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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
May 18 2013 01:21 GMT
#6601
Because your Internet is bad. What are the results?
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Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
May 18 2013 02:43 GMT
#6602
Hey could some one PM me or if u can post back here if you like.

I want to know if my friends geforce GTX 560 SE can fit on my ga-ma74gmt-s2 motherboard. ive been out of the loop of hardware for years and dont know of a quick way to check this without physcally doing all the switching.

cheers
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 18 2013 02:53 GMT
#6603
Yes, it is. PCI Express is forwards and backwards compatible. For a while now, including years before the motherboard and graphics card were released, they all used PCI Express x16 slots.

If somehow compatibility is broken on that model (it was on some boards with PCIe 1.x I think), a BIOS update from Gigabyte's site would fix that.
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
May 18 2013 02:57 GMT
#6604
On May 18 2013 11:53 Myrmidon wrote:
Yes, it is. PCI Express is forwards and backwards compatible. For a while now, including years before the motherboard and graphics card were released, they all used PCI Express x16 slots.

If somehow compatibility is broken on that model (it was on some boards with PCIe 1.x I think), a BIOS update from Gigabyte's site would fix that.



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rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 18 2013 10:48 GMT
#6605
I'm looking to get a new computer but I read that its worth delaying for a month because of the new intel stuff coming out. is this true? thanks
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
May 18 2013 10:58 GMT
#6606
It depends of how badly you need it right now, if you can afford to wait a couple of weeks, do so. Othersiwe, don't.

Or if you just don't care about a little boost in performance build it now anyways.
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 18 2013 11:06 GMT
#6607
so its neither going to be a significant improvement nor going to cause a significant reduction in prices? sounds like little point in waiting. thanks
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
May 18 2013 11:07 GMT
#6608
On May 18 2013 20:06 rolfe wrote:
so its neither going to be a significant improvement nor going to cause a significant reduction in prices? sounds like little point in waiting. thanks


Performance improvements will most likely not exceed 10%. Most gains will be had in the area of energy efficiency most likely (it's more of a focus point these days).

Intel doesn't reduce prices of previous generation chips when they release a new generation, so don't expect big discounts (individual retailers may still want to clear out stock of the previous generation, so a little bit of money might be saved).
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
May 18 2013 11:58 GMT
#6609
From what i have seen Haswell actually has worse temperatures and load power consumption than ivy bridge
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 18 2013 18:21 GMT
#6610
thanks for the help guys!
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waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 22:48:02
May 18 2013 22:47 GMT
#6611
hi, i'm only getting 55GFlops. on my 3570k on asrock pro4.

Why is my GFlops so low? i'm getting almost double on my other 3570k rig.

i set it to x40 (standard base clock 100MHZ),
auto offset voltage on the asrock UEFI (i'm getting around 1.270V when running intel burn test)
temps are 70C when running standard, 20 runs.


i5-3570k
asrock pro4
xigmatek gaia
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
May 18 2013 23:25 GMT
#6612
Since gigaflops is not a measure of your CPU speed, but rather also inclusive of things like RAM, I would say it has to do with one of those other characteristics.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 18 2013 23:26 GMT
#6613
The AVX instructions of the CPU are not accessible for programs without Windows 7 Service Pack 1. That's probably the difference between the two PCs. Go into Windows Update and let it install everything it thinks is important.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 00:51:33
May 18 2013 23:39 GMT
#6614
and there it is, SP1 is not installed.

i'll test and post back here again

that did the trick. up at 95 GF.
thanks!
pRo9aMeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
595 Posts
May 19 2013 02:46 GMT
#6615
How necessary is a surge protector? I live in a place where it's rainy/stormy/lightning season now. (Oklahoma if you're familiar with it)
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Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
May 19 2013 11:48 GMT
#6616
I got 3 routers toasted by lightning and one network card in an older pc of mine. If it's storming really hard outside I just unplug my PC, don't know about protective mechanisms.
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 19:58:04
May 19 2013 17:56 GMT
#6617
Recently I started playing SC2 again. The problem is, sometimes when I'm in the game (and by sometimes I mean almost every game), either my monitor turns off and I have to restart the computer or the game freezes. What causes this and what can I do to fix it? thanks.

Edit: I googled and some people have reported that this happens because of overheating. I'll try cleaning out my computer a bit later and seeing if this helps. Any other suggestions?
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Flaiker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany235 Posts
May 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#6618
On May 20 2013 02:56 Epishade wrote:
Recently I started playing SC2 again. The problem is, sometimes when I'm in the game (and by sometimes I mean almost every game), either my monitor turns off and I have to restart the computer or the game freezes. What causes this and what can I do to fix it? thanks.

Edit: I googled and some people have reported that this happens because of overheating. I'll try cleaning out my computer a bit later and seeing if this helps. Any other suggestions?

Is only the monitor turning black (-> does the sound still work while it is off)? If the game freezes do you get an infinite sound loop?
Windows also protocolls every screw up in the "event viewer". There you might be able to find more information regarding which hardware part or software is causing the problem.
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
May 20 2013 19:56 GMT
#6619
The sound stops as well when it freezes. Still cleaning it out so im not able to check anything right now. If it still doesn't work I'll try looking in that event viewer you mentioned.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
May 20 2013 22:59 GMT
#6620
Lockups don't always put anything / anything meaningful in the event viewer. I had a recurring (though rare) lockup problem with my setup 2 iterations ago that I was never able to lock down (my money was on a sound card, but I digress).

Anyway, one sign of a failing monitor is that it will turn off; however, this would happen unbeknownst to your PC and would not cause a lockup.

I haven't heard of overheating causing spontaneous black screening (it should just power off your system). Maybe in the case of a GPU overheating?

See if you can monitor the GPU and CPU temperatures during load. TDP for both are usually 100C or so, but really under an SC2 load with low-end coolers I don't think you should be exceeding 70C (if that).

Also, run the various hardware tests like Memtest (tests RAM), IntelBurnTest & Prime95 (stresses CPU to test temps/stability), Furmark (stresses GPU to test temps/stability).
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