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Mooncowtime
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
June 04 2011 07:27 GMT
#1
Im in the middle of building a new computer and need help on deciding what ram i should get.
Processor
Mobo
Im mainly going to be using this computer for gaming and also some video editing. The mobo i have picked out only supports up to 1333 MHZ ram. The question i have, is should i find a different mobo that supports 1600 or stick with the one i have picked out. Thanks for the help :D
Mooncow.968 | Twitter:@itsamooncow
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 04 2011 07:31 GMT
#2
Don't waste your money, there's a very small gain from higher frequency memory:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3

If you're not overclocking. Why are you getting such an expensive motherboard? A H61 or H67 motherboard for sub $100 is perfectly fine.
KingTony
Profile Joined March 2011
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 08:02:37
June 04 2011 07:55 GMT
#3
Hey, @OP, I'm not sure if you have a microcenter near you, but i believe all micro centers nation wide are having a sale on the i5-2500k for $190 (in store only)... same price as the processor u have listed... just saying.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589

Atleast the microcenter near me is selling it for $190.
I have top 3 control in the world.
Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
June 04 2011 10:05 GMT
#4
That motherboard supports faster RAM than 1333mhz btw, but I would also recommend against it anyway.
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
June 04 2011 10:38 GMT
#5
G.Skill is good and inexpensive ram, might as well go for 1600imo, 8gigs is like 89-95$
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
June 04 2011 12:15 GMT
#6
Don't the Core i's only support 1333mhz at stock anyway?
this game is a fucking jokie
Ashby
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia204 Posts
June 04 2011 14:40 GMT
#7
On June 04 2011 21:15 disco wrote:
Don't the Core i's only support 1333mhz at stock anyway?


Yea I was just reading the specs on the i5 2500k and it says it only supports 1066mhz and 1333mhz.

http://sc2sig.com/s/sea/30597-1.png?1307082433
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 04 2011 14:42 GMT
#8
You don't need the RAM to be able to handle higher clocks, since you OC SB with CPU multiplier instead of Bclk.
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
June 04 2011 15:11 GMT
#9
The Gracken says Kingston HyperX makes him play better.

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 04 2011 15:13 GMT
#10
On June 05 2011 00:11 Greatness wrote:
The Gracken says Kingston HyperX makes him play better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qPFIgrg5Lk&feature=player_embedded


Yeah, and gatorade and nike shoes are all you need to run to the moon.
Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
June 04 2011 16:16 GMT
#11
On June 04 2011 23:42 JingleHell wrote:
You don't need the RAM to be able to handle higher clocks, since you OC SB with CPU multiplier instead of Bclk.


Yes, RAM speeds are on their own and any p67 or z67 will be able to handle speeds far above 1333 mhz regardless of model or CPU.

Will it make the computer faster? Not by much.
S.O.U.L
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia149 Posts
June 04 2011 17:14 GMT
#12
you should get a mobo that supports 1600/1600+, and you dont really need those 2 pci-e slots if you will use just one, so you could buy a cheaper mobo and save money!
for ram i found you this
here if you will get another mobo!
here and this if you want to keep this mobo!
theyre both 8gb, and that will be good enough for you, cause actually 2-4 is good nowadays, so 8 will be better for video editing!
CezA
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 04 2011 17:15 GMT
#13
On June 05 2011 02:14 S.O.U.L wrote:
you should get a mobo that supports 1600/1600+, and you dont really need those 2 pci-e slots if you will use just one, so you could buy a cheaper mobo and save money!
for ram i found you this
here if you will get another mobo!
here and this if you want to keep this mobo!
theyre both 8gb, and that will be good enough for you, cause actually 2-4 is good nowadays, so 8 will be better for video editing!


RAM clock over 1333 isn't even vaguely important on a Sandy Bridge system unless performance in synthetic benchmarks is important to you.

$90 is overpriced for 8GB.
S.O.U.L
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia149 Posts
June 04 2011 17:19 GMT
#14
On June 05 2011 02:15 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:14 S.O.U.L wrote:
you should get a mobo that supports 1600/1600+, and you dont really need those 2 pci-e slots if you will use just one, so you could buy a cheaper mobo and save money!
for ram i found you this
here if you will get another mobo!
here and this if you want to keep this mobo!
theyre both 8gb, and that will be good enough for you, cause actually 2-4 is good nowadays, so 8 will be better for video editing!


RAM clock over 1333 isn't even vaguely important on a Sandy Bridge system unless performance in synthetic benchmarks is important to you.

$90 is overpriced for 8GB.



it may be overpriced, but it has better heatsink then the cheaper ones!
CezA
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 04 2011 17:23 GMT
#15
On June 05 2011 02:19 S.O.U.L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:15 JingleHell wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:14 S.O.U.L wrote:
you should get a mobo that supports 1600/1600+, and you dont really need those 2 pci-e slots if you will use just one, so you could buy a cheaper mobo and save money!
for ram i found you this
here if you will get another mobo!
here and this if you want to keep this mobo!
theyre both 8gb, and that will be good enough for you, cause actually 2-4 is good nowadays, so 8 will be better for video editing!


RAM clock over 1333 isn't even vaguely important on a Sandy Bridge system unless performance in synthetic benchmarks is important to you.

$90 is overpriced for 8GB.



it may be overpriced, but it has better heatsink then the cheaper ones!


If he isn't overclocking the RAM he doesn't need heat sinks on it.
S.O.U.L
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia149 Posts
June 04 2011 17:25 GMT
#16
On June 05 2011 02:23 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:19 S.O.U.L wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:15 JingleHell wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:14 S.O.U.L wrote:
you should get a mobo that supports 1600/1600+, and you dont really need those 2 pci-e slots if you will use just one, so you could buy a cheaper mobo and save money!
for ram i found you this
here if you will get another mobo!
here and this if you want to keep this mobo!
theyre both 8gb, and that will be good enough for you, cause actually 2-4 is good nowadays, so 8 will be better for video editing!


RAM clock over 1333 isn't even vaguely important on a Sandy Bridge system unless performance in synthetic benchmarks is important to you.

$90 is overpriced for 8GB.



it may be overpriced, but it has better heatsink then the cheaper ones!


If he isn't overclocking the RAM he doesn't need heat sinks on it.




actually he said that this pc will be for gaming and video editing, and those things really bring the temperature up on youre parts, and ram without a good heatsink will die faster as well, cause cooler parts=longer lifetime+better performance!
CezA
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 04 2011 17:29 GMT
#17
On June 05 2011 02:25 S.O.U.L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:23 JingleHell wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:19 S.O.U.L wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:15 JingleHell wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:14 S.O.U.L wrote:
you should get a mobo that supports 1600/1600+, and you dont really need those 2 pci-e slots if you will use just one, so you could buy a cheaper mobo and save money!
for ram i found you this
here if you will get another mobo!
here and this if you want to keep this mobo!
theyre both 8gb, and that will be good enough for you, cause actually 2-4 is good nowadays, so 8 will be better for video editing!


RAM clock over 1333 isn't even vaguely important on a Sandy Bridge system unless performance in synthetic benchmarks is important to you.

$90 is overpriced for 8GB.



it may be overpriced, but it has better heatsink then the cheaper ones!


If he isn't overclocking the RAM he doesn't need heat sinks on it.




actually he said that this pc will be for gaming and video editing, and those things really bring the temperature up on youre parts, and ram without a good heatsink will die faster as well, cause cooler parts=longer lifetime+better performance!


RAM doesn't get hot quickly or easily, unless your overall cooling is retarded to begin with. RAM without a good heatsink will do just fine if you have good CPU cooling and airflow.

Basically, you're wrong about it being important, and should stop trying to make yourself correct via repetition. No matter how many times someone says 1+1=3, the underlying truth doesn't change.

Pointless purchases will always be pointless purchases. Higher clocked RAM with heatsinks won't have any significant performance gain for him.

Anyways, the majority of RAM gets made with chips from the same handful of manufacturers, most of what you get with the brand you choose is support related.
S.O.U.L
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia149 Posts
June 04 2011 17:34 GMT
#18
On June 05 2011 02:29 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 02:25 S.O.U.L wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:23 JingleHell wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:19 S.O.U.L wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:15 JingleHell wrote:
On June 05 2011 02:14 S.O.U.L wrote:
you should get a mobo that supports 1600/1600+, and you dont really need those 2 pci-e slots if you will use just one, so you could buy a cheaper mobo and save money!
for ram i found you this
here if you will get another mobo!
here and this if you want to keep this mobo!
theyre both 8gb, and that will be good enough for you, cause actually 2-4 is good nowadays, so 8 will be better for video editing!


RAM clock over 1333 isn't even vaguely important on a Sandy Bridge system unless performance in synthetic benchmarks is important to you.

$90 is overpriced for 8GB.



it may be overpriced, but it has better heatsink then the cheaper ones!


If he isn't overclocking the RAM he doesn't need heat sinks on it.




actually he said that this pc will be for gaming and video editing, and those things really bring the temperature up on youre parts, and ram without a good heatsink will die faster as well, cause cooler parts=longer lifetime+better performance!


RAM doesn't get hot quickly or easily, unless your overall cooling is retarded to begin with. RAM without a good heatsink will do just fine if you have good CPU cooling and airflow.

Basically, you're wrong about it being important, and should stop trying to make yourself correct via repetition. No matter how many times someone says 1+1=3, the underlying truth doesn't change.

Pointless purchases will always be pointless purchases. Higher clocked RAM with heatsinks won't have any significant performance gain for him.

Anyways, the majority of RAM gets made with chips from the same handful of manufacturers, most of what you get with the brand you choose is support related.


yeah, youre a man who talks though he knows nothing, you say that clocks mean nothing ha? if you have a ram with 400mhz or 800mhz which will run faster? 800!
and rams go to high temperatures! so you need good cooling for it, especially if hes doing video editing, cause rendering really brings the heat up!
and actually i would tell him to get AMD cause its cheaper and better, especially for editing, but hes probablly a intel whore just like you all!!!


User was warned for this post
CezA
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 04 2011 17:37 GMT
#19
Try a dictionary. "...won't have any significant performance gain" means it's minute. Small. Miniscule. Check the links skyR posted earlier in the thread.

RAM doesn't tend to get to any dangerous heat without external forces, such as poor system cooling overall and high ambient temperatures.

RAM that supports a higher clock won't even matter for overclocking on Sandy Bridge, because you use the CPU multi instead of Base clock.
Mooncowtime
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
June 06 2011 05:31 GMT
#20
After reading through all of these replys (thanks by the way) i think im gonna go with this mobo. I think that is more reasonably priced. And this ram.
Mooncow.968 | Twitter:@itsamooncow
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 06 2011 05:37 GMT
#21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Better price on RAM.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 08:23:41
June 06 2011 08:20 GMT
#22
RAM heatsinks is literally just a product differentiation technique. Gamers like having colourful BADASS RAM heatsinks so companies give the only people who care about 3000mhz memory some aluminium that prevents your CPU cooler from clearing.

Everyone else doesn't care, I mean I think DDR3 memory is rated to like 90 degrees celsius. Overheating memory isn't something I've never encountered, even with a god awful Pentium 4 with a stock cooling in the middle of the Australian summer.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 06 2011 12:55 GMT
#23
On June 06 2011 17:20 Womwomwom wrote:
RAM heatsinks is literally just a product differentiation technique. Gamers like having colourful BADASS RAM heatsinks so companies give the only people who care about 3000mhz memory some aluminium that prevents your CPU cooler from clearing.

Everyone else doesn't care, I mean I think DDR3 memory is rated to like 90 degrees celsius. Overheating memory isn't something I've never encountered, even with a god awful Pentium 4 with a stock cooling in the middle of the Australian summer.


I'm sure it's technically possible, but it's nowhere near the first component to worry about.
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