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Minimum upload speed for a stream?

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ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
March 26 2011 08:05 GMT
#1
I'm trying to set up my own stream, and im almost positive that my internet speed is much too low. My computer is no issue at all (freshly upgraded, i7-2600, etc). I can't stream at anything other than 500kbps otherwise my SC2 gets so laggy that it's unplayable. The quality is awful.

My upload speed is 0.49mbps (according to speedtest.net)

What is the minimum upload speed for a high quality stream?
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 08:18:40
March 26 2011 08:16 GMT
#2
im guessing atleast 1.5 and up?
like you, ive tried with my 0.6 up and its awful. sometimes clear but high latency, or not clear and still high latency.

ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
March 26 2011 13:44 GMT
#3
Yeah... I think i'm resigned to the fact that i might need to upgrade my isp. I really don't want to do this, but with 500kbps upload, streaming is impossible.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
March 26 2011 14:55 GMT
#4
if you have 900kb/s - 1mb/s its good enough to have decent quality 720p stream
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sfcCile
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia1 Post
July 23 2011 20:48 GMT
#5
i have 230kb/s -.- stupid t-com in croatia
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 22:10:47
July 23 2011 22:09 GMT
#6
I second Drewbie.

Btw. there's an excellent guide with some very good upload estimates written by R1CH here although the numbers are a bit on the high side imo.
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Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
July 23 2011 23:33 GMT
#7
I would say anything below 1mb/s upload isn't going to do too well for a high quality stream(720p+).
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AwfulMcBad
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
November 27 2011 17:44 GMT
#8
According to speedtest.net my upload speed is around 3.49Mbps. I would like to stream at 1080p, or the best possible setting below that. What is the recommended upload speed to set the broadcaster to to get the best quality image, with reduced lag.

At which point is there lag noticed for players that have around 3MB upload speed?
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 13:53:14
November 27 2011 18:15 GMT
#9
On November 28 2011 02:44 BloodyStool.127 wrote:
According to speedtest.net my upload speed is around 3.49Mbps. I would like to stream at 1080p, or the best possible setting below that. What is the recommended upload speed to set the broadcaster to to get the best quality image, with reduced lag.

At which point is there lag noticed for players that have around 3MB upload speed?

You can do 1080p with your bandwidth provided your hardware is top of the line. Generally a 1080p would require about 3-5 Mbps, but you can tweak it so it fits. Some even go under 3 mbps, but then quality really starts to get hurt imho.
Your second question is unclear to me. I don't get what you mean by reduced lag. For the first part, the higher bitrate the better quality.
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AwfulMcBad
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
November 27 2011 19:43 GMT
#10
The more I turn my bitrate up, it will begin to interfere with my connection to battle.net [game gets laggy] Yes I had an idea that 1080p would need at least 3. But 3 will cause me to lag in battle.net [if I'm doing large team games]
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 00:08:00
November 28 2011 13:52 GMT
#11
On November 28 2011 04:43 BloodyStool.127 wrote:
The more I turn my bitrate up, it will begin to interfere with my connection to battle.net [game gets laggy] Yes I had an idea that 1080p would need at least 3. But 3 will cause me to lag in battle.net [if I'm doing large team games]


Your game lag is not due to the higher bitrate though. SC2 uses very little bandwidth (less than 150 kbps), and assuming no other apps than SC2 and XSplit are running, there will be no difference in your game play whether using 2 or 3 Mbps for streaming of your available 3.5 Mbps upload. What may influence your game experience is your CPU as well as the resolution you stream in, because streaming 1080p is seriously more intensive than 720p. Streaming 1080p in team games is almost impossible to due without lag (CPU limitation, not bandwidth). To minimize the input lag, try using a 3rd party capture driver such as DXTory (search for the thread) and you'll see and feel that the ingame lag almost disappears. But there's no way your game will lag due to bandwidth limitation with +500 kbps available.

You haven't told me your hardware specs - if you do that, I will be glad to help you out with some settings (post information like this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11889002),). Also, a high bitrate 720p will look better than a low bitrate 1080p (resolution isn't eveything).
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