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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
anyways how do i get a 64bit computer anyways? Or is it a matter of downloading the right torrents (Windows 7 64bit) or when it is installed select 64 bit instead of 32? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
Anyway, how powerful of a graphics card are you even looking for? | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
+3.3V@25A, +5V@25A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@22A,, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@2.0A There's a 15% rebate on this. The 12v rails are way higher than the Antec 430D, and getting this PSU will drop the price about $2, meaning I can get that next more expensive 460, which is $20 more basically than the 460 I was gunning for. Yay? I'm not sure you should be spending all of your money on a gaming rig, especially if you can't even purchase an OS to go with it >.> Anyway, how powerful of a graphics card are you even looking for? Its just a matter of getting back on work next week. I spent all my money in Africa/Spain/Portugal on vacation, and had $425.00 on my travel credit card left. Its not a matter of I cant make money, as I manage a restaurant. I just graduated and waiting on the girl to finish this semester so we can move to the west coast so we can get real jobs with our bachelors. As for the OS, that's what waffles and stuff is for. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
FYI reason I can still 'afford' this is because that 460 I picked was so cheap because of a $50 rebate, which didnt affect the cost to my credit card. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On January 31 2011 14:55 Belial88 wrote: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply +3.3V@25A, +5V@25A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@22A,, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@2.0A There's a 15% rebate on this. The 12v rails are way higher than the Antec 430D, and getting this PSU will drop the price about $2, meaning I can get that next more expensive 460, which is $20 more basically than the 460 I was gunning for. Yay? Well, what's on the label is pretty much just an advertisement. You're counting on companies to not make stuff up. As explained before (I think), Raidmax isn't listing a combined +12V rating. If you believe the 22A listed, the combined +12V rating could be anywhere between 22A (264W) and 44A (528W). Considering that it's Raidmax, it's likely referring to peak power rather than continuous power as well, but...that's just a guess. I don't know anything about that unit really. Most reputable brands will give a max rating on each +12V rail and will give a total limit: something like +12V1, +12V2 (combined) max load 384W, as the Earthwatts 430D does. Electrically, all +12V rails in most all PSUs are connected through to the same +12V rectifier circuitry, so it's the rating of the whole +12V system (combined rating) that's relevant. Each rail corresponds to whatever plugs are connected to it. Some go to one rail and some go to another. Each rail usually just has a separate overcurrent trip point monitor to make sure the current drawn on those plugs combined isn't too far over the specified amount. Though, in practice, many power supplies that list multiple +12V rails don't actually have multiple overcurrent monitors (even some units that are solid and reputable), so they don't actually have multiple rails. False advertising ftw. On January 31 2011 13:26 skyR wrote: 3) 2^32 = 4.2 billion, aka 4gb of addressable memory. If you get 4GB of RAM, a GTX 460 1GB. That means you will be left with 3GB of RAM because your GTX 460 needs 1GB to operate as well. If you add another GTX 460 1GB for SLI than you would be left with 2GB of RAM and so on... So always select 64bit operating systems as we won't be reaching 2^64 for a long time... I'm fairly sure that amount of VRAM does not map 1-to-1 with addressable space reserved for the GPU in a 32-bit OS, but I can't find confirmation about that. For anecdotal evidence, my laptop with 3 GB of RAM is running 32-bit Windows 7 with a GPU with 512 MB VRAM, and the main amount of addressable space reserved to the GPU is D0000000-DFFFFFFF (corresponds to 256 MB unless my math is failing me). There are a few much smaller chunks reserved for the GPU too, but they don't amount to another 256 MB. Anyway, the point about wanting a 64-bit OS is still valid. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127519 I think I'm going to go with this card instead of the : Galaxy 60XMH6HS3HMW GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) GC 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162058 Because it was out of stock. My question, is the MSI better (performance, dont care about noise)? I'm essentially paying an extra $20, which is $36 more than the 4850 i was considering. I'm going to buy my NXZT case at tigerdirect instead, where it is $0.53 cheaper due to shipping. Or i may revert to the 4850 instead. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
I have the 1GB version and just to give you some perspective. I run SC2 on Ultra @ 2048x1152 at 120 fps at the start of games and never dropping below 50 in 1v1s. I overclocked it from 780mhz (stock) to 850mhz with no voltage adjustments and it runs at 30c idle and 63c load (50% fan speed). Keep in mind that the 768mb version is a little worse than 1gb version so don't expect my results =p | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
I remember few years ago all you could get was a phasing out e-machine  | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Don't you think GTX 460 is just a "little" overkill for your goal of Low/Medium smooth play? You could save yourself a lot of headaches if you just went with a weaker, cheaper card >.> Hm you're right. I may just go with the 4850. At $104, it was a no brainer to spend $17 for literally twice the power (not exaggerating). But with the Galaxy 460 being out of stock, its now basically $37 to do that (with the $124 MSI being the new cheapest 460). The 4850, I believe, left SC2 at High settings, and the 460 at Ultra. Of course, I play the game for the thrill of competition, not necessarily the graphics or UMS (only play 1v1 ladder), so I may simply decide to play on Low just like everyone else does on SC2, although I dont know how true that is. I don't really know what to do, it took me a week to finally go with the 460 instead, and now with this going on, I'm not sure. I do know the GPU is my bottleneck though. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
The GT 240 you mentioned earlier is perfectly fine for what you want to do, and you could spend the money you save on a larger HDD and/or a better CPU. | ||
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Wiggles88
United States52 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Hey Belial88, I did about an hour of research and I got what I feel is a good list for you for $430 shipped. Let me get your email address so I can send you the list. Thanks! Just post or PM me Anyways, I could go crazy. I could say "Fuck it, just get the way cheap 4850" or I could say "fuck it, just buy the 460 and be able to afford it" I mean seriously, $20 is not hard to come by anyways... thats an hour or two of work. | ||
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