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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
May 23 2013 00:01 GMT
#6641
Second (because the first pass is only done in 2-pass encoding) but it's much much less important than how that CPU runs the game (performance numbers there) though they are different and complicated factors
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 23:35:42
May 23 2013 20:32 GMT
#6642
Welp my laptop just crushed on me in the middle of a DJ set, looked like a hardware failure.
I can't risk this fucker crashing again, figured with memorial day coming it may be a good time get a good deal on a new one. Hoping u guys can point me in the right direction (again:D)

Budget: $1000-$1500 (can pay more if it would make a big difference but figured 15 would be enough)
Uses: DJing, Gaming, possible office work later.
Display: 15 or 17, (15 more convenient for work)

Saw this one so far from this thread, $870 + tax id assume around 940. Seems to fit and my #1 choice now, but I can spend a bit more for long-term use, plus it will ship late=/
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/builder.workflow:Enter?sb=:000001C9:0000C50D:

So far my other choice is msi gx60, can get that one for $1000 or $880 refurbished.

Any thoughts? thanks in advance
edit - bought the lenovo one after all
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Arctyrus
Profile Joined June 2012
Denmark77 Posts
May 23 2013 21:46 GMT
#6643
Hello awesome tech gurus of TL

I've been looking to buy a new laptop designed with portability in mind, but with enough power to run SC2 in decent graphics. (Preferably ultra, but that might not be feasible).

And so I stumbled across this laptop:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Chronos-770Z5E-S01DE-Notebook.91341.0.html

It seems to suit my purpose very well, and in the test they record a battery time of 10h 42m with WLAN (!!), which to me seems ridiculous compared to other laptops on the market.

So my questions are these:

1) Is there any reason to believe Samsung has struck gold on batterylife, or is it a fluke, and I should expect batterylife around 5-6 hours or even lower?
2) How is Samsungs reputation concerning laptops? I've never heard much about them in that field
3) Is there anything about the Samsung model that could turn into a problem? (Like the Enduro switching which I've heard mixed reviews of.)
4) Speaking of graphics how is the reputation for AMD, in particular AMD Radeon HD 8870M?
5) Is it worth waiting for the upcoming Haswell processors from intel, and possibly combine it with a newer 700 generation geforce graphics card?

Thanks in advance, if you can answer any of my questions, it'd really help me out a great deal deciding which laptop to buy
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 22:44:59
May 23 2013 22:39 GMT
#6644
On May 24 2013 06:46 Arctyrus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello awesome tech gurus of TL

I've been looking to buy a new laptop designed with portability in mind, but with enough power to run SC2 in decent graphics. (Preferably ultra, but that might not be feasible).

And so I stumbled across this laptop:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Chronos-770Z5E-S01DE-Notebook.91341.0.html

It seems to suit my purpose very well, and in the test they record a battery time of 10h 42m with WLAN (!!), which to me seems ridiculous compared to other laptops on the market.

So my questions are these:

1) Is there any reason to believe Samsung has struck gold on batterylife, or is it a fluke, and I should expect batterylife around 5-6 hours or even lower?
2) How is Samsungs reputation concerning laptops? I've never heard much about them in that field
3) Is there anything about the Samsung model that could turn into a problem? (Like the Enduro switching which I've heard mixed reviews of.)
4) Speaking of graphics how is the reputation for AMD, in particular AMD Radeon HD 8870M?
5) Is it worth waiting for the upcoming Haswell processors from intel, and possibly combine it with a newer 700 generation geforce graphics card?

Thanks in advance, if you can answer any of my questions, it'd really help me out a great deal deciding which laptop to buy


1. It's got a humongous 91Wh battery so it's not too surprising. Ivy Bridge is really efficient at idle with periods of low load. To possibly get even a bit more, I'd disable HyperThreading and use a custom power profile with a CPU speed limit of 50% - not noticeable when just web surfing.
2. -
3. -
4. Should be fine, nothing noteworthy. It's a pretty high-end mobile video card. It's more than enough for SC2 [Edit: probably medium/high settings @ 1080p, definitely without AA], but there are other things about the laptop that make it stand out.
5. I'd like to know also

One very important thing about this model is that the display is exemplary. 1400:1 contrast with that sRGB coverage and decent gamma curves (just a slight blue tint) is very rare in the mobile space, but the price tag reflects that. It's still a TN screen so viewing angles aren't good but it will look great viewed head-on.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Arctyrus
Profile Joined June 2012
Denmark77 Posts
May 23 2013 22:48 GMT
#6645
On May 24 2013 07:39 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 06:46 Arctyrus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello awesome tech gurus of TL

I've been looking to buy a new laptop designed with portability in mind, but with enough power to run SC2 in decent graphics. (Preferably ultra, but that might not be feasible).

And so I stumbled across this laptop:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Chronos-770Z5E-S01DE-Notebook.91341.0.html

It seems to suit my purpose very well, and in the test they record a battery time of 10h 42m with WLAN (!!), which to me seems ridiculous compared to other laptops on the market.

So my questions are these:

1) Is there any reason to believe Samsung has struck gold on batterylife, or is it a fluke, and I should expect batterylife around 5-6 hours or even lower?
2) How is Samsungs reputation concerning laptops? I've never heard much about them in that field
3) Is there anything about the Samsung model that could turn into a problem? (Like the Enduro switching which I've heard mixed reviews of.)
4) Speaking of graphics how is the reputation for AMD, in particular AMD Radeon HD 8870M?
5) Is it worth waiting for the upcoming Haswell processors from intel, and possibly combine it with a newer 700 generation geforce graphics card?

Thanks in advance, if you can answer any of my questions, it'd really help me out a great deal deciding which laptop to buy

+ Show Spoiler +

1. It's got a humongous 91Wh battery so it's not too surprising. Ivy Bridge is really efficient at idle with periods of low load. To possibly get even a bit more, I'd disable HyperThreading and use a custom power profile with a CPU speed limit of 50% - not noticeable when just web surfing.
2. -
3. -
4. Should be fine, nothing noteworthy. It's a pretty high-end mobile video card. It's more than enough for SC2, but there are other things about the laptop that make it stand out.
5. I'd like to know also

One very important thing about this model is that the display is exemplary. 1400:1 contrast with that sRGB coverage and decent gamma curves (just a slight blue tint) is very rare in the mobile space, but the price tag reflects that. It's still a TN screen so viewing angles aren't good but it will look great viewed head-on.



Thanks for the reply, I wasn't aware that it had a particularly good display.

Heh. I suppose predicting the future can be very hard, regarding upcoming processors and graphics.
So I'll rephrase the question then, do you think the HD8870M is a decent choice compared to the geforce G750M, I can see the AMD has slightly better benchmarks but most internet communities are full with comments about AMD graphic cards not working properly due to drivers etc.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
May 23 2013 23:24 GMT
#6646
On May 24 2013 07:39 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 06:46 Arctyrus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello awesome tech gurus of TL

I've been looking to buy a new laptop designed with portability in mind, but with enough power to run SC2 in decent graphics. (Preferably ultra, but that might not be feasible).

And so I stumbled across this laptop:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Chronos-770Z5E-S01DE-Notebook.91341.0.html

It seems to suit my purpose very well, and in the test they record a battery time of 10h 42m with WLAN (!!), which to me seems ridiculous compared to other laptops on the market.

So my questions are these:

1) Is there any reason to believe Samsung has struck gold on batterylife, or is it a fluke, and I should expect batterylife around 5-6 hours or even lower?
2) How is Samsungs reputation concerning laptops? I've never heard much about them in that field
3) Is there anything about the Samsung model that could turn into a problem? (Like the Enduro switching which I've heard mixed reviews of.)
4) Speaking of graphics how is the reputation for AMD, in particular AMD Radeon HD 8870M?
5) Is it worth waiting for the upcoming Haswell processors from intel, and possibly combine it with a newer 700 generation geforce graphics card?

Thanks in advance, if you can answer any of my questions, it'd really help me out a great deal deciding which laptop to buy


I'd disable HyperThreading and use a custom power profile with a CPU speed limit of 50% - not noticeable when just web surfing.

Disabling hyperthreading won't do anything, unless you're running a huge load, in which case the decreased performance will of course lead to slightly less power draw, but why would you ever do that?
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 14:25:22
May 24 2013 14:25 GMT
#6647
On May 24 2013 08:24 Rollin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Disabling hyperthreading won't do anything, unless you're running a huge load, in which case the decreased performance will of course lead to slightly less power draw, but why would you ever do that?

Anecdotally, it seemed to me that even at idle + low load the CPU would draw a bit more with HT enabled (watching power consumption via HWMonitor). Of course this is nowhere near a proper methodology and I have no concrete proof. I was also thinking that anything extra enabled = probably slightly extra power draw, even if unused.

I'm probably horribly wrong
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
yaeger
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway98 Posts
May 24 2013 14:59 GMT
#6648
What kind of CPU Should I get to have good quality 1080p streaming ? Atm i got i5 3570k and have overclocked it.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
May 24 2013 16:18 GMT
#6649
On May 24 2013 23:59 yaeger wrote:
What kind of CPU Should I get to have good quality 1080p streaming ? Atm i got i5 3570k and have overclocked it.

What are you having problems with? Ingame fps or your stream looking shit/dropping frames. If it's the game speed, nothing is better. If it's the latter you have bad settings or too low of a bitrate for 1080p. 720p looks a lot better anyway until you chug in like 2.5Mbits+, which a lot of people can't even watch anyway (sad I know)
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
yaeger
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway98 Posts
May 24 2013 17:16 GMT
#6650
Hmm, I guess its my ingame sc2 performance(fps dropping quite a bit) I have 70/10 inet(dont know what settings i should have it on when doing 1080p)
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 23:36:02
May 24 2013 17:56 GMT
#6651
edit - nm made the purchase
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 24 2013 18:32 GMT
#6652
On May 25 2013 02:16 yaeger wrote:
Hmm, I guess its my ingame sc2 performance(fps dropping quite a bit) I have 70/10 inet(dont know what settings i should have it on when doing 1080p)

There's nothing you can do about that. If you already overclocked, you pretty much have the fastest CPU that exists for SC2 fps. You should see if you use the best way for capturing the screen in OBS, compare your settings to other people. Perhaps you overlooked some tweaking you can do and fps drop more than they have to for you.

You might want to look into those capture cards. I don't know how they work exactly and if you can use them with just one PC.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
May 24 2013 19:53 GMT
#6653
My computer has been starting to crash on me lately.

Everytime I play a game, Civ5/csgo/Osu/FTL/etc. It always crashes 5-10 min into me playing. The monitor just goes blank and the sound starting "brrring". I try to restart my comp right after but it wont let me, the power button lights up, but the PC wont boot. Id have to wait at least 5 min before I can start up the comp again.

I came to the conclusion that its my gfx, but want a second opinion before I hop on newegg to order a new one.

Thanks in advance.
Skol
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 20:12:06
May 24 2013 20:11 GMT
#6654
Are you sure nothing about your Windows or device drivers changed? Somewhere in the Control Panel, you can get a list of what Windows Update installed automatically. You can sort by the date column. There's also a list of programs you installed manually if you go to the "Uninstall a program" screen, also with a date column.

Something might look suspicious on those lists, for example a new graphics card driver being installed around the time your problems started.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Crowned
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
May 24 2013 21:58 GMT
#6655
Is there any way to choose which games show up on the user streams sidebar on the right like you could in the old TL layout?
It's cool to love to win, but it's better to hate to lose.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 06:07:55
May 25 2013 01:01 GMT
#6656
Hey guys quick question. Anybody know why I can not enter Safe Mode with or without networking? My monitor notifies me it is going in anolog mode or something and then it goes to sleep. My computer,fans, LEDs and harddrives all spin but the screen does not display anything. Removing my DVI adapter and plugging straight into the motherboard has no effect as well.

My computer crashes or restarts itself sometimes and I want to test my integrated graphics and also run in safe mode to eliminate some variables. Unfortunately, neither safe more NOR my integrated ivy bridge integrated graphics work. I tried looking in bios and there is simply no option for Onboard/Integrated within the Northbus section. This is where it should be There is also nothing in my device manager that suggests I have Intel HD graphics installed. I tried installing it and it says I do not have the requirements.

I'm thinking of formatting and trying both of these again; when this undoubtedly fails to solve my crashing/restarting problems I am thinking of reseating things, testing ram sticks and trying some other parts. Any other options? Seriously dumbfounded.
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
May 25 2013 02:58 GMT
#6657
On May 25 2013 06:58 Crowned wrote:
Is there any way to choose which games show up on the user streams sidebar on the right like you could in the old TL layout?

At the top left there's a section that says "Filter: SC2 | BW | Dota 2 | Other "

Just click on the game(s) you want to add/remove from your TL layout.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 08:43:41
May 25 2013 05:58 GMT
#6658
On May 24 2013 07:48 Arctyrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 07:39 Wabbit wrote:
On May 24 2013 06:46 Arctyrus wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello awesome tech gurus of TL

I've been looking to buy a new laptop designed with portability in mind, but with enough power to run SC2 in decent graphics. (Preferably ultra, but that might not be feasible).

And so I stumbled across this laptop:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Chronos-770Z5E-S01DE-Notebook.91341.0.html

It seems to suit my purpose very well, and in the test they record a battery time of 10h 42m with WLAN (!!), which to me seems ridiculous compared to other laptops on the market.

So my questions are these:

1) Is there any reason to believe Samsung has struck gold on batterylife, or is it a fluke, and I should expect batterylife around 5-6 hours or even lower?
2) How is Samsungs reputation concerning laptops? I've never heard much about them in that field
3) Is there anything about the Samsung model that could turn into a problem? (Like the Enduro switching which I've heard mixed reviews of.)
4) Speaking of graphics how is the reputation for AMD, in particular AMD Radeon HD 8870M?
5) Is it worth waiting for the upcoming Haswell processors from intel, and possibly combine it with a newer 700 generation geforce graphics card?

Thanks in advance, if you can answer any of my questions, it'd really help me out a great deal deciding which laptop to buy

+ Show Spoiler +

1. It's got a humongous 91Wh battery so it's not too surprising. Ivy Bridge is really efficient at idle with periods of low load. To possibly get even a bit more, I'd disable HyperThreading and use a custom power profile with a CPU speed limit of 50% - not noticeable when just web surfing.
2. -
3. -
4. Should be fine, nothing noteworthy. It's a pretty high-end mobile video card. It's more than enough for SC2, but there are other things about the laptop that make it stand out.
5. I'd like to know also

One very important thing about this model is that the display is exemplary. 1400:1 contrast with that sRGB coverage and decent gamma curves (just a slight blue tint) is very rare in the mobile space, but the price tag reflects that. It's still a TN screen so viewing angles aren't good but it will look great viewed head-on.



Thanks for the reply, I wasn't aware that it had a particularly good display.

Heh. I suppose predicting the future can be very hard, regarding upcoming processors and graphics.
So I'll rephrase the question then, do you think the HD8870M is a decent choice compared to the geforce G750M, I can see the AMD has slightly better benchmarks but most internet communities are full with comments about AMD graphic cards not working properly due to drivers etc.


The problem with AMD mobile GPUs has been Enduro. Enduro will always be worse than Optimus because of how it works (IGP + dGPU drivers active, proxy driver allocating tasks) and how unreliable display drivers can be. Updating drivers can be a problem too because of this but AMD's been trying to separate their drivers from the manufacturer.

I have no idea if Samsung's GPU implementation is good or bad but I expect it to be decent enough that AMD's hotfixes and reference drivers work. So performance-wise, there shouldn't be any problem with the AMD option provided Samsung lets you use AMD hot-fixes and reference drivers.

Still, waiting for the Haswell revision might not be a bad idea since all signs point to it being specifically designed for mobile usage.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 25 2013 13:43 GMT
#6659
I'm not so sure about Haswell being so great for mobile, at least in the sense we're talking here. A big part of it is greatly improved iGPU performance, which isn't relevant if you're playing a game off the dGPU from AMD or Nvidia. Another big thing is the ultra-low-power states and idle power consumption, which is more a benefit for low-power, stripped-down tablet systems and smaller ultraportables. A performance user may not care as much about idle power, and even if platform and CPU power consumption can be reduced on a larger machine, the display and other peripheral parts still take power. I just think that for this kind of application, the jump to Haswell won't particularly be a bigger deal than it is for desktop users.

That said, improvements with Haswell wouldn't exactly be unwelcome.

btw if you can't wait, you can find the Y500 elsewhere. e.g. $1000 for a similar config but with SLI (uh, yeah...) GT 650M.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834312439
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
May 25 2013 16:01 GMT
#6660
I could use some help on deciding if an upgrade is needed, and if so what to upgrade to. I built my 1st pc 2 years ago this summer, and noticed its starting to not run as great with new games. I'm looking to buy Farcry 3, Bioshock, and Crysis 3 pretty soon, and want to fully experience those games.

Currently I'm using this 6850. I also have an i7 2600k as my processor, and 16gb of ram. If there are other important specs needed I can provide them, but thats the general information.

Do you think that an upgrade from the 6850 to a newer card would improve performance a lot, or would the upgrade by minuscule? I'm not looking to get an amazing card, but more along the lines of $150-$200 card. Before I really proceed on buying one, I just wanted to get some opinions from those who know more than me to see if it would help.
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