and the like. Usually the Alienwares have better than average build quality and cooling systems, and they carry a price premium. You might be able to find similar hardware specs elsewhere at a significantly lower price, but that may be with less robust cooling, a plasticky build, and some other inferior attributes. But some of the alternatives are going to be comparable with the Alienwares in those aspects (while still being cheaper, usually). You just need to look around. Keep in mind that you may sometimes be able to find good sales on models available from an e-tailer that put them under the price of what you can get with more customization options elsewhere. If you're dedicated, lurk slickdeals or maybe just here if you're lazy. You may also want to check against iBuyPower - they sponsor a lot of things, and one of my coworkers (non-gamer) has a Valkyrie he configured with them in part because the price was better than Alienware. He likes it, does a lot of heavy video editing on it, but of course YMMV. | ||
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Goldfish
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So I got the video card, installed it (before I uninstalled all drivers first). Anyway, windows automatically downloaded the latest nvidia drivers for my card (which I didn't want since I heard of some problems with the latest ones but decided to stick with it). Computer/games have been running great so far, for about over a week with no crashes or anything.. until now  .As I was playing a game, "display driver has crashed and restarted" shows up. (Also it took down firefox with it too.) However, I was semi-asleep and didn't notice whether video artifacts occured before or not (I don't think I noticed it). Before, there were blocks of random colors before it crashed. This time, I didn't catch it in time (I was half asleep >.>). Is there anyway I can check logs of display driver crashed and restarted to see if this problem was similar to the old one? I think the new video card did help fix the problem though. Before, it happened once per day or two. Now it hasn't happened over a week (only happened recently, a few minutes ago). Speaking of that, anyone else with similar problems using Nvidia card with latest drivers? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
freak out when it happens 10+ times What driver in particular did you get? | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19393 Posts
On August 14 2013 11:48 Myrmidon wrote: A lot of the competing brands like Asus, MSI, and Toshiba also sell relatively large laptops with relatively high-power GPUs. Others don't have such offerings in their lineup. But you can configure those somewhat on their websites. Or just find the correct model available for sale elsewhere. For higher customization, outfits such as Sager, xoticpc, Cyberpower, AVADirect, etc., etc. (there are a lot of them) customize and outfit OEM laptop designs / shells from Clevo, Compal, MSI, Asus, and the like. Usually the Alienwares have better than average build quality and cooling systems, and they carry a price premium. You might be able to find similar hardware specs elsewhere at a significantly lower price, but that may be with less robust cooling, a plasticky build, and some other inferior attributes. But some of the alternatives are going to be comparable with the Alienwares in those aspects (while still being cheaper, usually). You just need to look around. Keep in mind that you may sometimes be able to find good sales on models available from an e-tailer that put them under the price of what you can get with more customization options elsewhere. If you're dedicated, lurk slickdeals or maybe just here if you're lazy. Perfect reply from the blue. Thanks man. This was exactly what I wanted to hear. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On August 14 2013 14:56 Cyro wrote: Your driver soft crashed once, dont freak out (: freak out when it happens 10+ times What driver in particular did you get? So according to someone on the nvidia forums, TDR dumps are here "C:\Windows\LiveKernelReports\WATCHDOG" As for driver - Windows automatically installed 320.49. I looked at the date of the creation and 8/13/2013 10:30 PM is when the latest one happened (little more than 30 mins ago). 8/8/2013 was when the last one before that happened (before I replace my video card with a new one). Before then, it crashed in intervals of 1-5 days (average 1-2 days, though there was a rare one time, during that period, where it didn't crash for 5 days either). Anyone know if the dump files can show whether the latest crash is similar to the crashes I had before? I hope it's just something iffy with the latest drivers (I'll try downgrading and using another version). But yeah, I'm bummed out . It really seemed that replacing the card did it, since there were no crashes for 5 great days (hopefully it did, maybe this is just related to something else that can easily be fixed).Edit - I guess I'll leave my computer on to see if it happens again. Hardware wise, what else could cause this problem? Could RAM be an issue? Edit 2 - Also is it normal that Firefox keeps crashing with the timeout detection and recover? Though there was one time where Firefox didn't crash when that happened. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You should probably uninstall the driver and then re-install it without all the Nvidia crap like 3D, Sound, Update Tool, etc. If it happened once then don't worry much about it. | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On August 14 2013 11:27 Cyro wrote: Man people won't get 1.3v cooled with a 212 in almost all cases even if you let it get to 95c with synthetic load My own system peaked at 92 after several hours of IBT @ 6000MB, and that was with the most adequate airflow. True, I had reasonable ambients (probably around 19 deg). At the very least it's reasonable to expect 4.5gjx out of a 212/3570k (I have seen over a dozen 3570ks get those results without much effort) and that's almost equal to the much more expensive Haswell setup (much more exp mobo and marginally more exp CPU + cooling). Not to mention gaming doesn't require as much thermal headroom as benching does. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On August 14 2013 23:25 Gumbi wrote: My own system peaked at 92 after several hours of IBT @ 6000MB, and that was with the most adequate airflow. True, I had reasonable ambients (probably around 19 deg). At the very least it's reasonable to expect 4.5gjx out of a 212/3570k (I have seen over a dozen 3570ks get those results without much effort) and that's almost equal to the much more expensive Haswell setup (much more exp mobo and marginally more exp CPU + cooling). Not to mention gaming doesn't require as much thermal headroom as benching does. *without the most adequate airflow.  | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On August 15 2013 01:47 Cyro wrote: Maybe, but i find it hard to to justify step down from haswell. It's not like you need better cooling from haswell to run an equally performing clock, not even close. I'm pretty sure 1.2v on haswell is at least equal or better to 1.25 on ivy in terms of heat on the cores under a normal high load say x264, they're pretty close. On the US market maybe, but UK with £26 true spirit 140's, £40 h100 refurbs and coolers like the silver arrow coming in at £50 it seems like most of the time an unneccesary step down; though you can save on the mobo, and the cpu True dat, true dat. But check the price diff (including CPU + mobo is still over 50 euro). I'm not saying go for Ivy. I'm saying it's a viable option if money is tight, and depending on how tight, is a better option. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
my desktop monitor cant detec DVI cable (went from "no signal > standby mode") then i tried hdmi cable and it works but currently i am suffering a weird resolution display, so how do i make my DVI cable work again. EDIT: ITS DVI CABLE NOT VGA | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
Are the HDMI and VGA close to each other? I'm curious if you are plugging the VGA into the motherboard and the HDMI into the graphics card - Does it have a DVI port too? | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
If you disconnect both cables, does the monitor do its "self-test"? it says " cable not connected" - Does it have a DVI port too? i got VGA and DVI mixed up,actually its DVI cable not working ------ now i got a new problem,wtf is wrong with my pc today T___T, i have my GEforce 560 in my cpu and it cant be detected and it became "intel 3000" graphic card or soemthing https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/972160_679343085426369_133171301_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/s403x403/1000946_679400295420648_2088057944_n.jpg now i am playing d3 and LoL and my FPS for both is extemely bad T_T | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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