For months now i have had issues with justin.tv freezing repeatedly, and nothing i had done had fixed the issue, most people tend to say it only happens to europeans because their connections aren't good enough, this is NOT the case
throughout the video my download speeds stays around 150 kb/s, my max is 750 kb/s
my cpu is around 80% but that is purely because i was livestreaming this, and i recorded the livestream video, but 80% is not maxed out, and this same lag happens when i do not stream at the same time as watching
p.s. on the bandwidth monitor green - download red - upload yellow - both in the same space
****************************** Pingtest is unable to measure my packet loss to los angeles servers, this has to be the issue....
or not????
tried it again, and this time it is fine
multiple retries on my main computer and i haven't gotten that packet loss issue again, i will test directly connecting to my modem when i can, as well as other computers
i think it may have been a fluke, but i will definitely keep this here and try to confirm later ****************************** Specs:
4 gb of ram 3.2 ghz quad core processor 7200 rpm 600 gb hard drive Nvidia gtx 260 ISP - Comcast Max Download - 750 kilobytes per second Windows 7 64 bit home premium No Proxy settings Firewall - disabled/enabled it makes no difference Normal TCP settings
I have already:
Used firefox Used chrome Used opera Used internet explorer Installed the latest verison of flash Installed multiple older versions of flash Cleared my cache Tried changing the justin.tv quality settings, lower quality seems to make the lag more random, but i wouldn't say there is less of it on average Tried different Dns servers (4.2.2.1, 8.8.8.8, and comcast default) Enabled/Disabled hardware acceleration enabled/disabled demilitarized zone on my router increased amount of data that can be stored in flash options to unlimited
While watching justin.tv streams i almost always get consistent stream freezes for no reason, so in an attempt to figure out what was happening i monitored my bandwidth while watching stream
Single Justin.tv Stream Bandwidth - Consistent Lag Notice the incredibly huge spikes, those occur when there is lag, justin.tv is failing to send me data to download in many instances
Single Ustream.tv Bandwidth - No Lag Notice there are no incredibly huge spikes, and more importantly no lag
Multiple Ustream.tv Bandwidth - No Lag [Note - the bandwidth scale is more than double the last 2 images] This shows that it is NOT my connection that is unable to keep up with the justin.tv stream
Own3d.tv Bandwidth - No Lag it isn't just ustream that doesn't lag for me
i know many others have had this issue, does anyone have a solution?
I had this problem when I was using the beta version of firefox just like the pictures show. I actually went back to chrome because of it and once I switched browsers the problem stopped. This may be your problem maybe not but it sure was mine.
i've also posted it on the justin.tv forums, they require a mod to review posts before they are posted, but i will update the OP with the justin.tv link when it is finally posted
and as already stated, i've used pretty much every browser i can
Everyone gets this. Change the stream quality from 1080p to 720p and it goes smooth. The reason why streams on the TL sidebar only show ~half is because it only counts how many people are watching at 1080p; most choose to lower it.
On March 09 2011 11:07 R1CH wrote: Are you getting packet loss? What's your OS? Have you tweaked your TCP settings? Any proxy / firewall software? Why do you hate the TL horse mascot?
i've updated the OP with answers to your questions, and only my Firefox has an aversion to the tl horse, i browse the forums on opera
On March 09 2011 11:10 DeltruS wrote: Everyone gets this. Change the stream quality from 1080p to 720p and it goes smooth. The reason why streams on the TL sidebar only show ~half is because it only counts how many people are watching at 1080p; most choose to lower it.
updated the OP, it doesn't make a difference, the lag still occurs at every quality even at 240p, and regardless there is no reason that i should have any lag whatsoever at the best quality if my connection can handle it, which it can
What dns servers are you using? If it is auto or isp I'd recommend changing to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 which are level 3 dns servers. I use them and here are recent results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191586810.png
On March 09 2011 11:51 Baarn wrote: What dns servers are you using? If it is auto or isp I'd recommend changing to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 which are level 3 dns servers. I use them and here are recent results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191586810.png
On March 09 2011 11:51 Baarn wrote: What dns servers are you using? If it is auto or isp I'd recommend changing to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 which are level 3 dns servers. I use them and here are recent results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191586810.png
i hadn't tried that but just did
the lag persists
i will try a couple other dns' as well
good idea tho, thanks
Google's is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.
Edit: Did you change the dns settings on your router or just computer? I'd change it on router (if applicable.)
same thing here, but im in canada. lagging like crazy on day9's stream right now, doesnt seem like anyone else is complaining about the lag. to be honest im guessing the problem is with jtv's servers, like u, i can watch like 4 ustream streams and they dont lag but as soon as i watch maybe 2 jtv streams at 'best' quality, they lag.
On March 09 2011 11:51 Baarn wrote: What dns servers are you using? If it is auto or isp I'd recommend changing to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 which are level 3 dns servers. I use them and here are recent results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191586810.png
What does a DNS server have to do with speed tests?
Out of pure curiosity what was the software that you used for the network activity graph?
Maybe you could try a traceroute to their servers to see if it's a bad route, and perhaps test with a few VPN's in different geographic locations to see if it fixes the problem.
Have you tried with any other computers?
You could try booting a live linux distribution such as Ubuntu to eliminate any OS issues.
Perhaps your router is trying to do some sort of application layer firewall filtering and therefore using more CPU power/memory than it can handle on the Justin.tv stream - so either maybe disabling the routers firewall (if it's a Linksys you have to do this 2 places, a bit tricky, but I'll help if thats the case) or try connecting your computer directly to your modem instead of through the router, see if that helps (just make sure to have Windows fully updated).
And as BeanerBurrito asked, you haven't touched any tcp software/registry settings in attempt to tweak anything such as TCPNoDelay ?
I allways have major major lag when watching justin.tv. And although i love all the support this guy is getting, I strongly believe that one shoudnt have to tweak his TCP settings if you can watch ustream/gomtv without any issues. No amount of tweaking will help you if there just isnt enough input.
I belive the quality justin.tv is able to provide to europe just isnt good enough and i hope this will change in the future, allthough ofc i understand how much of an investment this would take for justin.tv. I still hope they will make it in the future.
On March 09 2011 18:41 betaV1.25 wrote: I allways have major major lag when watching justin.tv. And although i love all the support this guy is getting, I strongly believe that one shoudnt have to tweak his TCP settings if you can watch ustream/gomtv without any issues. No amount of tweaking will help you if there just isnt enough input.
I was merely trying to figure out if he had used any tweaks/registry hacks, if not I certainly wouldn't wouldn't recommend so (except for the TCPNoDelay/ACK fix, that might be worth testing out, although I believe the stream is in UDP anyways - not sure). You can check it our here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16336-PingEnhancer.html, or google to find out how do it all manually via registry.
try disabling hardware acceleration with flash, as this might be causing connection problems with j.tv, as their flash stream player is a lot different from ustreams.
Right click on the flash player, click settings or "preferences" then click the left most tab, then uncheck the box that says "enable hardware acceleration.
I am Dutch (europe) and I'm having no problems at all. Uploading and downloading to/from justin.tv goes very well. It might be a stupid suggestion but I find that whenever I press alt the screen freezes. Are you using alt as a push-to-talk for a VOIP application per chance?
I know this is a very stupid suggestion but yeah. That's the only thing I can think of seeing that there's nothing wrong with your pc/connection...
it is unable to track my packet loss, this has to be the root of the issue, thank you so much i overlooked testing packet loss to california servers, but what do i do about that
or not maybe??
im completely confused, i just retried and got this
I truly have no idea actually. Maybe it is your modem/router causing it. You could try connecting your pc directly to the modem and see if the problem still persists. If it's solved, you know your router's the weak link. If it's not, call your ISP =)
Glad to help, mate
edit: also try a different pc on the same network (does someone you know have a laptop?)
But I think that the fact that my JTV is simply working even though i'm very far away from the servers prove it's not JTV's fault. I can't be sure, but I guess it has something to do with something between your pc and JTV (ISP, Modem, Router, wall connection etc.) You really should try different pc's on the network and connecting your pc directly to the modem.
Doing so will prove many theories wrong until you can be sure that it's justin.tv's fault
B34ST, try another pc connected directly to your modem. If the problem still persists, call your ISP. That's all I can say. If it's fixed, you might want to try a new router or else it's your pc. The Topic starter has quite a lot of 'possible fixes' in his first post. Check them out.
ive tried the pingtest around 30 times and i havent gotten that error again, i can't disconnect my internet at the moment (roomates would kill me) but i will try directly connecting to my modem as soon as i can
i will also try pingtesting other computers and testing for lag on other computers
Good =) It could be that the outage to californian servers cause the problem. Some technical details:
Video streams work as follows: The stream sends a keyframe containing an image and then will just send frames containing data about how the pixels on the screen changed. Usually every 3-6 seconds a new keyframe is sent.
Whenever you miss a frame (can be caused by packet loss or short connection timeouts) the image will get messed up so the computer had to wait for a new keyframe and move on from there.
zYwi3c I have that too sometimes but that's because of his (destiny's) high quality stream (1080P meaning 1980x1080). Set his stream quality to 720p or even lower.
edit: also, don't worry about your connection. I have a high quality connection too but connecting to a californian server might give you a high ping. Particularly from countries located far away like Poland
Well, to LA i have like ~150 ping and 0 packet loss, but i hadnt any lags like month ago, this lag started week or smth ago. And im watching every stream on 1080p ( if its possible ).
On Destiny stream even switching to 720p or lower doesnt help ( well, for me ).
I can watch like 5 other streams and there will be 0 freezes, actually watching Tyler, Grubby, RageQuitTV and LzGamer ( all in best quality ) and 0 lag.
Yeah I have that too on his stream. Since his PC format actually. But for me switching to lower quality works on his stream so it should for yours as well.
Gonna check on 240/480p, i handt check on this quality yet. Well, but its kinda weird, even Football matches in very high quality streamed from USA works without freezes ;<
I seem to be getting this now after Justin.tv changed their stream interface. No matter the quality, I keep getting random freezes on the stream. Sometimes I only get the audio with a frozen video.
it's justin.tv. some days i can't watch a single stream (even on 240p) on justin.tv while every other streaming site works perfectly. other days i don't have a problem. but it's not my connection.
too bad everyone seems to be switching over to justin.tv
On March 09 2011 11:51 Baarn wrote: What dns servers are you using? If it is auto or isp I'd recommend changing to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 which are level 3 dns servers. I use them and here are recent results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191586810.png
What does a DNS server have to do with speed tests?
A fast dns server speeds up your browsing by quickly resolving dns lookups sometimes much faster than your isp can. So basically your pages load faster. Here's a tool you can test against to see the difference.
Tracing route to justin.tv [199.9.249.19] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 10 ms 8 ms 6 ms c-69-245-72-1.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [69.245.72.1]
2 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms ge-2-2-ur03.waterford.mi.michigan.comcast.net [6 8.85.218.69] 3 7 ms 10 ms 11 ms te-8-1-ur02.springfield.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.87.190.122] 4 15 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-0-5-0-6-ar01.pontiac.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.87.190.126] 5 36 ms 23 ms 22 ms pos-3-3-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [6 8.86.90.109] 6 23 ms 22 ms 25 ms pos-1-3-0-0-pe01.350ecermak.il.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.158] 7 22 ms 24 ms 23 ms te0-3-0-1.ccr22.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54 .10.253] 8 22 ms 25 ms 22 ms te0-3-0-0.ccr22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54 .5.1] 9 33 ms 35 ms 35 ms te0-1-0-1.ccr22.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54 .40.205] 10 34 ms 33 ms 35 ms te0-2-0-0.mpd21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54 .7.233] 11 41 ms 33 ms 34 ms te0-3-0-5.mpd21.iad02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54 .41.246] 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out.
Yeah i always seem to have a real problem with it on my school internet no matter the quality even though we have 101 mb/s up and 50 mb/s down, but when i am home or at a friends it always seems to work fine even with a much slower connection.
On March 09 2011 11:51 Baarn wrote: What dns servers are you using? If it is auto or isp I'd recommend changing to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 which are level 3 dns servers. I use them and here are recent results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191586810.png
What does a DNS server have to do with speed tests?
A fast dns server speeds up your browsing by quickly resolving dns lookups sometimes much faster than your isp can. So basically your pages load faster. Here's a tool you can test against to see the difference.
Your description is very correct, but DNS has nothing to do with sustained download speeds (which is required to watch a stream). A slow DNS lookup can cause a initial delay, but once the connection has been made, the DNS is no longer used. DNS simply cannot be the culprit when it comes to stream lag. To back up my statement
On March 09 2011 11:51 Baarn wrote: What dns servers are you using? If it is auto or isp I'd recommend changing to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 which are level 3 dns servers. I use them and here are recent results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1191586810.png
What does a DNS server have to do with speed tests?
A fast dns server speeds up your browsing by quickly resolving dns lookups sometimes much faster than your isp can. So basically your pages load faster. Here's a tool you can test against to see the difference.
Your description is very correct, but DNS has nothing to do with sustained download speeds (which is required to watch a stream). A slow DNS lookup can cause a initial delay, but once the connection has been made, the DNS is no longer used. DNS simply cannot be the culprit when it comes to stream lag. To back up my statement
Really now? The information in the link you provided is incorrect as to how, let's say, googledns works. I'll give a real example with using Netflix as an example of how the dns actually does matter. Let's say you live on the east coast and are currently using a dns on the west coast. So when you connect to netflix you get a cdn that is obviously gonna be on the west coast when you connect. So your throughput isn't gonna be the same as if you switched to googledns and got a cdn on the east coast to connect to. Does that make sense to you now about how streaming services work on the web?
Another example is that Blizzard uses a local dns here in san diego for bnet servers where I live so that data center is a few miles from me. So by using a local dns here I can cut the time of my connection to their servers since the distance is so short meaning I will have a lower ping which helps a great deal in gaming.
I have the exact same problem as of the last few days. I've double checked all my hardware and every PC in the house, monitored all my bandwidth and what do you know...only justin.tv lags for me. WTF!
@Baarn It seems you're assuming there are multiple end points to each service. I'm not. I think we need to agree on what we're discussing. . I live in Denmark (Europe) and no matter what DNS I use a always get the same end point when watching a stream on www.justin.tv. This is because their servers are located in Berkeley, CA (ie. http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/199.9.249.184). Now I agree that if a streaming service had multiple locations, you would probably get higher speeds from closest geo-location, but it shouldn't matter much from a througput point of view. Right now I'm watching a stream from the user "vVvrigid". I'm downloading ~1mbit/s. Whether I got connected to an East coast or West coast server really shouldn't be noticeable in throughput at those kind of speeds. There's a whole other discussion in this, from the providers POV that could affect the stream experience (even distribution of users and such), but that's not what we're discussing.
On March 14 2011 14:06 Baarn wrote: Let's say you live on the east coast and are currently using a dns on the west coast. So when you connect to netflix you get a cdn that is obviously gonna be on the west coast when you connect.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong in the assumption that only a physical close DNS server will give you the closest available service. Look up "Anycast" on Wikipedia. If set up correctly, you will get the closer server no matter which DNS you query.
On March 14 2011 14:06 Baarn wrote: So your throughput isn't gonna be the same as if you switched to googledns and got a cdn on the east coast to connect to. Does that make sense to you now about how streaming services work on the web?
In the context of this thread (about Justin.tv) who as far as I can tell, only have servers in California (Berkeley/San Francisco), it doesn't matter which DNS you query - they will all direct you to the same end point.
On March 14 2011 14:06 Baarn wrote: Another example is that Blizzard uses a local dns here in san diego for bnet servers where I live so that data center is a few miles from me. So by using a local dns here I can cut the time of my connection to their servers since the distance is so short meaning I will have a lower ping which helps a great deal in gaming.
Whoa! This discussion was about DNS vs. sustained download speeds (throughput). Not ping times. I'm not arguing that using certain DNS services can improve your browsing speeds, I'm arguing that throughput against a single specific server is non-DNS related.
As a side note to this discussion, last 2 days i have noticed not great but HUGE IMMENSE increase of performance when watching justin.tv. Before 240P lagged, now I have little trouble watching everything at best.
i'm trying to watch the day9 daily and the stream is frozen 95% of the time even on 240p. there is no explanation. my internet is fine. i can watch 3 ustream channels at once with no problem.
On March 15 2011 02:47 HellGreen wrote: @Baarn It seems you're assuming there are multiple end points to each service. I'm not. I think we need to agree on what we're discussing. . I live in Denmark (Europe) and no matter what DNS I use a always get the same end point when watching a stream on www.justin.tv. This is because their servers are located in Berkeley, CA (ie. http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/199.9.249.184). Now I agree that if a streaming service had multiple locations, you would probably get higher speeds from closest geo-location, but it shouldn't matter much from a througput point of view. Right now I'm watching a stream from the user "vVvrigid". I'm downloading ~1mbit/s. Whether I got connected to an East coast or West coast server really shouldn't be noticeable in throughput at those kind of speeds. There's a whole other discussion in this, from the providers POV that could affect the stream experience (even distribution of users and such), but that's not what we're discussing.
On March 14 2011 14:06 Baarn wrote: Let's say you live on the east coast and are currently using a dns on the west coast. So when you connect to netflix you get a cdn that is obviously gonna be on the west coast when you connect.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong in the assumption that only a physical close DNS server will give you the closest available service. Look up "Anycast" on Wikipedia. If set up correctly, you will get the closer server no matter which DNS you query.
On March 14 2011 14:06 Baarn wrote: So your throughput isn't gonna be the same as if you switched to googledns and got a cdn on the east coast to connect to. Does that make sense to you now about how streaming services work on the web?
In the context of this thread (about Justin.tv) who as far as I can tell, only have servers in California (Berkeley/San Francisco), it doesn't matter which DNS you query - they will all direct you to the same end point.
On March 14 2011 14:06 Baarn wrote: Another example is that Blizzard uses a local dns here in san diego for bnet servers where I live so that data center is a few miles from me. So by using a local dns here I can cut the time of my connection to their servers since the distance is so short meaning I will have a lower ping which helps a great deal in gaming.
Whoa! This discussion was about DNS vs. sustained download speeds (throughput). Not ping times. I'm not arguing that using certain DNS services can improve your browsing speeds, I'm arguing that throughput against a single specific server is non-DNS related.
Best Regards,
Justin.tv had multiple endpoints up until they decided to go on their own and drop amazon and akamai recently. I was under the impression, before reading an article or two, that they were still with those 2 companies which provide end points globally. Maybe once Justin is finished with their transition to their solo venture then things will improve? So in this situation I'll agree with you that dns isn't gonna help with connectivity to a cdn that only has 2 ip's currently in the same data center.
On March 09 2011 11:07 R1CH wrote: Are you getting packet loss? What's your OS? Have you tweaked your TCP settings? Any proxy / firewall software? Why do you hate the TL horse mascot?
LOL, Ad-block is on for him! xD I love how you actually caught that while none of the others did! xD What do you think would be better to stream? Chrome, FF or IE?
LOL, Ad-block is on for him! xD I love how you actually caught that while none of the others did! xD What do you think would be better to stream? Chrome, FF or IE?
different browsers shouldn't make any difference in viewing streams, they all use flash to load the player anyway
Hey I have this exact problem and only for justintv. I have done the pingtest and actually get an A rating at some times so I know it cant be my internet connection. Then additionally Ustream, youtube, gomtv all work perfectly fine with no delay. For some reason justintv will play for 5-10 sec then stop for ~2-3 sec then rpt. Super annoying and has made Day9 dailys pretty much unwatchable which is a shame cause live is so much better
Any suggestions on what I can do to fix it or is it all on justintv's end?
i was just forced to watch the justin.tv invitational - Lag on own3d.tv - No Lag
and to add insult to injury, on my justin.tv forum account that i posted this thread with, all of my posts are required to be reviewed by a moderator before they are posted
i made a new justin.tv forum account, and the new account doesn't require moderator review
On March 20 2011 06:57 BeanerBurrito wrote:i was just forced to watch the justin.tv invitational - Lag
slow down there buddy, nobody forced you to watch that
On March 20 2011 06:57 BeanerBurrito wrote:and to add insult to injury, on my justin.tv forum account that i posted this thread with, all of my posts are required to be reviewed by a moderator before they are posted
i made a new justin.tv forum account, and the new account doesn't require moderator review
seriously?
well that is just an ass move by justin.tv unless you were flaming them, then that's an understandable action.
I also always feel lag spikes only on justin.tv and no other streaming site.
What annoys me most is not that justin.tv lags but that they got casters to switch by promosing that they will fix the european lag issues in the near future. Which they did remedy to some degree, but if I can't watch a 240p on justin.tv but be fine watching a 720p stream from own3d then that is just not anywhere near "fixed"-status.
i wanted to watch the justin.tv invitational and because of horrible lag i was unable to watch it on any justin.tv stream, and therefore had to use an own3d.tv stream to be able to watch video, instead of a slideshow
the post on their forum is linked in the op, check it out and see if you think i was flaming lol
I too have these issues, and I don't even live in Europe. Like the OP, I'm able to view other streams in high quality with no issues at all, like Ustream or the GOMTV live stream. With JustinTV though, I can drop it down to the absolute minimum quality (240) and still get major lag and framerate skips.
wow, yeah they don't seem to be taking you very seriously. Also what are they talking about reinstalling flash fixing this?
But I am open to suggestions, so I just installed flash on a freshly installed windows inside a VM and oh wonder it's the same result: ustream and own3d working fine while justin.tv lags even at 240p.
I am so glad that TSL was broadcast on ustream. I can only imagine the clusterfuck that would've been on jtv
I'm getting lag when I stream on Justin.tv, switched to Own3d and it was working without lag but a different problem came up so I switched back to justin.tv... Which still lags.
i still can't believe i haven't gotten a single response from the thread on the justin.tv forum
can some people do me a favor and post or at least just view the justin.tv thread, if it is consistently seen maybe they will have more trouble ignoring it?
this is really weird. The problems seem to be very local. I just visited my parents who live over 100 miles away and I could stream 720p streams on my laptop without a problem. This is not due to bandwidth because theirs is smaller than mine at home.
Now I just gotta pinpoint my problem. I'm gonna try and stream from the university, once I get back and then I'll know if JTV just doesn't play nice in certain places or just not some ISPs
On March 09 2011 10:38 BeanerBurrito wrote: ISP - Comcast
This is your problem.
I had a lot of trouble with a number of streaming video sites (ustream, justin.tv, etc.) when I had Comcast. I tried connecting through my neighbor's wireless because he had DSL and I wanted to see if it was a problem with my ISP. Lo and behold, it worked fine even with a marginal wireless signal. I've since switched to DSL and have had no problems with streaming video since.
Yes, cable is theoretically faster than DSL under ideal conditions. But I guess Comcast doesn't invest in enough bandwidth, because during peak usage hours, it's actually a lot slower.
during the same timeframe i can consistently watch all other streaming sites, every single one of them, EXCEPT justin.tv
my problem is different than yours because justin.tv is the only thing that is at fault, and again, it isn't lack of bandwidth or lack of downloading speed on the part of my connection, because of the fact that every other streaming service works correctly, no matter if i have to download more data faster or less data slower
Well he doesn't, he and multiple other people have no problem with ustream and own3d.tv but not with Justin.tv, so I kind of doubt it's the ISP
Well anyways if you were right, that it's the ISPs connection just to JTVs servers then we could fix this by using a vpn-tunneling through a server that has a good connection to JTV and that comcast has a good connection to.
I see ok then well when your logged in JTV has a bandwidth set and sometimes bugs get into it and makes you lag but since you don't log in its not that then do you have the same problem on other streams? maybe its the broadcast your watching that lags and not you
oh my god the people on the justin.tv forums are seriously retarded
so is anyone else getting the exact same lag as always while watching nasl?
because i know i am
seems to me like the nasl and justin.tv have a partnership seeing as they have a special subscription channel and you pay for nasl on justin.tv servers
maybe they could encourage justin.tv to try to fix this issue?
also if you want to laugh read the nasl chat, tons of people saying they are having lag, although the only mod or admin posts i've seen mentioning the lag say essentially
i have no problems on any other streaming site, and the bandwidth images show that nothing is being throttled, even if the download on other streams is HIGHER than on the justin.tv stream
But have you tried a different connection? Most people are not having this problem. I had this problem with Comcast (though with multiple different sites), but don't have it with DSL. I know you don't think it's your ISP, but it would be helpful to try different things to eliminate variables.
On April 13 2011 10:47 CaptainFwiffo wrote: Just trying to help. Guess I learned my lesson.
sorry if you got the wrong impression, but i did say "i will try a different connection whenever i can" as you suggested, thanks
but seriously
do you know how frustrating it is to put this much work and effort into fixing something, get no response from the people who could actually help fix it, and then have random people telling you things like
"JTV has a bandwidth set and sometimes bugs get into it and makes you lag"
Something I've learned working with technical problems over the years is to try lots of different things, one at a time. Half the time the thing that fixes the problem is something that really shouldn't work. Hopefully it'll at least give you more information about the problem.
On April 13 2011 10:21 CaptainFwiffo wrote: Have you tried a different ISP? Do you have a neighbor with DSL? Can you take a laptop to a cafe or something with free wireless?
I'm fairly convinced Comcast throttles streaming video sites.
On Comcast here and doing just fine :D
Could be a regional thing maybe? I'm in the DMV (DC/MD/Virginia) corridor. I've had great service for years though, so no surprise for me.
I have posted here before but as an update... I try streaming Jtv on my mac laptop about 2 yrs old and doesn't work. Then try streaming Jtv on my 6 yr old HP laptop and the streaming works fine...
Yep, justin.tv works the same way for me. Ustream and own3d work perfectly in highest resolution, justin.tv lags on 240p. It was not like that for some time, Justin.tv was always laggy but reasonably, but in last few days it got unwatchable.
Before Justin.tv made the update to allow for picking certain qualities, I was able to watch a stream of a HoN player @ 1080p, after the update I have to watch streams at 480p. No one else really brought up the issue but I guess other people have experienced this.
On April 14 2011 09:34 Blyadischa wrote: Before Justin.tv made the update to allow for picking certain qualities, I was able to watch a stream of a HoN player @ 1080p, after the update I have to watch streams at 480p. No one else really brought up the issue but I guess other people have experienced this.
that fits
however until justin.tv responds to the 4 page 2000+ view thread that i posted a month ago on their help forums, that can't be explored
also, someone else who posted on the justin.tv forum who had the exact same issue posted this
Alright, confirmed today that this is happening on my desktop (Windows 7), laptop (Windows 7), and netbook (Windows XP SP3), in Firefox 4, Firefox 3.6, and Chrome. Also happening on multiple different networks (a wired, and 2 different wireless networks that are on different backbones and ~2 miles apart). They're all high speed networks that I get >8 Mbps down on.
So, this isn't me. I have a few friends who are also having tons of trouble viewing JTV streams at any quality, so I'm wondering what the heck is going on here. Something change recently with JTV's servers/streaming service?
An official comment would be nice.
so the problem exists even on different connections
last night i had zero problems watch NASL, tonight i can't watch 3 seconds of it without it completely freezing up. nothing to do with my connection. the JTV servers are terrible.
Can you please email me your IP address? I work at JTV and we can try to investigate why our connection to you is apparently bad. Sometimes individual ISPs (or even parts of individual ISPs) are going through a bad route to us and we can fix that.
On March 12 2011 17:45 psycroptic wrote: it's justin.tv. some days i can't watch a single stream (even on 240p) on justin.tv while every other streaming site works perfectly. other days i don't have a problem. but it's not my connection.
too bad everyone seems to be switching over to justin.tv
i'm in canada, by the way
This describes my situation as well, but I'm from sweden. Me and my friend both get very poor connections to justin.tv occasionally, but never encounter problems from the other sites. Both using 100Mbit lines.
On April 14 2011 13:34 sarbandia wrote: Can you please email me your IP address? I work at JTV and we can try to investigate why our connection to you is apparently bad. Sometimes individual ISPs (or even parts of individual ISPs) are going through a bad route to us and we can fix that.
Strange, I had the exact same problem. This suggestion from the JTV forum you linked to solved the issue. lag issues i know this wont work for everyone , but its a handy tip ive been using here on jtv for a very long time and yes its helped a number of viewers on a number of streams right click on the video ,click settings , click the centre "file" icon n slide memory bar to unlimited then close at the very least it helps minimise lag and in some cases gets rid of it i find hoping it works for someone as well as it does me -spender252, Junior Member
I'm almost afraid to post this, worrying that the problems will start up again in 5 mins. Still, the stream went from unwatchable at 240p to smooth at 720p as soon as I tried this. :S
On April 15 2011 11:59 EriktheGuy wrote: Strange, I had the exact same problem. This suggestion from the JTV forum you linked to solved the issue. lag issues i know this wont work for everyone , but its a handy tip ive been using here on jtv for a very long time and yes its helped a number of viewers on a number of streams right click on the video ,click settings , click the centre "file" icon n slide memory bar to unlimited then close at the very least it helps minimise lag and in some cases gets rid of it i find hoping it works for someone as well as it does me -spender252, Junior Member
I'm almost afraid to post this, worrying that the problems will start up again in 5 mins. Still, the stream went from unwatchable at 240p to smooth at 720p as soon as I tried this. :S
There's a useful website for checking out internet issues if you suspect it's somewhere between you and the site, but not either party's fault: http://www.internetpulse.com That site collects information about the different backbone servers connected across the area and tells you which connections aren't working well.
I checked the site when MLG Dallas was eperiencing problems, and I noticed that XO's connection to Cogent was quite bad, and as it turns out XO is based in Dallas, and is an ISP... Now, considering that The guys at MLG said that the battle.net issues were tied to a local ISP, I'm pretty sure that is a perfect example of why that site is useful.
What you need to do is use a tracert command to see which servers you are being bounced through between your ISP and justin.tv's server and then check if any of those are having a problem.
Considering this problem, I don't think that this will help you now but it's definitely a very useful site for helping diagnose internet issues.
On April 18 2011 04:32 Bobbias wrote: There's a useful website for checking out internet issues if you suspect it's somewhere between you and the site, but not either party's fault: http://www.internetpulse.com That site collects information about the different backbone servers connected across the area and tells you which connections aren't working well.
I checked the site when MLG Dallas was eperiencing problems, and I noticed that XO's connection to Cogent was quite bad, and as it turns out XO is based in Dallas, and is an ISP... Now, considering that The guys at MLG said that the battle.net issues were tied to a local ISP, I'm pretty sure that is a perfect example of why that site is useful.
What you need to do is use a tracert command to see which servers you are being bounced through between your ISP and justin.tv's server and then check if any of those are having a problem.
Considering this problem, I don't think that this will help you now but it's definitely a very useful site for helping diagnose internet issues.
cant even tracert justin.tv
after the 7th hop, all i get is * * * request time out. i am able to tracert ustream.tv tho, but i have no complaints about them
Some traceroutes of adresses that pop up in the status bar of firefox while watching the stream:
tracert flash.quantserve.net
Tracing route to flash.quantserve.net [64.124.14.63] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.fon [192.168.178.1] 2 253 ms 259 ms 247 ms 87.186.224.205 3 251 ms 259 ms 258 ms 87.190.189.218 4 265 ms 259 ms 259 ms 194.25.6.66 5 254 ms 98 ms 43 ms 194.25.210.70 6 54 ms 54 ms 54 ms xe-1-1-0.mpr1.cdg12.fr.above.net [64.125.24.6] 7 60 ms 62 ms 62 ms xe-4-0-0.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [64.125.31.249] 8 62 ms 106 ms 61 ms so-0-0-0.mpr1.lhr2.uk.above.net [64.125.27.225] 9 144 ms 148 ms 151 ms so-0-1-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.57] 10 133 ms 132 ms 134 ms xe-0-3-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.29.17] 11 171 ms 172 ms 171 ms xe-2-2-0.cr1.iah1.us.above.net [64.125.29.37] 12 207 ms 213 ms 215 ms xe-1-3-0.cr1.lax112.us.above.net [64.125.26.122] 13 245 ms 221 ms 223 ms xe-2-1-0.cr1.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.24.18] 14 209 ms 212 ms 210 ms ge-2-2-0.mpr1.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.30.118] 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 215 ms 204 ms 223 ms forward.markmonitor.com [64.124.14.63]
Trace complete.
tracert stats.jtvnw.net
Tracing route to stats.justin.tv [199.9.249.46] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.fon [192.168.178.1] 2 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms 87.186.224.205 3 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 87.190.189.214 4 65 ms 41 ms 41 ms hh-ea4-i.HH.DE.NET.DTAG.DE [62.154.33.34] 5 85 ms 201 ms 211 ms 194.25.210.226 6 139 ms 139 ms 139 ms xe-3-0-3.ar1.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.31.230] 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. etc. etc.
Bigpet wrote: Now I just gotta pinpoint my problem. I'm gonna try and stream from the university, once I get back and then I'll know if JTV just doesn't play nice in certain places or just not some ISPs
I just used the vpn from my University and it works without any lag whatsoever. So it actually is a bad route that my normal ISP takes. Is there any reason to tell my ISP that they have a bad route or do big ISPs just ignore their private clients?
On April 15 2011 11:59 EriktheGuy wrote: Strange, I had the exact same problem. This suggestion from the JTV forum you linked to solved the issue. lag issues i know this wont work for everyone , but its a handy tip ive been using here on jtv for a very long time and yes its helped a number of viewers on a number of streams right click on the video ,click settings , click the centre "file" icon n slide memory bar to unlimited then close at the very least it helps minimise lag and in some cases gets rid of it i find hoping it works for someone as well as it does me -spender252, Junior Member
I'm almost afraid to post this, worrying that the problems will start up again in 5 mins. Still, the stream went from unwatchable at 240p to smooth at 720p as soon as I tried this. :S
i had lag aswell, picture freezed every 5 seconds. this started this week. than i installed hotspot shield wich gives me a us ip, now streams runs smooth.
Something must have happened yesterday. I tried to tune in to some streams on j.tv but everyone lagged as hell.
As it's j.tv, i didn't worry too much about it and watched streams on other hosters. I hoped they would solve their problem soon.
But today it's still the same. Carn, Whitera, Lz, Fargo, Slush, Vibe... i tried all the featured streams on j.tv and all lag the same way. Even on 240p.
As naikk has no problems while using an US VPN, there might be only a local problem for EU viewers.
I'm glad there is at least one featured that doesn't use j.tv. I'll watch Mana and hope j.tv get's everything fixed soon.
On May 06 2011 01:08 (Max 20 chars) wrote: Something must have happened yesterday. I tried to tune in to some streams on j.tv but everyone lagged as hell.
As it's j.tv, i didn't worry too much about it and watched streams on other hosters. I hoped they would solve their problem soon.
But today it's still the same. Carn, Whitera, Lz, Fargo, Slush, Vibe... i tried all the featured streams on j.tv and all lag the same way. Even on 240p.
As naikk has no problems while using an US VPN, there might be only a local problem for EU viewers.
I'm glad there is at least one featured that doesn't use j.tv. I'll watch Mana and hope j.tv get's everything fixed soon.
i and many others are from the united states and have this same problem
i think one of the biggest things i wanted to stress in this thread is that it ISN'T only Europeans that have this issue
but, you say it just happened yesterday and never before then?
For what it is worth, I am having similar problems to yours. It doesn't sound like you are having an isolated issue. Using lower quality makes it better, but doesn't eliminate the problem, making me think that you're on to something.
Okay so, for what it's worth, I'm gonna give my 2 cents here.
I sometimes experience this too, mostly when i try to watch NASL live.
like today - I've been having utter lag, the last 30 minutes.. like, 2 seconds of video/audio, and 5 second break.
I tried going directly to jtv, went down to even 240p, no difference.
Refreshing the window, with no effect.
After running for about 10 minutes, it got a bit better, but maybe like 4 sec of audio/video, 4 sec break.
At this point i just switched the stream to "best", and back to 720p, and now it runs smooth, no lag at all.
Now I'm gonna try this out a bit more, with trying to change the quality, and see how it goes.
My theory kinda goes on something like, every time you try to access a stream, you get delt to a server which at that point in time, shows a good enough connection, to stream what you request.
Now if you just keep requesting the stream over and over, eventually you will get delt to a server which consistently delivers a good connection for you.
I don't know if this just is a 1 time quincidence, so I'm gonna test it out a bit more,
Im having the exact same issue as above mentioned these last few days. I do not think it is a problem on our side (Country/region) because everything else works fine. It is impossible to watch any stream via JTV with the constant lagging on any setting.
Anyone else from DK and or Northern Europe experiencing this? Ive looked at the JTV forum but there is no threds about this.
Tryed: Reinstalling flash 10,3,181,14 Deleting cashe and stuff in Firefox 4.01 Google Crome
Sporer rute til justin.tv [199.9.249.30] over et maksimum af 30 hop:
1 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.68.0.1 2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.250.0.225 3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms xe-4-0-0-125-1000M.virnqu1.ip.tele.dk [80.63.52.13] 4 122 ms 125 ms 137 ms as-0.ashbnqp1.us.ip.tdc.net [83.88.31.141] 5 122 ms 123 ms 122 ms eqix.xe-3-2-0.cr1.iad1.us.nlayer.net [206.223.115.60] 6 127 ms 138 ms 125 ms ae1-30g.ar1.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.31.130] 7 * * as46489.xe-3-0-7.ar1.iad1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.10.66] rapporter: Modtagernet ikke tilg‘ngeligt.
I believe that it is a problem with JTV's hosting platform, they've recently had a huge swell in viewership, which is eating up more bandwidth than their network currently supports. This causes little lag spikes for people in certain areas of the network during heavy traffic hours.
I have no idea if I am right or not, but it is the most logical explanation for the problem, and seeing as your internet appears to be quite nice and your browser and flash are up to date the problem is most likely on their end.
I myself have not experienced lag on JTV in awhile, and it's always an issue that is experienced by all people watching streams when I do. Anyways, hope this helps keep people from trying to solve a problem with their computer/connection when none exists.
Since about one week me and a friend experience the exact same problems when we want to watch justin.tv streams. Before that time everything was fine and even 1080p HD US-streamers no problem. But since 3-5 days the streams are almost unwatchable. Even if I choose quality 480p and below.
Some1 else from Denmark/Scandinavia got this problem? We have a 100mbit down/ 80mbit up connection so its definetly not us...
I've always been able to watch justin.tv on the best quality. But now I have the exact same problem. Tried reinstalling flash, remove temporary internet files etc. I'm from Denmark too btw.
Yea i have the same problem to, have a few co workers that have the exact same problem, and all other streams not run on justin.tv runs fine, its only justin.tv, sad thing is its prolly gonna be really hard to find a solution to, if its a region problem, and its not justin.tvs servers fault in some way, cause how do you ask your isp to fix your problem with one single homepage but i really do hope some solution comes up, ive also tried to reinstall flash
From denmark to btw hope its not only a DK problem, cause then we will prolly never get it fixed :D
It used to work fine for me, but since I reinstalled my OS (Win7 32 bit ) a few days back, I've had the exact same problem.. Watching White-ra's stream right now ( He uses JTV ), and it lags to the point where it's unwatchable, which is a shame since Mr. Ra is my favorite streamer : (
I'm sure that it's not my connection, but I'm too lazy to test it atm.
Right so atleast peole from DK get this problem i see. I have emailed JTV about the issue and will post any reply i get. There is no info from any major ISP in DK on their operation information page about this. I work for one of the major ones (On vacation atm though:p )so ill try to get in touch with some network operation dudes and see if there is anything they can do/ or atleast 100% comfirm its not on our side.
Edit: Would be nice if people from DK with this issue could post the following so i have some data i could go on with. Please post with these paramaters:
Your browser and version Flash and version Operation system ISP and connection type
Tracerouter: Go to a commandpromt and write the following tracert justin.tv > trace.txt Copy the content in the file in your post.
Flash: ive used the newest one 10.3.181.22 also tried 10.3.181.14
OS: Windows 7 Pro 64Bit ISP: Tele Danmark 50/5 xDSL
Tracert: My tracert actually looks kinda wierd 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms web2.justin.tv [199.9.249.20] 2 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms web2.justin.tv [199.9.249.20] 3 136 ms 136 ms 136 ms web2.justin.tv [199.9.249.20] 4 136 ms 136 ms 136 ms web2.justin.tv [199.9.249.20] 5 140 ms 140 ms 137 ms web2.justin.tv [199.9.249.20] 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * web2.justin.tv [199.9.249.20] reports: Destination net unreachable.
Though ive tried tracing a few of the other webx.justin.tv servers, they all stop at 6
ive tried streaming from my work to, just to test if the connection had anything but ive seen the same lag there to, though earlier today it actaully ran smoothly for a time
Yeah I got it too, sucks bad. I've used to watch stream with 1080p with no lag what so ever, but in the last few days its been lagging a lot to the extend its unwhatchable even on 240p.
Browser: Chrome 12.0.742.91
Newest flash version
OS Windows 7 Home 64 bit ISP Fullrate.dk 40/2
Tracert: Tracing route to justin.tv [199.9.249.14] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms (NONE) [192.168.0.1] 2 31 ms 41 ms 23 ms 95.166.154.1 3 21 ms 22 ms 22 ms ge1-0-7.mr1.ar.dk.ip.fullrate.dk [90.185.4.181] 4 23 ms 45 ms 22 ms te0-0-0.mr2.ar.dk.ip.fullrate.dk [90.185.4.149] 5 24 ms 26 ms 22 ms xe-2-2-0.arcnqp7.dk.ip.tdc.net [195.215.109.205] 6 117 ms 116 ms 116 ms as-0.nyk2nqp1.us.ip.tdc.net [83.88.29.23] 7 132 ms 132 ms 132 ms paix-nyc.xe-4-3-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [198.32.118.77] 8 132 ms 132 ms 133 ms ae6-30g.cr1.nyc2.us.nlayer.net [69.31.34.135] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. etc
1 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ge-0-1-0-1103.henqu2.dk.ip.tdc.net [87.59.192.41] 2 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms as-0.nyk2nqp1.us.ip.tdc.net [83.88.29.23] 3 128 ms 131 ms 127 ms paix-nyc.xe-4-3-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [198.32.118.77] 4 126 ms 127 ms 126 ms ae6-30g.cr1.nyc2.us.nlayer.net [69.31.34.135] 5 * * * Anmodning fik timeout. 6 * * * Anmodning fik timeout. .....
Same problem, also from Denmark. A work around is to shift between resolution and quality(low/high) as one guy said. It took me a few minutes but then it works with no lag at all. Just don't change it after that
there might be something about the change of quality untill you get a stabel connection, ive just noticed when i tried a stream now, that it is going flawless, and then a ran a tracert and noticed it pointed to the web1.justin.tv where the other times it was the web7 or web5 i think, so im gonna try and play a little tomorrow with getting it to pick the web1 when i wanna see stream, to kinda test if it has anything to do with what server you get connected to perhaps, there might be something there.
Mactator could you try and run a tracert to justin.tv when you streaming runs smooth to see wich server it points to
The log from tracert is the same as Wesh's above. The problem with the lag is not consistent though. Some streams run smoothly at low quality, others at high quality. Probably just a temporary problem.
On June 10 2011 02:02 Tolabakai wrote: Im having the exact same issue as above mentioned these last few days. I do not think it is a problem on our side (Country/region) because everything else works fine. It is impossible to watch any stream via JTV with the constant lagging on any setting.
Anyone else from DK and or Northern Europe experiencing this? Ive looked at the JTV forum but there is no threds about this.
I'm from Denmark and have the same problem.. Though it seems like some streams from jtv do not lag for me, while others do.
same, some streams from JustinTV lags and freezes all the time and some others doesnt. totaly unwatchable, lowering to like 240p doesnt change anything. :/
Same problem, from Turkey. Doesn't matter if I'm watching it on JTV, or through TL, or with pop-up video. Video resolution does not matter. I have no problem with GOM TV GSL Streams, I watched both MLG Colombus streams on high without a single hiccup, but I can't watch anything on JTV.
<-- Another dane with the same problem. As many others I had no problems until recently. It started the same day Justin.tv aired TwitchTV (June the 9th I believe). So I guess the problem has something to do with it. I also tried reinstall browser / flash player etc without any result. If anyone has any suggestions / solutions they are most welcome.
wtf im not the only one having huge lags at JTV ?!?! Im almost happy now. I thought it was just me and Ive tried what OP (thread maker) everything he has done. has same problem.. Damn i was mad now all my anger all gone. im not the only one ..... weee ? lol
Hello, According to this thread justin.tv is aware of a "international problem" and are looking into it. No word of a fix or timeline.
For me the lag started earlier than June 9th - I believe it was a day or two after MLG. I know this, because MLG was apparently streamed via justin.tv (see here) and it ran fine all weekend.
Just to make the magnitude of this problem clear, I can vouch for at least three people with the same problems, plus it has been a hot topic of discussion in the Danish chat channel ("dk" on EU) for the past few days.
Edit: Forgot to say that if I leave the lagging stream on for long enough (15-20 minutes at 240p) it sometimes stabilizes and becomes watchable. But it starts lagging again at some point.
I'm from Denmark and have this problem. Very frustrating - might miss out on TL attack tommorow because of it. :< The lag seems to be worse in the evening - anyone else agree with that?
On June 12 2011 02:12 Silver777 wrote: I've also started having this problem after MLG, assumed it would fix itself, but the streams are unwatchable and I live in PA.
Same for me, i live in GA and before i would watch NASL on 1080p and it was perfectly smooth, now it lags even on 480p
Streams will usually load fine (although it often takes a while), but 5-10 minutes in either stutter, or just go black and not reload. DC area, Virginia side. Connection is Verizon DSL and is bad anyway (slow during peak hours, not always reliable) but jtv is way worse than any other streaming.
Also had problems when living in MI either at my place (Comcast cable) or my parents' (AT&T DSL). UStream's always been miles better and reliable, was kind of confused that everybody's mostly switched away now.
So dont worry they are aware of the problem but its seems to be fixed. If however you are still having issues please post on the JTV help forums in one of the lag threds.
Terrible lag continues here, lags every second, resolution does not matter.
Something funny: Before the game, like when TB put up some music along with his Shoutcraft banner, there was no lag. However, the second game started, it all began again. I can't watch anything because 99% of all streams are on JTV.
EDIT: As of now, it seems the NASL stream lags considerably less right now it is watchable. I'll wait to see if the problem is permanently fixed, or it is going to freak out and update here.
Hoping JustinTV doesnt lag tonight and I can watch the matches.
The issue is, when they are playing pre-recorded stuff like funny poses of Incontrol with Gretorp or player statistics, it doesn't lag. When the game starts, it lags!
had problems viewing the FXO king of the hill tourney on justin.tv last night. Unwatchable due to choppy stream, at all quality settings. Tried several browsers.
12mbit downstream, i7 950/12gb/580gtx, no back ground tasks running, restarted pc several times. To no avail...
still experiencing this issue while watching nasl finals, it seems to occur more often than not during a big battle or good moment that you need a stable stream the most for
I support this thread. I have experienced lag in every single SC2 event streamed on jtv, so I can only watch stuff like NASL and EG MC from vods. It is absolutely a jtv issue, and I hope they become aware of it and fix it soon, since they are currently the most active supporter of SC2 streaming.
Yeah, I'm also having the same issue and I live in the US. NASL was unwatchable. I'm half glad I never payed for it, but honestly I wish I had just for the vods because I only saw snippets and frames of what happened in game 7. Sucks. Good to know its not just me! Please fix it JTV
i think justin.tv has given up on fixing this issue, they are ignoring my 16k view, 14 page thread that i made on their tech support forum back in march, i laugh when i read posts of "give them some time to fix it"
i think 7 months is long enough to wait for an update
I am having the same lag issues, only with Justin.tv/Twitch.tv. No other of the streaming sites seems to have any problemas.
As this seems to be a widespread problem, and has nothing to do with computer, software or connection, why don't we take this to the streamers, and ask them to change services? If Justin.Tv starts to see their streams and audiences lower and lower because of this, they will have to do something about it.
On September 21 2011 09:50 TinchoSN wrote: I am having the same lag issues, only with Justin.tv/Twitch.tv. No other of the streaming sites seems to have any problemas.
As this seems to be a widespread problem, and has nothing to do with computer, software or connection, why don't we take this to the streamers, and ask them to change services? If Justin.Tv starts to see their streams and audiences lower and lower because of this, they will have to do something about it.
because justin.tv pays the players
they would be perfect if they fixed this issue, but for me they are unwatchable because of this issue
On September 21 2011 11:37 Soulforged wrote: For last couple weeks I'm completely unable to watch any justin/twitch stream. Started using a US proxy today...no lags at all. lol
Soulforged could you explain how did you use a US proxy please? i tried myself but all i get is "You have been blocked from using Justin.tv services, for more information please visit this page to learn more." I have the same problem as everyone and i too have good pc and internet (50 down, 10 up), for example watching destiny at 1080+ i have the same lag as in OP's video, but 720p is fine.
Bumping this again, looks like JTV still as bad as always. Lots of users were getting lag during IPL, and now again at IEM (seems the SC2 stream is alright but LoL is unwatchable). If you have problems, please e-mail tournament organizers to persuade them not to stream on JTV any longer. JTV has known about these issues for a long time and does nothing to fix them.
Is there some major problem with Jtv this weekend?
Yesterday IEM had lots of lags and later the stream was even shown offline for me even though others were watching it. I did some F5 party and suddenly it worked again - with lags.
Today it didn't load again at all. Tried different Jtv streams and none loads. Just dark screen or still image as if the stream was offline. Tried different browsers - nothing. Tried mobile phone via Wifi - nothing. Tried phone via 3G - still no Jtv streams loading. (Normally all of these things do work)
I don't get it how this is possible without Jtv having major problems as I tried different devices and different completely independed internet connections. But with major problems I'd expect lots of posts on that issue and that's not the case. So I'm pretty confused at the moment.
edit: Just tried it again out of curiosity and after 1 1/2 days of problems everthing seems to work again. Didn't do anything besides watching MLG.
On October 16 2011 04:24 (Max 20 chars) wrote: Is there some major problem with Jtv this weekend?
Yesterday IEM had lots of lags and later the stream was even shown offline for me even though others were watching it. I did some F5 party and suddenly it worked again - with lags.
Today it didn't load again at all. Tried different Jtv streams and none loads. Just dark screen or still image as if the stream was offline. Tried different browsers - nothing. Tried mobile phone via Wifi - nothing. Tried phone via 3G - still no Jtv streams loading. (Normally all of these things do work)
I don't get it how this is possible without Jtv having major problems as I tried different devices and different completely independed internet connections. But with major problems I'd expect lots of posts on that issue and that's not the case. So I'm pretty confused at the moment.
It is a major problem, it's been happening for a long time. Welcome to the lucky group of us who can't watch anything on jtv.
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