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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 18 2012 04:50 GMT
#17761
also seems like a lot of people complain about ASROCK technical support, if i have any problems with my mobo, ie. arrives DOA, i would like it to be handled smoothly, i've heard asus has better tech support, it is my first time buying parts online, and i know the online business can be shady.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 04:52:04
January 18 2012 04:51 GMT
#17762
Advantages of the more expensive mobo:

Can overclock a K-labeled processor (which you're not buying - but if you were, this motherboard would be a good choice)
You can use a PCI expansion slot (old sound card or *snicker* modem?)
It has SATA 6gb/s ports useful if you ever upgrade to an SSD (this is the only real benefit, and you can get that benefit cheaper if you want it)

Disadvantages of the more expensive mobo:
is bigger (shouldn't come into play)
Can't support integrated graphics (probably won't come into play)

So no, you do not want the more expensive motherboard.

You actually should probably get the Asrock ASRock H61M-GE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157256

It's 3 dollars more expensive than the one you were considering, and you lose a pci-e expansion slot for a PCI expansion slot, probably a slight downgrade, and drop from 2 PS/2 ports to 1. But you get a little bit better audio connections, 2 more RAM slots, and DVI & HDMI connection options in addition to VGA if you need to use integrated graphics. Probably none of that will matter, but it is a tad more flexible for $3 more.

As for hard drives, there's not a lot of difference between 7200 RPM hard drives. Don't get the used one though, for $5 you might as well have a return policy backing you.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 18 2012 04:53 GMT
#17763
i've never really thought of overclocking, and i haven't done it before. so your saying if i get the p67 board i should go for the i5 2500k bundle w/ the patriot memory... i'm going to see how much that would come out to.. i def. want to get something i will content with. ty again skyR
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 18 2012 04:55 GMT
#17764
On January 18 2012 13:50 AAyeR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
also seems like a lot of people complain about ASROCK technical support, if i have any problems with my mobo, ie. arrives DOA, i would like it to be handled smoothly, i've heard asus has better tech support, it is my first time buying parts online, and i know the online business can be shady.


Dealing with the manufacturer has nothing to do with purchasing online. If your product arrives DOA, you deal with the retailer (Newegg).

Whether you purchase from Newegg or from Bestbuy, you can pay extra to deal with the retailer instead if that's who you want to deal with in a year or two.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 04:59:17
January 18 2012 04:58 GMT
#17765
edit: ninja'd...that's what I get for responding to work (school)-related e-mails

If there's a DOA part, you want to get a replacement through newegg (which will handle it well and quickly), not the manufacturer. Customer support is really only for handling products that become defective later yet not before the warranty's run out. Most stuff probably fails early enough to get it handled through newegg RMA or dies late enough that the warranty doesn't cover it anymore.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 18 2012 05:03 GMT
#17766
you know what since it's my first build maybe i should stay away from overclocking, seems like i'm a complete newb and will run into problems i will not be able to fix..
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 18 2012 05:13 GMT
#17767
ok so i'm not going to get the better motherboard since i don't plan on getting on SSD on this build, uhm i only need 1 ps port anyway right? i just have 1 mouse and 1 keyboard.. i don't think i will need more RAM slots, i really don't save anything on my CPU , except school work, im not really into saving music or data files. I would like to get a better monitor so maybe the HDMI input would be much needed when i choose my monitor. thx again guys, i'm feeling more confident in what is becoming.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 18 2012 05:14 GMT
#17768
oh i will need a wifi thingie, do i need a PS port for that?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 18 2012 05:20 GMT
#17769
Having one PS/2 port has nothing to do with the higher-end motherboard. Higher-end boards won't have have any PS/2 ports because it's being phased out in favor of USB.

External wifi adapters plug in through USB.

HDMI is useless for a computer. All better monitors should be connected with DP, thunderbolt, lightning bolt, or whatever will be the new standard.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 18 2012 06:54 GMT
#17770
Here is my build with help of skyr and myrmidon and others, thank you guys so much. I am going to place my order tomorrow.

i5-2400 & 8gb patriot memory 212$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.806124

Sapphire HD 6870 165$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Rosewill Capstone 70$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

AsRock H61M-VS 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

Western Digital Caviar Blue 80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

LITE-ON DVD-ROM 19$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276

HAF 912 50$
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1065

Win7 100$

212+165+70+60+80+19+50+100=756

ok so i pretty much can spend about 200$ on a monitor, please send suggestions, thanks a lot guys, am i missing anything? maybe 30$ bucks ona cooler fan?


Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 18 2012 07:03 GMT
#17771
That will be a sad day when PS/2 is phased out considering PS/2 is still better than USB for keyboards.

You dont need a cooler for that system because you arent overclocking, so the stock fan is just fine.
twitch.tv/medrea
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 18 2012 07:06 GMT
#17772
I suppose you grab one of those 23"-24" Asus VH or VS models for $200. As usual, don't bother with monitor speakers.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 16:03:41
January 18 2012 16:01 GMT
#17773
Any reason anyone prefers the ASRock H61M-VS over the Biostar H61MGC? The networking chipset is better on the Biostar, and you get 3yr warranty vs 1, and it's $10 cheaper ATM... though idk about their customer support, and also it only has 4 back USB2.0 instead of 6 on the ASRock.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 18 2012 16:21 GMT
#17774
If you don't need to touch the BIOS ever, the Biostar board should work fine. Never been a fan of driving to bottom tier hardware anyway so I'm biased.
Shiwoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States25 Posts
January 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#17775
Hey guys. I had a weird question and I didn't know where else to go. You guys seem to always answer questions for me.

I was wondering if it is "bad" for me to watch movies straight off my portable hard drive instead of dragging them over. My friend said that it might take life off the hard drive and could potentially, in the long run, be bad for it. The reason why I watch them off my portable is because I don't want to wait to drag them over (I watch a lot of HD movies). Thanks!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 18 2012 17:32 GMT
#17776
Hard disks tend to either die very early or just keep on trucking for a long time. Just so whatever suits you best.
Shiwoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States25 Posts
January 18 2012 18:00 GMT
#17777
Thanks! I will definitely just keep doing it then because I have had the hard drive for several years.
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
January 18 2012 20:57 GMT
#17778
Back again! Thanks for all the help so far. After looking around and reading more on this thread I've refined my build a little.

+ Show Spoiler +
BIOSTAR H61MLC LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Intel Core i5-2400 with 8GB Memory Bundle:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.806124

PowerColor AX5570 1GBD3-H Radeon HD 5570 Graphics Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131342

For a PSU we have a TR2-430W Thermaltake W0070RU that I think will work... stats:
+ Show Spoiler +
AC Input
115V/10A
230V/5A

DC Output
12V - 18A
Let me know if you want more.


As for a case and optical drive, we have an old hp (the cpu we're replacing) that has a standard ATX in it and still has the optical drive. Will the micro ATX fit inside? And will the case work in general do you think? Also, if the micro won't fit, is there a standard ATX I could buy that would work for the build and would fit? Here's a link to the model of cpu we are replacing if you want to see any specs: + Show Spoiler +
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00849513&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=125&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3339296&prodTypeId=12454


Thanks for all the help!
Games before dames.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 18 2012 23:06 GMT
#17779
On January 19 2012 05:57 RumbleBadger wrote:
Back again! Thanks for all the help so far. After looking around and reading more on this thread I've refined my build a little.

+ Show Spoiler +
BIOSTAR H61MLC LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Intel Core i5-2400 with 8GB Memory Bundle:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.806124

PowerColor AX5570 1GBD3-H Radeon HD 5570 Graphics Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131342

For a PSU we have a TR2-430W Thermaltake W0070RU that I think will work... stats:
+ Show Spoiler +
AC Input
115V/10A
230V/5A

DC Output
12V - 18A
Let me know if you want more.


As for a case and optical drive, we have an old hp (the cpu we're replacing) that has a standard ATX in it and still has the optical drive. Will the micro ATX fit inside? And will the case work in general do you think? Also, if the micro won't fit, is there a standard ATX I could buy that would work for the build and would fit? Here's a link to the model of cpu we are replacing if you want to see any specs: + Show Spoiler +
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00849513&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=125&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3339296&prodTypeId=12454


Thanks for all the help!


Yeah the standoffs for a case that allows for ATX should also allow for mATX. If it somehow doesn't. Then any recent ATX case will accomodate an mATX board.
twitch.tv/medrea
monkeii
Profile Joined November 2011
United States56 Posts
January 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#17780
Hihi. ^^

Anyway. I just want to get some advice on the parts for this computer I'm planning to build. ^^

Budget: $1000-$1200
Resolution:
Purpose: Gaming/Streaming/Recording <3
Upgrade Cycle: 2-3 years. (One part of a time. Too poor. </3)
Planned Building Date: March/April
Overclocking: Yes.
OS: Yes. Sadly.
Second GPU: Nah
Where I can buy parts: Frys/Microcenter/Online.
Liquid`Jinro | LG-IMMvp | Yoshi Kirishima | Mill.Dayshi ~ <3
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