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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20324 Posts
November 16 2013 23:00 GMT
#2821
It doesn't touch my sens, if it's like sc2 then messing with the ingame slider will change your windows sens.

Lesson is: Don't mess with ingame sens sliders
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
blazekun
Profile Joined November 2013
8 Posts
November 17 2013 16:59 GMT
#2822
Okay, another question.

Any good medium-size mouse pads to go with the Zowie AM? I currently have a very worn out, small size Steelseries Qck.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20324 Posts
November 17 2013 18:52 GMT
#2823
My qck+ (45x40cm) is not worn out after a couple years of very heavy usage, they're quite easily to clean with a damp cloth (i use warm, dunno if it matters) and many cloth pads are machine washable i've heard quite a few times (though not tried myself)

As for which pad to get, i dunno the sensor, but considering they are so cheap i'd say get bigger unless you have a reason not to (helps for fps and for positioning arm to use lower sens on non-fps enviroments where you're using a small fraction of the pad instead of most of it)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
yaeger
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway98 Posts
November 18 2013 00:25 GMT
#2824
Hello!

I think i want a new mouse =)

Sensei Raw : specs

Witdh 6.83 cm
Depth 12.55 cm
Height 3.87 cm
Weight 90 g


I have big hands (and im a leftie) I used a Microsoft intelli 3.0 for like 10 yrs( crazy yes? using a left hand on a right hand mouse) I finally changed to a deathadder(it was good but i think I started having pain in my hands about the same time, and dont know if it correlates)

Now i use the Sensei raw with specs above.
Ive tried the CMS Storm - its rly nice to hold and fits well into my hand, but the sensor is crap.

So do you guys know of a ambidextrous mouse for me to try?
Kind regards!
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 18 2013 00:37 GMT
#2825
Did you use the left-handed Deathadder or the right-handed Deathadder?

Which CM Storm mouse did you try? What you mentioned is the brand name.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
yaeger
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway98 Posts
November 18 2013 00:42 GMT
#2826
sorry, ye, I tried lefthanded version, The CM Storm mouse was the Recon.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 18 2013 00:56 GMT
#2827
Why was the sensor crap? Do you want to use high dpi or was it also crap at something like 1600dpi or less?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
yaeger
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway98 Posts
November 18 2013 00:59 GMT
#2828
i used 1600 dpi i think, and the sensor often bugged out? like didnt respond correctly. It seemed like the lift distance was to low as well(compared to the sensei) i had the latest drivers and even tried firmware update.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-18 01:19:58
November 18 2013 01:19 GMT
#2829
That might have been the sensor not working right on your mouse pad. Or that low lift distance you mentioned might not have worked well with the way you move a mouse. I also often lift the mouse a little when moving it around and wouldn't want to have low lift distance.

If it would have been you using 3200dpi or something, I'd have suggested to look for a laser mouse instead of optical.

I have serious problems thinking of a large mouse that I'd want to recommend that's ambidextrous.

Perhaps try to see if you can guess a reason for the pain with the left-handed Deathadder? There might be something you can change easily about how you sit or something.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
November 18 2013 08:44 GMT
#2830
On November 18 2013 09:25 yaeger wrote:
Hello!

I think i want a new mouse =)

Sensei Raw : specs

Witdh 6.83 cm
Depth 12.55 cm
Height 3.87 cm
Weight 90 g


I have big hands (and im a leftie) I used a Microsoft intelli 3.0 for like 10 yrs( crazy yes? using a left hand on a right hand mouse) I finally changed to a deathadder(it was good but i think I started having pain in my hands about the same time, and dont know if it correlates)

Now i use the Sensei raw with specs above.
Ive tried the CMS Storm - its rly nice to hold and fits well into my hand, but the sensor is crap.

So do you guys know of a ambidextrous mouse for me to try?
Kind regards!


Maybe try the Razer Abyssus?
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TonkaBean
Profile Joined January 2013
Lithuania7 Posts
November 19 2013 12:25 GMT
#2831
Just bought Logitech g100s. Satisfied so far, mouse wheel could be better tho. Awesome mouse overall.
btlVega
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany53 Posts
November 19 2013 22:15 GMT
#2832
Why so much hate about razer? I have my copperhead since 2005. Only thing that doesnt work perfect anymore is the wheel.
Guess I´m lucky. Anyway since the surface of my copperhead is getting a bit used I´m considering the Rat7. I really like the adjustable chassis. Is the the sensor really not good? Thanks for any response.
Bitches know me, I'm Jos 'LiquidRet' de Kroon. I drink, smoke and don't exercize.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 19 2013 22:25 GMT
#2833
I don't like the price of the RAT7.

I heard that the Philips-Twin-Eye (PTE) sensor is very sensitive about what surface you use it on. That might have skewed people's opinion about it. Some people say it's actually working excellent.

I don't know what the best surface for it is, only that it should be something in a single color.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
November 20 2013 03:18 GMT
#2834
I bought the Razer Deathadder a couple days ago and I love it so far.
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
November 20 2013 23:38 GMT
#2835
After reading OP I'm still unsure exactly how dpi and sensitivity work together. I just bought a new mouse with 3 dpi settings (zowie ec1 evo). The 1150 dpi setting is pretty good for normal desktop use but since BW is played in 640x480 even the lowest dpi setting of 450 dpi is a little too fast for me.

I'm wondering what happens when you lower (as opposed to increase) sensitivity in windows or in game, does that reduce accuracy too? Some people say you should use max dpi and then lower sensitivity to get the best accuracy idk if that's true. Also, people say to use 6/11 windows sensitivity but what about in-game in games like counter strike that have sliders?
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20324 Posts
November 20 2013 23:58 GMT
#2836
After reading OP I'm still unsure exactly how dpi and sensitivity work together. I just bought a new mouse with 3 dpi settings (zowie ec1 evo). The 1150 dpi setting is pretty good for normal desktop use but since BW is played in 640x480 even the lowest dpi setting of 450 dpi is a little too fast for me.


DPI = Sensitivity.

FPS engines like counterstrike work in different ways to other stuff, because you're dealing with 3d rotation and angles, not pixels.

If your desktop is 1280x960 for example, it'll take twice as much DPI to cross the same amount of physical distance as brood war would at fullscreen 640x480 (half as many pixels across)

You can try putting windows sens on 4/11 instead of 6/11 while you're playing brood war, or even 3/11 i think, if you have no other way of controlling sens

The logic of using the maximum possible DPI and then scaling down with sens is quite good, until you realize that by scaling down you are throwing away a lot of data, making tracking somewhat inconsistent on a small level, and then the main thing - if 1000dpi is the sens you want, and you're using 1000dpi - you're already at the maximum accuracy level. 1 pixel per count, you can't track any smaller distance
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 00:04:27
November 21 2013 00:03 GMT
#2837
On November 21 2013 08:38 L3gendary wrote:
After reading OP I'm still unsure exactly how dpi and sensitivity work together. I just bought a new mouse with 3 dpi settings (zowie ec1 evo). The 1150 dpi setting is pretty good for normal desktop use but since BW is played in 640x480 even the lowest dpi setting of 450 dpi is a little too fast for me.

I'm wondering what happens when you lower (as opposed to increase) sensitivity in windows or in game, does that reduce accuracy too? Some people say you should use max dpi and then lower sensitivity to get the best accuracy idk if that's true. Also, people say to use 6/11 windows sensitivity but what about in-game in games like counter strike that have sliders?

No, it does not reduce accuracy and works fine. The only one that's a bit weird is the 5/11 position (one to the left from the middle 6/11). That one is 75%. All others work perfect.

4/11 will do 50%. Windows will simply divide by two.
3/11 will do 25%. It divides by four.

From what I heard about your mouse, if you put it to its max 2300 dpi setting, it will work best, disable some kind of processing in the mouse that it has to do for the 450 dpi setting, etc. Some people say they can feel the mouse having less latency.

So you might want to set the mouse to 2300 dpi and then use the Windows mouse pointer speed slider to reduce that 2300 dpi on the desktop to something that is comfortable for you.

A lot of games use the raw input data of the mouse. Those will ignore the Windows mouse pointer speed slider. In that case, you will just have to reduce mouse sensitivity in the game's settings. Using the mouse on 2300 dpi might mean that you'll be able to move the crosshair in finer steps in an FPS game if your sensitivity is high enough that you see it jump in steps when aiming.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
November 21 2013 00:47 GMT
#2838
On November 20 2013 07:25 Ropid wrote:
I don't like the price of the RAT7.

I heard that the Philips-Twin-Eye (PTE) sensor is very sensitive about what surface you use it on. That might have skewed people's opinion about it. Some people say it's actually working excellent.

I don't know what the best surface for it is, only that it should be something in a single color.


Single color, preferrably a hard mat. I tried using a PTE mouse on a soft mat and the cursor jitters when you click.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
B_Type13X2
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada122 Posts
November 21 2013 10:05 GMT
#2839
On November 20 2013 07:15 btlVega wrote:
Why so much hate about razer? I have my copperhead since 2005. Only thing that doesnt work perfect anymore is the wheel.
Guess I´m lucky. Anyway since the surface of my copperhead is getting a bit used I´m considering the Rat7. I really like the adjustable chassis. Is the the sensor really not good? Thanks for any response.


My dislike of Razer comes from spending over a grand in 24 months on their peripherals and only having a functioning mousepad at the end of it. But my Diamondback purchased in about 2006ish still works on my dads laptop. You can't judge Razer on how they were back then, because their quality was good back then. Now we have fancy looking hardware with quality control issues. Right now I'm using a Rat 7, its a good mouse if not abit gimmicky, there are better mice out there for-sure that cost less, but this was a gift and it works so I'll use it until it doesn't.
Half the fun of the internet is untwisting the 20 layers of BS around everything
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 16:27:58
November 21 2013 16:05 GMT
#2840
Thanks guys, so basically there's nothing special about windows sensitivity if I'm understanding correctly? 75%-90% of my current speed would be perfect so if were to use the settings in chaos launcher or mcalauncher for BW and then set the value there or say in SC2 set it to around 40%, it's really no different than setting 5/11 in windows? So theres no ideal way to set sensitivity without scaling by whole numbers?
edit: Actually, if I could divide by 3 that would be perfect. I could use 1150/3 or 2300/6 but there's no such option tt
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