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PiPaPoh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
121 Posts
August 25 2012 12:57 GMT
#1621
On August 24 2012 11:58 xgtx wrote:
do kespa pros still play with the same mouse? because I guess they play sc2 in high resolution, and their old mouses have only 400dpi.


Flash started with his Logi optical mini, yes.
the low dpi isnt an issue. got myself a logi g1 and a logi optical
and playing with win7 speed 6 and sc2 52.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 25 2012 13:22 GMT
#1622
On August 25 2012 21:57 PiPaPoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 11:58 xgtx wrote:
do kespa pros still play with the same mouse? because I guess they play sc2 in high resolution, and their old mouses have only 400dpi.


Flash started with his Logi optical mini, yes.
the low dpi isnt an issue. got myself a logi g1 and a logi optical
and playing with win7 speed 6 and sc2 52.

SC2 mouse sensitivity overrides the windows sensitivity settings. For example if you have windows set to 6/11, and %62 in SC2, the latter is used and the former is ignored.
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Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
August 25 2012 13:26 GMT
#1623
52 should be very near if not exactly 6/11.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 25 2012 15:04 GMT
#1624
On August 25 2012 22:26 Ljas wrote:
52 should be very near if not exactly 6/11.

%51-55 in SC2 is the same as 6/11 in the Windows settings yes.
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chivs688
Profile Joined December 2011
25 Posts
August 28 2012 02:18 GMT
#1625
So I'm looking to buy either the Steelseries Kinzu V2 Pro or the Sensei Raw.

I've found the Kinzu for £33 and the Sensei for £40.

I know the Sensei is technically the better mouse, but I'm coming from using a random wireless awful mouse, so would I even notice any difference between them?

I spend quite a lot of time gaming casually, playing Starcraft 2 and Counter-Strike, and general PC use.

So would it be worth spending the extra money on the Sensei if I doubt I would really recognise the difference and am coming from an awful mouse?

I know it's only £7 but money's tight! But if it's really worth spending the extra for the Sensei then I would be willing to.

Thanks.
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
August 28 2012 22:29 GMT
#1626
No experience with the Sensei but I hate the Kinzu V2 Pro; it has stiff buttons and glossy top. Its sensor is bad for FPSs too. I'd definitely go for the Sensei.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
AeralHero
Profile Joined January 2012
Bulgaria29 Posts
August 29 2012 09:25 GMT
#1627
On August 25 2012 21:19 wo1fwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:07 AeralHero wrote:

What mouse do you guys think is better for sc2,league,dota 2 Tt Azurues or Logiteh G400,i found i am in need of a new mouse and i stumbled upon a sale where both of the mice are at the same price but i cant decide between the two.

need to discern your grip style first, that will tell you which mouse will be "better".

Well i have the "claw" grip style also i like to lift up and move my mouse arround alot so id like it to me light and to have a comfortable thumb grip.
etherealfall
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 07:16:59
September 02 2012 06:52 GMT
#1628
Hey guys, I'm on the market for a new mouse.

My grip style is claw; as I found out after long usage with my old edition Mamba - it simply wasn't comfortable after long hours of use. My old mamba sensors are now failing on me as it regularly stops responding for periods (albeit short) at a time.

I primarily only use the standard mouse buttons + the thumb buttons of the Mamba and would like to keep it that way. I don't mind more, but so far that's all I've adapted to.

I have sweaty hands at times, and so prefer a soft matte feel.

I live in Australia, so certain consumables such as the R.A.T 9 batteries are inaccessible for me.

My list of possibilities:
- G9x --> I've actually tried two and had to return both as the grip I wanted to use kept on initiating the side/thumb buttons (rough/coarse standard grip). I liked the feel of it though.
- SteelSeries Sensei - Have heard good things about this mouse
- Cyborg 7 - http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2=24&bid=2&sid=96506 (My supplier of all computer products has this with the moniker MAC. Is this specific to Macs?) I like the idea of being essentially completely customizable. That said, I have heard this mouse is quite heavy, which is somewhat of a turn off.
- Roccat Kone - Have heard of jittery sensors. Is this a common issue?
- Corsair M60/M90 - different mice I know, but they both seem quite viable. The above 4 are my primary selection range, but the Corsairs I threw in there since they look like they would be quite comfortable and would do what I need it to do.

I've really only used the Mamba in wired mode, since I kept on forgetting to charge it. I have no particular aversion to wireless.

My DPI is set to 1200, and likely won't go up too much.

Help guys!
Gumbotwins
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
September 02 2012 08:12 GMT
#1629
He,

I'm Also coming from a Mamba, switched over some months ago to the sensei and i'm in love ever since.
Great preformance overal (sensor), also the clicks feel just great to me :D they make a mechanicy sound (i like.)

I surely recommend you the sensei, i think its overal the same size as the mamba, so that shoudn't be a problem.
If you want a matte, you should go with the sensei Raw (without lights and such) and rubbery coating.

Also most people (myself included) use the Gx9 shellles, which is probably one of the smaller gaming mouses around. Also it uses the same sensor as the sensei as i'm correct? So preformance wise there very close to each other.

So its up to you you like a smaller mouse? Choose the Gx9 (shellles)
want a bigger (matte) mouse; Sensei Raw

I personally whould choose for the Sensei, but thats just a matter of personal taste.

Polt, MMA, MVP. Terran triforce!
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 02 2012 12:25 GMT
#1630
On August 25 2012 21:57 PiPaPoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 11:58 xgtx wrote:
do kespa pros still play with the same mouse? because I guess they play sc2 in high resolution, and their old mouses have only 400dpi.


Flash started with his Logi optical mini, yes.
the low dpi isnt an issue. got myself a logi g1 and a logi optical
and playing with win7 speed 6 and sc2 52.


this would be ridiculously slow...
Dwragon
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 22:30:47
September 02 2012 22:29 GMT
#1631
On September 02 2012 15:52 etherealfall wrote:
Hey guys, I'm on the market for a new mouse.

My grip style is claw; as I found out after long usage with my old edition Mamba - it simply wasn't comfortable after long hours of use. My old mamba sensors are now failing on me as it regularly stops responding for periods (albeit short) at a time.

I primarily only use the standard mouse buttons + the thumb buttons of the Mamba and would like to keep it that way. I don't mind more, but so far that's all I've adapted to.

I have sweaty hands at times, and so prefer a soft matte feel.

I live in Australia, so certain consumables such as the R.A.T 9 batteries are inaccessible for me.

My list of possibilities:
- G9x --> I've actually tried two and had to return both as the grip I wanted to use kept on initiating the side/thumb buttons (rough/coarse standard grip). I liked the feel of it though.
- SteelSeries Sensei - Have heard good things about this mouse
- Cyborg 7 - http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2=24&bid=2&sid=96506 (My supplier of all computer products has this with the moniker MAC. Is this specific to Macs?) I like the idea of being essentially completely customizable. That said, I have heard this mouse is quite heavy, which is somewhat of a turn off.
- Roccat Kone - Have heard of jittery sensors. Is this a common issue?
- Corsair M60/M90 - different mice I know, but they both seem quite viable. The above 4 are my primary selection range, but the Corsairs I threw in there since they look like they would be quite comfortable and would do what I need it to do.

I've really only used the Mamba in wired mode, since I kept on forgetting to charge it. I have no particular aversion to wireless.

My DPI is set to 1200, and likely won't go up too much.

Help guys!


Hey guy's I'm pretty much in the same situation as Ethreal, Claw/fingertip here. I'm coming from using the Microsoft Wheel Optical Mouse, which I've been using for maybe half a dozen years now. I'm leaning towards the Sensei RAW for it's similar, ambidextrous shape or the M60. Thing is, I've heard that the Senseis have acceleration issues. Are they really that noticeable? I'll mainly be playing Dota 2, WoW, and FPSs like CS:S, BL:R, and BF3.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
September 02 2012 23:11 GMT
#1632
On September 03 2012 07:29 Dwragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 15:52 etherealfall wrote:
Hey guys, I'm on the market for a new mouse.

My grip style is claw; as I found out after long usage with my old edition Mamba - it simply wasn't comfortable after long hours of use. My old mamba sensors are now failing on me as it regularly stops responding for periods (albeit short) at a time.

I primarily only use the standard mouse buttons + the thumb buttons of the Mamba and would like to keep it that way. I don't mind more, but so far that's all I've adapted to.

I have sweaty hands at times, and so prefer a soft matte feel.

I live in Australia, so certain consumables such as the R.A.T 9 batteries are inaccessible for me.

My list of possibilities:
- G9x --> I've actually tried two and had to return both as the grip I wanted to use kept on initiating the side/thumb buttons (rough/coarse standard grip). I liked the feel of it though.
- SteelSeries Sensei - Have heard good things about this mouse
- Cyborg 7 - http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2=24&bid=2&sid=96506 (My supplier of all computer products has this with the moniker MAC. Is this specific to Macs?) I like the idea of being essentially completely customizable. That said, I have heard this mouse is quite heavy, which is somewhat of a turn off.
- Roccat Kone - Have heard of jittery sensors. Is this a common issue?
- Corsair M60/M90 - different mice I know, but they both seem quite viable. The above 4 are my primary selection range, but the Corsairs I threw in there since they look like they would be quite comfortable and would do what I need it to do.

I've really only used the Mamba in wired mode, since I kept on forgetting to charge it. I have no particular aversion to wireless.

My DPI is set to 1200, and likely won't go up too much.

Help guys!


Hey guy's I'm pretty much in the same situation as Ethreal, Claw/fingertip here. I'm coming from using the Microsoft Wheel Optical Mouse, which I've been using for maybe half a dozen years now. I'm leaning towards the Sensei RAW for it's similar, ambidextrous shape or the M60. Thing is, I've heard that the Senseis have acceleration issues. Are they really that noticeable? I'll mainly be playing Dota 2, WoW, and FPSs like CS:S, BL:R, and BF3.

the likely only pertinent question is: in FPS games like CS what is your sensitivity (cm/360° rotation)? If you are a low sens gamer then you may find that the inconsistent acceleration curve on the A9500 a little off putting. If you play at 1200 CPI or higher the acceleration will be far less noticeable, but of course a lot of this depends on whether you can even discern these things in the first place.
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Dwragon
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
September 02 2012 23:48 GMT
#1633
On September 03 2012 08:11 wo1fwood wrote:
the likely only pertinent question is: in FPS games like CS what is your sensitivity (cm/360° rotation)? If you are a low sens gamer then you may find that the inconsistent acceleration curve on the A9500 a little off putting. If you play at 1200 CPI or higher the acceleration will be far less noticeable, but of course a lot of this depends on whether you can even discern these things in the first place.


Well in-game for CS:S I have sensitivity set to 5.00. It takes. 19.05 cm to make 360 degrees.
Soliloquist
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)89 Posts
September 03 2012 10:25 GMT
#1634
Hi,

im using the Tt Black mouse and i was thinking about switching. yes its great but its starting to fail me =(

i use a palm/claw grip and open to many suggestions.

mostly from razor,Steelseries,Tt-esports and Corsair if you dont mind.

could someone give me a few "flagships" for each company?
PiPaPoh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
121 Posts
September 03 2012 10:36 GMT
#1635
On September 02 2012 21:25 ToREcho[5] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 21:57 PiPaPoh wrote:
On August 24 2012 11:58 xgtx wrote:
do kespa pros still play with the same mouse? because I guess they play sc2 in high resolution, and their old mouses have only 400dpi.


Flash started with his Logi optical mini, yes.
the low dpi isnt an issue. got myself a logi g1 and a logi optical
and playing with win7 speed 6 and sc2 52.


this would be ridiculously slow...


no, since I use the same setup.
null00
Profile Joined September 2012
2 Posts
September 03 2012 13:07 GMT
#1636
I'm limited in options in my country and my search lead to me to these 3:
Gigabyte M6800 @ 14$
Gigabyte M6880 @ 18$
Gigabyte M6900 @ 25$

They are on the budget side but I was wondering if you can help me choose between them.
They all have kind of the same grip so that's not a factor, I play fps games so I'm wondering if any of the updates makes sense?
apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 13:51:49
September 03 2012 13:49 GMT
#1637
On September 02 2012 17:12 Gumbotwins wrote:
He,

I'm Also coming from a Mamba, switched over some months ago to the sensei and i'm in love ever since.
Great preformance overal (sensor), also the clicks feel just great to me :D they make a mechanicy sound (i like.)

I surely recommend you the sensei, i think its overal the same size as the mamba, so that shoudn't be a problem.
If you want a matte, you should go with the sensei Raw (without lights and such) and rubbery coating.

Also most people (myself included) use the Gx9 shellles, which is probably one of the smaller gaming mouses around. Also it uses the same sensor as the sensei as i'm correct? So preformance wise there very close to each other.

So its up to you you like a smaller mouse? Choose the Gx9 (shellles)
want a bigger (matte) mouse; Sensei Raw

I personally whould choose for the Sensei, but thats just a matter of personal taste.



I would personally NOT go with Sensei RAW, but rather just Sensei or the MLG version. Simply because RAW (matte/glossy) are the cheaper/crappier version of the sensei. Their feet were made of cheap plastic and so are the side buttons. With the glossy version, if you have sweaty hands, it will start getting slippery and lose grip. Overall, that's pretty much Sensei RAW is cheaper than Sensei and not really worth the money. If Steelseries were still selling Xai, it would have been my first choice before the Sensei. Because they stopped making Xai, I had no other choice but to upgrade to the expensive Sensei and they both feel the same, except that Sensei is just a fancier version of it with lots of pimpin'
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 15:21:17
September 03 2012 15:20 GMT
#1638
On September 03 2012 22:49 apm66 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 17:12 Gumbotwins wrote:
He,

I'm Also coming from a Mamba, switched over some months ago to the sensei and i'm in love ever since.
Great preformance overal (sensor), also the clicks feel just great to me :D they make a mechanicy sound (i like.)

I surely recommend you the sensei, i think its overal the same size as the mamba, so that shoudn't be a problem.
If you want a matte, you should go with the sensei Raw (without lights and such) and rubbery coating.

Also most people (myself included) use the Gx9 shellles, which is probably one of the smaller gaming mouses around. Also it uses the same sensor as the sensei as i'm correct? So preformance wise there very close to each other.

So its up to you you like a smaller mouse? Choose the Gx9 (shellles)
want a bigger (matte) mouse; Sensei Raw

I personally whould choose for the Sensei, but thats just a matter of personal taste.



I would personally NOT go with Sensei RAW, but rather just Sensei or the MLG version. Simply because RAW (matte/glossy) are the cheaper/crappier version of the sensei. Their feet were made of cheap plastic and so are the side buttons. With the glossy version, if you have sweaty hands, it will start getting slippery and lose grip. Overall, that's pretty much Sensei RAW is cheaper than Sensei and not really worth the money. If Steelseries were still selling Xai, it would have been my first choice before the Sensei. Because they stopped making Xai, I had no other choice but to upgrade to the expensive Sensei and they both feel the same, except that Sensei is just a fancier version of it with lots of pimpin'


The feet are the same. The difference is that you don't get fancy lights or a CPU in your mouse, 'exactaim/exactlift technology' that nobody needs/wants anyway, and that you pay 30€ less for the same mouse.

Also the RAW weighs 10% less than the sensei.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
September 03 2012 15:25 GMT
#1639
On September 03 2012 22:07 null00 wrote:
I'm limited in options in my country and my search lead to me to these 3:
Gigabyte M6800 @ 14$
Gigabyte M6880 @ 18$
Gigabyte M6900 @ 25$

They are on the budget side but I was wondering if you can help me choose between them.
They all have kind of the same grip so that's not a factor, I play fps games so I'm wondering if any of the updates makes sense?

I have a friend who uses the M6900, he really likes it although he has not used a decent gaming mouse before.

He uses it for Battlefield 3 and other games, and although he was always a scrub he's now less of a scrub if that helps you decision? xD
null00
Profile Joined September 2012
2 Posts
September 03 2012 17:00 GMT
#1640
On September 04 2012 00:25 TSBspartacus wrote:

I have a friend who uses the M6900, he really likes it although he has not used a decent gaming mouse before.

He uses it for Battlefield 3 and other games, and although he was always a scrub he's now less of a scrub if that helps you decision? xD
Yeah, thanks man. I'm leaning toward the 6900, only a few more $ and I get an optical sensor.
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