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Attsy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States30 Posts
September 21 2012 01:36 GMT
#1661
I would like to add some tips for any razer abyssus owners out there.
First off if you hear a slight rattle sound when moving from side to side you can fix this by removing the plastic switches that toggle the dpi/frequency. I contacted razer support when I first received it and they said it was not normal and I sent for a replacement from amazon. Well same problem on this one TT, but atleast the fix is easy although this does mean to switch them you need to use something like a screwdriver but for me it was worth it to not have to hear the rattle sound.

As far as the blue led being always I just opened the mouse up and removed the LED entirely. It can be re-installed easily if I do change my mind.

TO dissemble the mouse there is a single screw in the center of the largest plastic slider on the south side of the bottom of the mouse, just peel off the slider (it will reattach easy, I've done it twice now) and unscrew the single screw. Then the top should just pull off. Just make sure everything is in place when you are ready to reassemble.

With these modifications the abyssus is perfect for me, 480dpi, 6/11 sensitivity setting, and fingertip grip.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 21 2012 05:02 GMT
#1662
On September 21 2012 10:36 Attsy wrote:
I would like to add some tips for any razer abyssus owners out there.
First off if you hear a slight rattle sound when moving from side to side you can fix this by removing the plastic switches that toggle the dpi/frequency. I contacted razer support when I first received it and they said it was not normal and I sent for a replacement from amazon. Well same problem on this one TT, but atleast the fix is easy although this does mean to switch them you need to use something like a screwdriver but for me it was worth it to not have to hear the rattle sound.

As far as the blue led being always I just opened the mouse up and removed the LED entirely. It can be re-installed easily if I do change my mind.

TO dissemble the mouse there is a single screw in the center of the largest plastic slider on the south side of the bottom of the mouse, just peel off the slider (it will reattach easy, I've done it twice now) and unscrew the single screw. Then the top should just pull off. Just make sure everything is in place when you are ready to reassemble.

With these modifications the abyssus is perfect for me, 480dpi, 6/11 sensitivity setting, and fingertip grip.

480dpi on an abyssus T.T

I've 2 salmosa and 2 abyssus. Decent except I get a terrible feeling of bottom left bias after a months on all of them. Maybe normal wear and tear? Also the build quality feels a little cheap imo compared to a deathadder.

But maybe I'm just being biased and all claw mice are like that because of their smaller size. G9x is arriving tomorrow in the mail though, so we'll see if it's any different.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 21 2012 09:02 GMT
#1663
On September 21 2012 14:02 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 10:36 Attsy wrote:
I would like to add some tips for any razer abyssus owners out there.
First off if you hear a slight rattle sound when moving from side to side you can fix this by removing the plastic switches that toggle the dpi/frequency. I contacted razer support when I first received it and they said it was not normal and I sent for a replacement from amazon. Well same problem on this one TT, but atleast the fix is easy although this does mean to switch them you need to use something like a screwdriver but for me it was worth it to not have to hear the rattle sound.

As far as the blue led being always I just opened the mouse up and removed the LED entirely. It can be re-installed easily if I do change my mind.

TO dissemble the mouse there is a single screw in the center of the largest plastic slider on the south side of the bottom of the mouse, just peel off the slider (it will reattach easy, I've done it twice now) and unscrew the single screw. Then the top should just pull off. Just make sure everything is in place when you are ready to reassemble.

With these modifications the abyssus is perfect for me, 480dpi, 6/11 sensitivity setting, and fingertip grip.

480dpi on an abyssus T.T

I've 2 salmosa and 2 abyssus. Decent except I get a terrible feeling of bottom left bias after a months on all of them. Maybe normal wear and tear? Also the build quality feels a little cheap imo compared to a deathadder.

But maybe I'm just being biased and all claw mice are like that because of their smaller size. G9x is arriving tomorrow in the mail though, so we'll see if it's any different.


Nothing wrong with using low DPI, especially if you play a lot of FPS games. G9x is awesome, but you might not find the shells provided to your liking. Try using it without any shell whatsoever and see how that works out for you. Personally i think it's the best mouse i've ever owned and i was to buy a new mouse it'd be another G9x.
kilos
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden11 Posts
September 21 2012 18:14 GMT
#1664
[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with using low DPI, especially if you play a lot of FPS games. G9x is awesome, but you might not find the shells provided to your liking. Try using it without any shell whatsoever and see how that works out for you. Personally i think it's the best mouse i've ever owned and i was to buy a new mouse it'd be another G9x.[/QUOTE]


I have the g9x and its great. But it has 2 flaws...

1: the sensor has a little built in acceleration. Which sucks since if you move fast you always overshoot a little and then correct it afterwards.. Its only like 5% acceleration or so but anyway..

2: The middle mouse button is hard as hell to press down..

Regarding the sensor it cant be fixed by logitech its just how it is with that sensor.. Ofcourse you can minimize accel problem by setting everything up correctly 6/11 in windows, remove accel.. and 5 in setpoint and accel 0.. but still you cant get rid of acccel completley

If these two flaws wouldnt exist it would be a very good mouse. Build quality is great and alot of functions.

I give it 8/10 rating.
kill619
Profile Joined December 2011
United States212 Posts
September 21 2012 20:14 GMT
#1665
Just bought the Logitech g400 and having the weirdest problem with it. I previously used the abyssus and had no problems splitting/spreading units where I have to use both mouse buttons in quick succession but if i try to do the same thing with the g400 it feels like the mouse has some delay between how quickly you can use one button after the other. For example, with the g400 if I box some marines and quickly try to give a move command nothing happens but if I try the exact same thing with the abyssus it works just fine. Anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it?
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
September 21 2012 21:22 GMT
#1666
Nope, didn't have that problem with the G400 at all. Do you use drivers? Could you try completely removing them or just plugging the mouse in another comp to see whether this is a software or hardware issue?
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Attsy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States30 Posts
September 21 2012 22:29 GMT
#1667
On September 21 2012 14:02 EtherealDeath wrote:
480dpi on an abyssus T.T

I've 2 salmosa and 2 abyssus. Decent except I get a terrible feeling of bottom left bias after a months on all of them. Maybe normal wear and tear? Also the build quality feels a little cheap imo compared to a deathadder.

But maybe I'm just being biased and all claw mice are like that because of their smaller size. G9x is arriving tomorrow in the mail though, so we'll see if it's any different.

Yeah I find 480 perfect for rts, 1080 is what I used to use but its just a little too twitchy for me. Once you get used to moving your hand more it feels a lot better.
wcr.4fun
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 21:38:39
September 22 2012 21:38 GMT
#1668
Hey I was going to buy a razer deathadder, my old razer habu has had the double click problem for a long time now and I'm gotten too frustrated with it.

Can anyone explain to me why I can find the razer deathadder for only 48 dollars (new) on amazone while on razer's site it costs 60 dollars?
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 21:47:03
September 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#1669
1) There are many versions of the Deathadder.

2) Most of the time manufacturers have to sell on their website at the same price as physical retailers, otherwise those refuse to put the products on their shelves.

is my humble guess.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
kill619
Profile Joined December 2011
United States212 Posts
September 23 2012 04:50 GMT
#1670
On September 22 2012 06:22 Demicore wrote:
Nope, didn't have that problem with the G400 at all. Do you use drivers? Could you try completely removing them or just plugging the mouse in another comp to see whether this is a software or hardware issue?



With or without drivers I still can't click one mouse button right after the other without the second one I hit not registering.

I tried it first with drivers but at this point I don't have the drivers installed and I can't get past level 10 on Darlenger's(?) Micro trainer for splitting marines where as I can reach lvl 26 using any of my other mice. To even get that far I have to purposly split very slowly and carefully just to make sure the mouse keeps up -_-
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
September 23 2012 06:37 GMT
#1671
The g9x is very nice. Good control, size and feel for me ^^; I agree with kilos on the 2 flaws though.
|Terran|
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
September 23 2012 21:15 GMT
#1672
On September 23 2012 13:50 kill619 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 06:22 Demicore wrote:
Nope, didn't have that problem with the G400 at all. Do you use drivers? Could you try completely removing them or just plugging the mouse in another comp to see whether this is a software or hardware issue?



With or without drivers I still can't click one mouse button right after the other without the second one I hit not registering.

I tried it first with drivers but at this point I don't have the drivers installed and I can't get past level 10 on Darlenger's(?) Micro trainer for splitting marines where as I can reach lvl 26 using any of my other mice. To even get that far I have to purposly split very slowly and carefully just to make sure the mouse keeps up -_-


I think you should get a replacement then; I haven't used my G400 a lot but I think I would remember if it did that. (sold it since; can't test)
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-24 09:46:54
September 24 2012 09:44 GMT
#1673
On September 22 2012 03:14 kilos wrote:
Nothing wrong with using low DPI, especially if you play a lot of FPS games. G9x is awesome, but you might not find the shells provided to your liking. Try using it without any shell whatsoever and see how that works out for you. Personally i think it's the best mouse i've ever owned and i was to buy a new mouse it'd be another G9x.



I have the g9x and its great. But it has 2 flaws...

1: the sensor has a little built in acceleration. Which sucks since if you move fast you always overshoot a little and then correct it afterwards.. Its only like 5% acceleration or so but anyway..

2: The middle mouse button is hard as hell to press down..

Regarding the sensor it cant be fixed by logitech its just how it is with that sensor.. Ofcourse you can minimize accel problem by setting everything up correctly 6/11 in windows, remove accel.. and 5 in setpoint and accel 0.. but still you cant get rid of acccel completley

If these two flaws wouldnt exist it would be a very good mouse. Build quality is great and alot of functions.

I give it 8/10 rating.


I never actually noticed the acceleration, so i don't really mind it that much. Also i have a work-around for the middle mouse button, i personally don't like tilting the mouse wheel to the left and right to scroll sideways so i rebound those two. To the right to me is now play/pause, and to the left is now middle mouse button. To me it didn't take that long to get used to, and it makes it far easier to press mouse 3.

Also aside from these things i agree it's a great mouse. It feels rock solid and just the quality of the parts overall is absolutely great. Such a satisfying clicking sound when you press the mouse buttons compared to my old Ikari...
XxVeZZxX
Profile Joined March 2012
United States12 Posts
September 26 2012 05:43 GMT
#1674
1. What's your grip style?
Right now i am using a small logitech mouse so I claw but I dont mind hybrid.
2. What's your sensitivity?
High
3. What's your maximum budget?
$150
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Yes
5. What games do you play?
LoL, Sc2, CS-Go, GW2, Borderlands 2, Dayz, Dota2, WoW
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Dont know what that is.
7. Other relevant information:
I have carpel tunel in my right hand/arm so I need a mouse that will not cause me so much pain.
Balls Deep
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 26 2012 06:50 GMT
#1675
On September 26 2012 14:43 XxVeZZxX wrote:
1. What's your grip style?
Right now i am using a small logitech mouse so I claw but I dont mind hybrid.
2. What's your sensitivity?
High
3. What's your maximum budget?
$150
4. Do you want additional buttons?
Yes
5. What games do you play?
LoL, Sc2, CS-Go, GW2, Borderlands 2, Dayz, Dota2, WoW
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Dont know what that is.
7. Other relevant information:
I have carpel tunel in my right hand/arm so I need a mouse that will not cause me so much pain.


This is a rather open list, so I'm just going to recommend a steelseries sensei, or a raw version if you want to save some cash or dont need the extra features. If you want a smaller mouse similar to what you have been using, try a kana instead. I have had issues with my wrist in the past also, and I find the form of this mouse shape to be good for that. You could also try a G9 without a shell.

Another thing I have found that has helped my wrist is to get a thick mouse pad. Here I would reccomend the steelseries Mass pad (extra thick). Its going to sound like im a steelseries rep, but honestly I think they have the mouse/pad department nailed at the moment.

Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 26 2012 10:53 GMT
#1676
anyone seeing MKPs mouse right now, looks so badass. I think its a new purple Tt esports one.
XxVeZZxX
Profile Joined March 2012
United States12 Posts
September 26 2012 20:17 GMT
#1677
I have looked into the Steel Series mouses and i have not liked the shape of them especially with my hand but I saw the Cyborg mouse and I like that I can customize it to my hand. Is it a good mouse?
Balls Deep
Wartortle
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia504 Posts
September 27 2012 00:56 GMT
#1678
On September 27 2012 05:17 XxVeZZxX wrote:
I have looked into the Steel Series mouses and i have not liked the shape of them especially with my hand but I saw the Cyborg mouse and I like that I can customize it to my hand. Is it a good mouse?


yeah that's fair enough. the Rat mouses are pretty good. I had one for a few months but ended up not particularly liking the sensor, I think mine was a 7. some others perhaps can comment on the sensor? mine seemed very jittery. the mouse was fairly comfortable but I think I have preferred others with a more uniform body.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 03:28:27
September 28 2012 12:18 GMT
#1679
I have a g400 with a defective wire. It's obviously still within the warranty date but I no longer have the receipt or packaging. Am I just screwed or can I do something with logitech still?
edit : After I gave them the product name and product id, they asked for my address and are shipping me a new g400. Apparently it's a common problem. Hopefully the new one won't have angle snapping
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 28 2012 12:34 GMT
#1680
On September 26 2012 19:53 Wartortle wrote:
anyone seeing MKPs mouse right now, looks so badass. I think its a new purple Tt esports one.


No, it's definitely a repainted shell-less G9x.
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