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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 17 2012 07:09 GMT
#17721
So after reading a lot of reviews, seems like the hitachi hard drive i wanted to get is overpriced because of floods in thailand

hitachi hd 80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-145-299&SortField=0&SummaryType=2&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=4#scrollFullInfo

i'm thinking of searching for a refurbished harddrive with a local computer guy..

mmm another reccomendation i got here for my motherboard = ASROCK h61m-VS 60$ buccks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

does not come with PCI slots? UHM don't i need that for my video card?? Should I be spending more money on a better motherboard, are am i raising up false concerns?

SAPPHIRE 6870 164$, or should i go with the Powercolor Radeon one that I've seen SkyR reccomend for like 10 bucks more?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

i'm going go with the rosewill capstone, 70$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

and i'm deciding on whether or not to get either of these bundles ( 3.1 ghz and 3.3 ghz) is it really a big difference? i don't plan on overclocking, i really don't even know how to do that...212$ compared to 250$ both come with patriot 8gb memory.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.806124
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.805911

besides that i have to get WIN 7 for 100$ bucks, or I can proly get XP pirated for free, should i do that or do i have to purchase the new wiN?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=32-116-986&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=1#scrollFullInfo

that's enough questions for now, thanks a lot to TL for helping make all the inquiry's possible, you guys are a huge help. I love you.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 17 2012 07:16 GMT
#17722
You need PCI-e slots. PCI is an old standard that is being phased out completely. That Mobo is fine unless you need something it doesnt provide.

Sapphire 6870 is fine.

Go with the top bundle, although the bottom one isnt bad either. You arent going to be overclocking so the "k" has no value to you. Your, uh, "standpoint" on XP is also valid for Win7, or you can get a student discount for Win7 and knock off a chunk of change on the OS.
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AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 17 2012 07:22 GMT
#17723
why dont i just buy this premade one from Frys.com?
http://www.frys.com/product/6236920?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG, does it suck balls? am i crazy? -_- help
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 17 2012 07:23 GMT
#17724
well my friend, can give me XP for free, i don't need the new WIN to play sc2 do i? but yes i will look into getting a student discount on that..ty
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 07:44:35
January 17 2012 07:25 GMT
#17725
Thats a core i5-650 (last generation) with a Radeon 5570.
Radeon 5570 will shit the bed if you even show it the box art to a modern game. I know this because I have been on an i3-2100 system with one. Good for things like SC2 and D3, bad for Crysis 2 and the like.

For $680 you can get way way better.

+ Show Spoiler +
Motherboard:
BIOSTAR H61MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340
54.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
189.99$

Graphics Card:
GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401
219.99$

RAM:
Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006
39.99$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
Cooler Master HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
59.99$

Power Supply:
Antec Neo Eco 520W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
54.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $691.92

Suggested Resolution: 1920x1080


Without needing an OS keyboard and mouse though. Even then you can get

+ Show Spoiler +
Motherboard:
BIOSTAR H61MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340
54.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
189.99$

Graphics Card:
HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
164.99$

RAM:
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
23.49$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
XIGMATEK Asgard II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
29.99$

Power Supply:
Antec Neo Eco 520W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
54.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $590.42$

Suggested Resolution: 1680x1050, 1920x1080 with reduced details, runs Starcraft on all Ultra in 1v1 at 60+ FPS except perhaps superlategame in certain situations


Hard drive prices notwithstanding.

ALERT: Just a sample example.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 07:32:06
January 17 2012 07:26 GMT
#17726
On January 17 2012 16:23 AAyeR wrote:
well my friend, can give me XP for free, i don't need the new WIN to play sc2 do i? but yes i will look into getting a student discount on that..ty


I wouldnt run XP on that machine. For starters you bought 8 gigs of RAM when windows XP can only allocate 3+gigs.

Also Windows XP cant run DX11. You really need to upgrade to Win7. Its good. Way better than Vista, which was awful.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 07:29:10
January 17 2012 07:28 GMT
#17727
@HuggyBear:

I wouldn't get the standard Z68M USB3 if you're planning on overclocking, which is what I assume the i5-2500k and Hyper 212 EVO are for.

Larger potential places to save money are to (1) forget about overclocking so drop the Hyper 212 EVO, replace i5-2500k with a cheaper i5, and get a cheaper motherboard or (2) get the HD 6870 instead of the HD 6950 and save the $60 difference. See the impact of these potential changes:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=331
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2

microATX is no problem really if the extra slots aren't needed. Some microATX cases are cramped; others are not. Elite 341 should be okay if you're not expecting much and don't care much about computer noises. It's a popular low-budget pick.

If you want to save money and keep the i5-2500k, I would get the AsRock Z68 Pro3-M.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17351

Neo Eco 450C is okay as you said. It's a little better than the Silverstone Strider Essentials anyway, except for needing to use a power adapter that will come with the graphics card anyway.

I would not get a PCI or PCI Express wireless network adapter, particularly for a config like that, particularly if the case will be on the floor. Reception sucks close to the floor, and the antennas are stuck back there, furthermore potentially being blocked by the chassis. One of the USB options, particularly with an extension cord (which may be provided) to move it around and not have it stuck to the chassis, is generally better if range and reception may possibly be a concern.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 17 2012 07:50 GMT
#17728
cooler master case 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

win 7 99$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Rosewill Capstone Power Supply 70$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

MOBO: ASROCK h61m-VS 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

I-5 Processor & 8GB Memory 212$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.806124http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

VIdeo Card:SAPPHIRE 6870 164$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Harddrive Hitachi 80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-145-299&SortField=0&SummaryType=2&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=4#scrollFullInfo

DVD rom 18$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

Monitor? I currently have a Flatron L1920P, I can invest maybe 100-130 preferably, any suggestions?

Total Cost so far
60+99+70+60+212+164+80+18=763$



Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 08:00:17
January 17 2012 07:59 GMT
#17729
Mmm. My suggestion would be to get a better monitor budget, as all the monitors in that price range are pretty low quality in the grand scheme of things. You get what you pay for.

A friend bought this 1440*900 monitor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236203

Its alright.

I think this Samsung is an ok deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001522

1080p at least.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 17 2012 08:15 GMT
#17730
Yeah I'd get the Antec Neo Eco 400C over the Capstone at those prices ($40 vs. $70):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029

That way you have more money for the monitor. Also possibly consider a cheaper chassis. Windows and the chassis are a little cheaper from NCIX if you want to go that route.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1065
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1065


Anyway, I don't think you should be skimping that hard on the monitor with a build like this.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 17 2012 08:18 GMT
#17731
If you could salvage a hard drive from somewhere, that would also be an amazing boost.
twitch.tv/medrea
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 17 2012 08:50 GMT
#17732
so with a build like this, what kind of range should i be looking at?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 17 2012 12:16 GMT
#17733
On January 17 2012 17:50 AAyeR wrote:
so with a build like this, what kind of range should i be looking at?


As much as you can provide it really. Your Computer build itself is fairly good.
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itzdoody
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada33 Posts
January 17 2012 14:08 GMT
#17734
Can anybody suggest me a good build that can run SC2 fairly good without lag, and maybe the upcoming Diablo3?

I'm noob at this and need help!

My budget is around 550-600$ and I'd like to have the computer built within the next month
김태연 fighting~ !
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 17 2012 14:10 GMT
#17735
On January 17 2012 23:08 itzdoody wrote:
Can anybody suggest me a good build that can run SC2 fairly good without lag, and maybe the upcoming Diablo3?

I'm noob at this and need help!

My budget is around 550-600$ and I'd like to have the computer built within the next month


resolution...? do you need an operating system ...?
itzdoody
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada33 Posts
January 17 2012 14:15 GMT
#17736
On January 17 2012 23:10 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 23:08 itzdoody wrote:
Can anybody suggest me a good build that can run SC2 fairly good without lag, and maybe the upcoming Diablo3?

I'm noob at this and need help!

My budget is around 550-600$ and I'd like to have the computer built within the next month


resolution...? do you need an operating system ...?


Sorry I'm really bad at this, but my friend told me to get Windows 7, but I don't know about the resolution, do you have any suggestions?
김태연 fighting~ !
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 17 2012 14:17 GMT
#17737
The resolution is what resolution you play the game at. Or.. just tell us what size of monitor you are using right now.
itzdoody
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada33 Posts
January 17 2012 14:22 GMT
#17738
I'm planning to spend another 150$ get a new monitor as well, since mine is quite old

So my total budget would be around 700-800$
김태연 fighting~ !
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 17 2012 14:34 GMT
#17739
For around $750 (all prices are estimates), this is basically what you should be getting:

core i5 2400 / core i5 2320 $190
h61 $60
500gb hdd $90
8gb 1333MHz $40
case $40
power $40
6850 $140
dvd burner $17
monitor $120
itzdoody
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada33 Posts
January 17 2012 15:10 GMT
#17740
Thanks, i'll take this in consideration
김태연 fighting~ !
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