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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
April 15 2014 13:05 GMT
#3181
Don't use 5/11 silly, it's an inconsistent step. either 6/11, or 4/11-lower are fine.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 13:48:13
April 15 2014 13:23 GMT
#3182
On April 15 2014 21:53 Ropid wrote:
5/11 feels a bit suspicious to me when testing it in Paint. I guess you should just try it out in some actual use like your Osu stuff?

5/11 is a 75% factor and I don't know what Windows does to apply that to the actual coordinates the mouse is sending. What does it do when the mouse sends a bunch of +2 coordinates for example? 50% of those should stay +2 and 50% should be turned into +1. I wonder if the guy that wrote the code wanted to do things perfect or not.



On April 15 2014 22:05 wo1fwood wrote:
Don't use 5/11 silly, it's an inconsistent step. either 6/11, or 4/11-lower are fine.


Yea i'm aware of it being like this, normally i'd adjust using direct multiples of 1 (1/2, 1/4, 1/8'th or maybe, maybe, for cases like 400dpi intellimouse on 1920x1080 - 2x) but i'm kinda stuck here with xornet sensor

500/1000/2000dpi, with 1000 step working best, IIRC. 500 is very low to be using for fast cross-screens and changes in direction etc, while 1k is too fast for my tastes. I've been wondering if it's worth it to use the 5/11 step though for 0.75x on 1k. It doesn't seem as evil as 7/11+

To be honest it'd take a week to rebuild muscle memory, if i didn't like it, i'd be "off" for like 4-10 days switching to and from. 1k dpi though.. eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh i don't know how people use that much sens, it's definitely at the level of noticeably losing accuracy
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 13:57:06
April 15 2014 13:56 GMT
#3183
You could buy that 1440p 120Hz ASUS monitor for $800 and get your 75% factor through the higher resolution!
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
April 15 2014 14:13 GMT
#3184
On April 15 2014 22:56 Ropid wrote:
You could buy that 1440p 120Hz ASUS monitor for $800 and get your 75% factor through the higher resolution!


vg248qe cost £275 here when it was $260 in the US.

If that kind of difference holds up, then that $800 will turn into £845 which is the equivalent of ~$1415. I'd need a job..

£550 after VAT is plausible, but then again so is £850. That kinda hurts. I'm almost certainly gonna grab a high end gpu in the next 2-4 quarters and do something with this 770, but i can't really afford an £800 screen or flipping cpu's/gpu's every gen without some serious income
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 15:48:35
April 15 2014 15:48 GMT
#3185
Wanna sell me your 770? I can use it with my 770
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Gromo
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland49 Posts
April 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#3186
So, my Steelseries Xai died, doubleclick on left button. CCould you recommend me some good mouse?

1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip
2. What's your sensitivity?
Right now: Steelseries Xai 1600 DPI (Windows settings: 6/11)
3. What's your maximum budget?
around 100€ max
4. Do you want additional buttons?
1-2 additional buttons are fine, but it's not necessary.
5. What games do you play?
Everything what gives me fun. I like almost all genres. M<ostly i play brood war/starcraft 2 and some good old games.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
I do not know what you mean. I had Kinzu v1 and Xai andboth mouse was nice.
7. Others:
I like ambidexterous mouse. Small or medium sized. Xai/Kinzu are well shaped for me. My hand love this shape. I am looking mainly for a steelseries mouce buyt i will consider and look at every proposal.
And sorry for my bad english.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 15 2014 19:17 GMT
#3187
I guess you should buy a Steelseries Kana V2.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
April 15 2014 19:27 GMT
#3188
My Xai died a couple months ago (same double click problem, second SS mouse that has had this problem after about ~2 years of use), and I replaced it with a Zowie AM. I highly recommend it, it's been a great replacement for the Xai. I think it is slightly larger than the Xai though, and isn't quite as flashy as the Xai (no LCD screen, less feature adjustment etc), but I've been more than happy with it.
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
Gromo
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland49 Posts
April 15 2014 20:33 GMT
#3189
Ropid what can you say about steelseries sensei raw? I think now about 2 mices:
sensei raw
kana v2

Which will be better on QcK mousepad? 9hd or another plastic mousepad is too expensive for me, when i must buy a new mice.
For the Swarm!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
April 15 2014 20:39 GMT
#3190
On April 16 2014 00:48 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Wanna sell me your 770? I can use it with my 770


Hardware costs are ridiculous in UK vs US and even canada, i don't think you guys were ever paying 625 cad for a 770, even selling used here there's no way i wouldn't take like a 66% loss if i just dropped it on the market after a year and a few months from launch. It's silly, so i'm probably going to drop it in a complete system with CPU that i already have and price gouge that a little, cause cards going used for half of MSRP after 8 months while we're still on the same gen is terrifying
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
April 15 2014 21:02 GMT
#3191
On April 16 2014 05:33 Gromo wrote:
Ropid what can you say about steelseries sensei raw? I think now about 2 mices:
sensei raw
kana v2

Which will be better on QcK mousepad? 9hd or another plastic mousepad is too expensive for me, when i must buy a new mice.



I currently have a Sensei, and the only thing different I think is the coat and the fact that it's less expensive and has less features. As to whether to go for normal vs. raw, definitely go raw. I've had the normal version for 1.5 years now and most of the features are kind of a gimmick. Actually making faults in a sensor an ''option'' like lifting and neg/positive acceleration. But the mouse feels really nice as in the size (because raw will have a different coating, I can't talk about that) if you have medium/large hands. I use a claw grip and it's very nice. Not the most comfortable but it feels good. The mouse feels responsive aswell, and I hear of people complaining about touching the right sidebuttons a lot on accident - I never have a problem with that, but I do have pretty thin fingers. As I've posted and asked about in this thread, there is a slight acceleration issue that I'm sure also applies to the raw version. I don't think it's gigantic, but if you want a perfect sensor, this mouse is a pass (which is why I might switch to a different mouse soon.)
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Gromo
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland49 Posts
April 16 2014 16:52 GMT
#3192
Are known any technical issues with kana v2 or sensei raw? Like sensor problems, high frequency of failure. Like doubleclicks, problems with mouse wheel. You know, i want really harsd to kill mouse. My kinzu and xai died because of doubleclick and i do not want to buy senser raw or kana v2 and complaint it few weeks later.
For the Swarm!
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 17:06:06
April 16 2014 17:05 GMT
#3193
On April 17 2014 01:52 Gromo wrote:
Are known any technical issues with kana v2 or sensei raw? Like sensor problems, high frequency of failure. Like doubleclicks, problems with mouse wheel. You know, i want really harsd to kill mouse. My kinzu and xai died because of doubleclick and i do not want to buy senser raw or kana v2 and complaint it few weeks later.

Well, as said, I've owned the usual Sensei for about 1.5 years now and apart from an (apparently) bios error I had, I've never had any trouble with it that isn't intended. Took me a couple of hours to a day to get used to playing at high APM, but except that I've never had any trouble. The time I did ask for customer support, it was actually quite good. Again, it isn't a RAW though, but I imagine it's pretty much the same.
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Gromo
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland49 Posts
April 16 2014 17:11 GMT
#3194
I read something about loud and cheap mousewheel on sensei raw so i;m scared about it. I do not want to buy expensive crap which uses name of sansei, which was a great mouse.
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Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
April 16 2014 18:01 GMT
#3195
If you like the shape you should go with the kana v2 which has a similar one and a better sensor, all the reviews I read about it were good.
Gromo
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland49 Posts
April 16 2014 19:08 GMT
#3196
Finally i choose Kana v2. I didn't found any topic about issues or technical problems in this mouse. Sensei raw has issues with mouse wheel and more. I think it was good choice. After delivery i will tell you what i think about it.
For the Swarm!
kinsky
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 20:19:21
April 16 2014 20:15 GMT
#3197
On April 17 2014 04:08 Gromo wrote:
Finally i choose Kana v2. I didn't found any topic about issues or technical problems in this mouse. Sensei raw has issues with mouse wheel and more. I think it was good choice. After delivery i will tell you what i think about it.



You are aware of the fact, that there is only one side button at each mouse side (instead of having 2 buttons at one side), are you?! I bought a kana too and was totally shocked when I realised it. Sent it back immediately.

edit: bracket, typo
Gromo
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland49 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 09:57:02
April 17 2014 09:54 GMT
#3198
This is no problem for me. Usualy i used only 1 left side bhtton in xai. When i needed more i used second but it war very rare situation. Side buttons in kana are so big so i think i wont have problems with using this button on right side.

I am onli little scared because i read 1 topic in the internet. Some1 plugged in moiluse and tried to install engin or update it. Instalation stopped at 15%. He send back the mice. When i wqnt to find this topic again i cant so i guess it ia very rare problem.
For the Swarm!
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
April 17 2014 11:11 GMT
#3199
I had some issues with the steelseries engine when I had a sensei too, it detected shit that didn't exist and it crashed the installer, and it also crashed if I left it running when playing games that had a "use raw input" setting. But as long as you can install it and choose your dpi, which you should, it'll be fine.
entranced
Profile Joined October 2010
United States5 Posts
April 17 2014 17:20 GMT
#3200
so i just replaced my 2 year old Zowie AM with another one because my old one died, but this new one is giving me issues on the same exact surface / mouse settings that i was using before - steelseries qck / 6/11 windows sens, 1150 dpi on the mouse.

whenever i'm moving the mouse straight up or down, i get a bit of stutter to the left or right no matter how smooth i move it. if i use a different mouse pad, it seems to work fine. any reason why the same mouse wouldnt work on the same setup? did i get a bad one?
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