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Wiggles88
United States52 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Most recent concerns/configurations, just need review and I hope the 460 goes with the 430D Earthwatts and Biostar AE770E MOBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yea, fucking hell dude. $8 shipping actually drives me crazy. Its $18 to literally get a GPU twice as good. I mean compare that price, to doing a Crossfire of the 4850. Ugh, fuck it, I have $425 on my credit card and the 460 makes it 424. Okay, here's the build, I don't see why I can't order this tonight, and the specs: Athlon II X3 3.2Ghz 2GB Ram Galaxy GTX460 1GB 160GB HDD 7200 RPM SATA 8mb cache 430W PSU (Antec Earthwatts) Midtower ATX Biostar AE7770E cheapo ATX mobo Kingston HyperX Blu 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Cas 9 $19 MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II SOC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127519 $124 Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034 $44 AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX450WFGMBOX + BIOSTAR A770E3 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard Combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.581121 $124 Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136590 $23 Cheapest WD *NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Cheap, recommended on guide. Im inclined to use a cardboard box as my case though. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146061 $39 (buying case cheaper at Wal-Mart) | ||
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Wiggles88
United States52 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Wiggles88
United States52 Posts
HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Gaming Case w/ Front Blue LED 120mm Fan & Top 120mm Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811121096 Western Digital AV-GP WD2500AVVS 250GB 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal AV Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136523 (don't get a refurbished HDD because the last thing you want is HDD crash in a month or DOA first day) BIOSTAR A780L3L AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138290 AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX435WFGMBOX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103920 Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V V2.2 Intel Core i7 Compliant Dual 80mm Fans Full Cable Sleevings Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023 Kingston ValueRAM 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9/2G http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134812 PowerColor AX5850 1GBD5-DH Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131386 | ||
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Wiggles88
United States52 Posts
Oh, and I was wrong, you are correct, the 4850 is $169. Besides the fact that nVidea gfx cards tend to do things like produce artifacts, blue screens, and windows OS errors/crashes, here is My breakdown of the 4850 vs the GTX 460 you chose: (Left side is 4850, right is Nvidea 460) 1 GB 256-bit vs 768 MB 192-bit (noticeable difference) 725 core clock vs 750 core clock (not noticeable) 1440 Stream processing units vs 336 Processing cores (big difference) Effective memory clock 1000MHz (4.0Gbps) vs 3600MHz (not sure about this one) OpenGL 3.2 vs OpenGL 4.0 (Don't know what OpenGL really is but 4.0 should be better. REAL price difference = $20 $169 vs $149 (minus rebate = $124.99) Want to know why the real difference is $20? Because you pay $149 upfront, and you get that rebate check in 4-8 weeks maybe. Not worth it. Money loses value over time, therefore the $25 would depreciate over the 6 weeks or so that you wait for it. I'm not saying that in a literal sense, but rather an economics perspective. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
ASUS GeForce GT 240 $80 AMD Phenom II x2 555 + 770 Mobo $159 Antec Earthwatts 500W $50 WD Caviar Blue 160GB $23 2 x2GB DDR3 RAM $38 Total: ~$385 More powerful CPU, PSU, and 2GB more RAM, and a weaker GPU that can still satisfy smooth Medium play. It leaves you with ~$20 (if you factor in shipping), which you can use to upgrade your HDD (recommended) or GPU. The more powerful PSU is a fairly cheap upgrade, and leaves more room to upgrade later. EDIT: Actually, the $20 could probably be well-spent on a disc drive >.> | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
-Cases are same price, i'll check it out. - Your HDD isn't Caviar, which I assume is the newer generation of HDD. But I'm totally speaking out of my ass here. Isn't the Caviar non-color a generation back, meaning that one is 2 generations back? Either way, its $10 more expensive than my Caviar Blue Recertified, although its double the space and not recertified. 160 is more than anyone ever needs unless they dont delete their downloaded movies every week or takes pictures/art/video professionally and must store them. I can easily get an external or extra if its an issue though. (lol just read that refurbished line. Its no biggie if it crashes, I'll back it up and not put anything important at first. WD Caviar Blue should be good quality anyways) - Nice CPU choice, but .3ghz more is only $8. Essentially the same choice though. - I'm spending a dollar more for my PSU which has better 12v ratings, and from what I understand is superior quality. From what I understand of PSUs and 12v rails, the PSU you posted is equivalent to power/watts/quality as the Antec Earthwatts 380D I posted on the first page. While the 380D may be a better choice for me, i went safe and chose the 430D, which is the next step up of the same product, so I'd be safe for overclocking or whatever I wanted to do, and a larger operating margin. - RAM, you addressed it yourself. However its cheaper before rebate, i may have to pick that RAM to be able to order this, as I have $425 on my credit card and im spending about $424. - $45 for my mobo after my combo deal is counted in. Yours is $34. Amazing, I'll check it out too, although I imagine mine is superior quality since its technically a $60 mobo. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
NZXT Gamma Case $40 ASUS GeForce GT 240 $80 AMD Phenom II x2 555 + 770 Mobo $159 Antec Earthwatts 500W $50 WD Caviar Blue 160GB $23 2 x2GB DDR3 RAM $38 Total: ~$385 More powerful CPU, PSU, and 2GB more RAM, and a weaker GPU that can still satisfy smooth Medium play. It leaves you with ~$20 (if you factor in shipping), which you can use to upgrade your HDD (recommended) or GPU. The more powerful PSU is a fairly cheap upgrade, and leaves more room to upgrade later. EDIT: Actually, the $20 could probably be well-spent on a disc drive >.> Actually, the .3GHZ speed difference makes the Athlon II better for starcraft, despite the L3 cache. There are many benchmarks on this. There is a phenom for $10 more at the same speed, but I dont think its worth that price difference. And I dont know what you are talking about actually, because what your posting is a combo difference of $30 from my $124 CPU+Mobo. The 4850, I believe, is better than the 240, for the same price. I could be wrong, and I'm still debating whether to spend $86 on a 4850 or $124AR/149 for a 260. I do count rebate prices though, I can be a real dick on the phone  Earthwatts 500w is a step up in power frmo the Earthwatts 430w i chose, and the earthwatts 380 is all I need but i chose the 430 to be safe and have huge leg room. 500w is overkill, 430 is a bit overkill but can be justified when saying you want to operate at 70% or less of full power, and earthwatts is safe and probably the best choice if never changing. As for RAM, 2GB is enough for Windows 7 and SC2. Plus, in the future, I can buy another stick. But the $19 price increase for the 4GB setup you posted to the 2GB I posted, is better spent on a GPU or even CPU, which are harder to upgrade anyways whereas I'll just buy another 2GB stick in a month or so. | ||
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Wiggles88
United States52 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
oh and dvds are outdated anyways, i download all my movies anyways, and ill rip a cd drive from a junkyard pc. edit: ah damn your case is no shipping, its actually cheaper lol. ill read reviews on other websites then. i notice it has 2 fans instead of 1, but i can get a million shitty quality fans at the junkyard for free anyways. | ||
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Wiggles88
United States52 Posts
$32 Case shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164094 $16 DVD drive shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039 | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
I'll be sure to post benchmark stuff. In the meantime, be sure to check out all my threads crying about where does the eletrical plug go and and which direction does the CPU fit in the slot! | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
I downloaded an Activated/cracked Windows 7, formatted and partitioned a USB drive, and stick it into the computer. Then I went into Bios setup and changed boot priority to Hard Drive, and of the hard drives changed it so USB 2.0 is 1, 2 is my Sata recertified HDD (which makes it show USB as 1st on boot priority)... And I get "Bootmg is missing. Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to restart" . Which is lame. I may try to put Ubuntu on for now, and then switch to Windows 7 from HDD, if I can. And funny thing, ctrl+alt+dlt isnt working to restart the computer (it was earlier) but I dont think that's a big issue. I avoided a big problem with my motherboard where the Bios doesnt accept AM3 cpu's sometimes because the bios doesnt have the latest updates, but it seems mine is fine. And my HDD is recognized as 160GB sata in the bios, the gpu fans spin, my cpu specs and name are listed, my memory seems to be there, so it looks like everything works. Just this firmware problem  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Follow this guide: http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/ | ||
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