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Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
May 20 2011 00:50 GMT
#261
SlayerS_MMA uses a Deathadder but not sure which mat and keyboard he uses though.
Cake or Death?
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
May 24 2011 05:26 GMT
#262
MMA uses the razer marauder like most of the members of SlayerS since razer is one of their main sponsors
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 12:23:09
May 26 2011 10:17 GMT
#263
nvm
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Auu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States9 Posts
May 27 2011 05:59 GMT
#264
I'm a hardcore fps gamer for years and I've gone through so many mice. G9x is the best mouse ever. It's better than the G9, G500, G5, MX518, Intellimouse Explorer 3, etc, etc that I used before that. When I got the G5 back in 2006, that was orders of magnitude better than any mouse that preceded it. The G9x is better than G5 but not by a huge amount. I use every last bit of the 5700dpi. I turn the hardware dpi up all the way and leave the software mouse sensitivity settings on the defaults to prevent aliasing. From one end of the screen to the other is less than an inch of mouse movement, so I never have to pick up my wrist.

For keyboards, I've been using the G15 for a long time. It's way better than all the other keyboards I used before that. I never had problems with aliasing or blocking on the G15. The shape and comfort is great. I don't even use any macro keys. It's better than all the other keyboards solely on account of the shape, comfort, and feel of the keys. It does get pretty filthy after a while, and cleaning it is hard so I end up just replacing it every year and a half.

I tried a Filco Majestouch with black switches. I hated it because the amount of force required to depress the keys is excessive and leads to RSI. I was also thinking about trying the TT MEKA G1 (because it's the only keyboard advertising both 1000hz polling rate and nkro) until I read that it uses the same black switches. Black switches are too freaking stiff.

A little bit of theorycraft: It takes time for your muscle to build up force. The greater the force required to press a key, the longer it will take you to press the key. The greater the movement distance required to press a key, the longer it will take you to do it. That's the same principle that favors using really high DPI mice for FPS. What I really want is a slim NKRO keyboard with springs that are barely strong enough to keep my resting hands from accidentally pressing keys.
ryan1894
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia264 Posts
May 27 2011 11:33 GMT
#265
On May 27 2011 14:59 Auu wrote:
I'm a hardcore fps gamer for years and I've gone through so many mice. G9x is the best mouse ever. It's better than the G9, G500, G5, MX518, Intellimouse Explorer 3, etc, etc that I used before that. When I got the G5 back in 2006, that was orders of magnitude better than any mouse that preceded it. The G9x is better than G5 but not by a huge amount. I use every last bit of the 5700dpi. I turn the hardware dpi up all the way and leave the software mouse sensitivity settings on the defaults to prevent aliasing. From one end of the screen to the other is less than an inch of mouse movement, so I never have to pick up my wrist.

For keyboards, I've been using the G15 for a long time. It's way better than all the other keyboards I used before that. I never had problems with aliasing or blocking on the G15. The shape and comfort is great. I don't even use any macro keys. It's better than all the other keyboards solely on account of the shape, comfort, and feel of the keys. It does get pretty filthy after a while, and cleaning it is hard so I end up just replacing it every year and a half.

I tried a Filco Majestouch with black switches. I hated it because the amount of force required to depress the keys is excessive and leads to RSI. I was also thinking about trying the TT MEKA G1 (because it's the only keyboard advertising both 1000hz polling rate and nkro) until I read that it uses the same black switches. Black switches are too freaking stiff.

A little bit of theorycraft: It takes time for your muscle to build up force. The greater the force required to press a key, the longer it will take you to press the key. The greater the movement distance required to press a key, the longer it will take you to do it. That's the same principle that favors using really high DPI mice for FPS. What I really want is a slim NKRO keyboard with springs that are barely strong enough to keep my resting hands from accidentally pressing keys.


If you were truly an FPS hardcore gamer wouldn't you be worried about:

1) G9x's high LOD.
2) G9x's non-centred sensor?
3) G15 is an extremely bad keyboard. I had a G15v2, and even compared to this cheaper Sidewinder X6 that actually does have keyblocks - X6 has a proper volume knob, media keys that dont take 80g of force to depress and has much better key feel.
4) 1000Hz vs 125Hz is not that much of a difference. Its 1ms (theoretically) to 8ms (theoretically) but you have to take into account Keyboard Lag (8ms) + CPU Lag (20ms) + GPU Time (15ms at 60FPS) + Frame Transmission (16.67ms) + Double Buffering Lag (14.67ms) + LCD Response Time (12ms). Relatively, 7ms difference on 1000Hz vs 125Hz is absolutely nothing, especially when 1000Hz increases CPU load unnecessarily.
5) I'm pretty sure RSI has nothing to do with High DPI/Sensitivity, in fact it would be more believable if Low Sensitivity DECREASED chance of RSI because with High DPI, less physical movement for more cursor movement, making even large differences in cursor movement be extremely small physical movements, making each movement extremely similar to each other. With low sensitivity, one uses the arm and shoulder to control aim, while also reducing the side effect of jittery hands, making each movement have a larger relative difference to each other, reducing the "repetitiveness" of each action, reducing RSI.
6) All PS/2 Keyboards are NKRO. Its not very hard to find a NKRO keyboard, and since I explained earlier that 1000Hz makes pretty much zero difference.
7) You probably played an FPS game that requires zero aiming skill to play. e.g. CoD6/5/4 or Battlefield 2/2142/BC2
All professional/good Quake, CS1.6 players use low sensitivity, because they are games where aim is rewarded heavily, and thus needed. CoD4 is just MP5 + left click = airstrike.
I was a heavy FPS player before SC2 (CoD4/6, CS:S etc), but seriously, all FPS games require no skill apart from some old school FPS like Quake/CS1.6...
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
May 27 2011 11:54 GMT
#266
On May 27 2011 14:59 Auu wrote:
I'm a hardcore fps gamer for years and I've gone through so many mice. G9x is the best mouse ever. It's better than the G9, G500, G5, MX518, Intellimouse Explorer 3, etc, etc that I used before that. When I got the G5 back in 2006, that was orders of magnitude better than any mouse that preceded it. The G9x is better than G5 but not by a huge amount. I use every last bit of the 5700dpi. I turn the hardware dpi up all the way and leave the software mouse sensitivity settings on the defaults to prevent aliasing. From one end of the screen to the other is less than an inch of mouse movement, so I never have to pick up my wrist.

For keyboards, I've been using the G15 for a long time. It's way better than all the other keyboards I used before that. I never had problems with aliasing or blocking on the G15. The shape and comfort is great. I don't even use any macro keys. It's better than all the other keyboards solely on account of the shape, comfort, and feel of the keys. It does get pretty filthy after a while, and cleaning it is hard so I end up just replacing it every year and a half.

I tried a Filco Majestouch with black switches. I hated it because the amount of force required to depress the keys is excessive and leads to RSI. I was also thinking about trying the TT MEKA G1 (because it's the only keyboard advertising both 1000hz polling rate and nkro) until I read that it uses the same black switches. Black switches are too freaking stiff.

A little bit of theorycraft: It takes time for your muscle to build up force. The greater the force required to press a key, the longer it will take you to press the key. The greater the movement distance required to press a key, the longer it will take you to do it. That's the same principle that favors using really high DPI mice for FPS. What I really want is a slim NKRO keyboard with springs that are barely strong enough to keep my resting hands from accidentally pressing keys.


theres a little misconception regarding the the switches on the 6gv2/7g, while the black switches do require a fair amount of force to push all the way down, it takes virtually no force for the keys to actually register hits, once you get used to it you can just fly across the keyboard without bottoming out at all, and its a lot faster to type and play on it. of course you can just hammer on the keys as well, and your fingers gets used to the action anyway.
did you read the script?
ginywiny
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada37 Posts
May 29 2011 05:45 GMT
#267
wat about artosis?
Does he look like a bItch?
stOrpse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States175 Posts
May 29 2011 14:41 GMT
#268
I'm surprised that Ret switched from Logitech Mini and Qsenn DT35.

I recall a thread a few years back of him saying he couldn't use anything else.
Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
May 29 2011 14:48 GMT
#269
On May 29 2011 14:45 ginywiny wrote:
wat about artosis?


Artosis uses a Salmosa (or an Abyssus, can't remember exactly which) and a High-end Korean Mechanical keyboard, that he has yet to tell us the name of.
Sometimes you have to play a long time to be able to play like yourself. - Miles Davis
ginywiny
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada37 Posts
May 30 2011 01:40 GMT
#270
On May 29 2011 23:48 CampinSam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 14:45 ginywiny wrote:
wat about artosis?


Artosis uses a Salmosa (or an Abyssus, can't remember exactly which) and a High-end Korean Mechanical keyboard, that he has yet to tell us the name of.


i thought he used a qsenn dt 35
Does he look like a bItch?
ginywiny
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada37 Posts
June 03 2011 01:02 GMT
#271
im pretty sure IdrA doesnt use a steelseries qck mousepad
Does he look like a bItch?
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5493 Posts
June 03 2011 01:06 GMT
#272
someone at mlg check
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
TAStarScream
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia15 Posts
June 03 2011 01:07 GMT
#273
On June 03 2011 10:02 ginywiny wrote:
im pretty sure IdrA doesnt use a steelseries qck mousepad

IdrA uses a cut down verison of a SS QCK
Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
June 04 2011 17:16 GMT
#274
well mlg is out so some1 just snap a shit load of photos of the pros and will no for sure!
ginywiny
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada37 Posts
June 05 2011 16:38 GMT
#275
ye i saw but in the gsl he was using a small gray mousepad
Does he look like a bItch?
Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
June 05 2011 17:09 GMT
#276
On May 30 2011 10:40 ginywiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 23:48 CampinSam wrote:
On May 29 2011 14:45 ginywiny wrote:
wat about artosis?


Artosis uses a Salmosa (or an Abyssus, can't remember exactly which) and a High-end Korean Mechanical keyboard, that he has yet to tell us the name of.


i thought he used a qsenn dt 35


He used to.

I think he said Hwani (probably butchering that name) give the Mechanical keyboard to him, and he's been using it ever since. you can hear it on his stream.
Sometimes you have to play a long time to be able to play like yourself. - Miles Davis
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
June 05 2011 17:47 GMT
#277
Im pretty sure HuK uses the Abyssus and the DT35
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
LaiShin
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia978 Posts
June 05 2011 18:03 GMT
#278
probably not dt35 now that razer is one of TL's sponsors
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
June 05 2011 18:41 GMT
#279
On June 06 2011 03:03 LaiShin wrote:
probably not dt35 now that razer is one of TL's sponsors


I really doubt that he would switch just because of that. The fact that Razors's keyboards are shit and comfortability with equipment is important I doubt he would switch.
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
June 05 2011 19:40 GMT
#280
On June 06 2011 03:41 Syben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 03:03 LaiShin wrote:
probably not dt35 now that razer is one of TL's sponsors


I really doubt that he would switch just because of that. The fact that Razors's keyboards are shit and comfortability with equipment is important I doubt he would switch.

well arent they kinda forced to switch or risk losing the razer as a sponsor?
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