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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
January 19 2012 05:10 GMT
#17801
@Myrmidon I can afford the 6770, I was just worried about the psu, but it looks like that's not a problem. And yeah, we just had the psu sitting around the house (it's not used... I don't really know where we got it) so I figured I'd use it. Also is there anything else you'd suggest I'd upgrade that's worth the bang I'll get for the extra bucks?

Build as of now:
BIOSTAR H61MLC LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Intel Core i5-2400 with 8GB Memory Bundle:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.806124

XFX HD-677X-ZNLC Radeon HD 6770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150540

Then the PSU already discussed. And I already have a case that should work with an ATX or micro ATX, a monitor, and an optical drive.
Games before dames.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 19 2012 05:10 GMT
#17802
Whatever happened to recommending a build like this for Rumble?

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Motherboard:
BIOSTAR H61MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340
54.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
124.99$

Graphics Card:
HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
164.99$

RAM:
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
23.49$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
XIGMATEK Asgard II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
29.99$

Power Supply:
Antec Neo Eco 520W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
54.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $525.42

Suggested Resolution: 1680x1050, 1920x1080 with reduced details, runs SC2 on ultra in 1920x1080 with some reduced CPU settings


Save $100 by going with i3-2100 instead. HDD prices are higher but one can be salvaged. And 6870 dropped to a 6770 should be very well within his means.

I glanced at his last build and it had an i5-2400 in it. I am not sure I see the point.
twitch.tv/medrea
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 05:14:10
January 19 2012 05:12 GMT
#17803
Edit: Me slow.

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SkyR already answered you on the power supply. It'll run anything in your budget, and you don't have the money to upgrade, so worry that's it's not high quality.

You want to look for a deal on a 5770 or 6770 (6770 and 5770 are basically the same thing). At least, that's the card Myrmidon recommended. It is a significant upgrade from a 6670. It should be about $105-110. If you like racing games, you can probably find one that comes with Dirt 3.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 05:16:46
January 19 2012 05:15 GMT
#17804
Well, I need:

Exhaust Fan (3-pin)
Front Intake Fan (3-pin)
Heatsink Fan (4-pin)
Side Intake Fan (3-pin)

I guess I can't do anything about the Heatsink fan? It's a Hyper 212. Or can I still get the same level of performance but quieter?

Also, I guess I don't really care about the others. Just something with good performance/silence balance. Preferably more emphasis on silence.

I'm guessing that a lot of audible noise is due to the fact that my Storm Scout has side cover slits and that is unavoidable. I suppose I should just get a new case entirely like the Fractal. Hrmmm.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 19 2012 05:22 GMT
#17805
I'd get the Fractal and maybe salvage a fan (or more) from the Storm Scout, to make two intake + one exhaust. Then change the fan profile for the Hyper 212 fan.
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
January 19 2012 05:24 GMT
#17806
On January 19 2012 14:10 Medrea wrote:
Whatever happened to recommending a build like this for Rumble?

+ Show Spoiler +
Motherboard:
BIOSTAR H61MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340
54.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
124.99$

Graphics Card:
HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
164.99$

RAM:
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
23.49$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
XIGMATEK Asgard II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
29.99$

Power Supply:
Antec Neo Eco 520W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
54.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $525.42

Suggested Resolution: 1680x1050, 1920x1080 with reduced details, runs SC2 on ultra in 1920x1080 with some reduced CPU settings


Save $100 by going with i3-2100 instead. HDD prices are higher but one can be salvaged. And 6870 dropped to a 6770 should be very well within his means.

I glanced at his last build and it had an i5-2400 in it. I am not sure I see the point.

Wow thanks that makes it easy. =D But also, I already have an optical drive, case that will work with an ATX or micro ATX (I believe), and a power supply that will at least work for what I need. And since that drops the bottom $100 or so off the price tag is there something I could upgrade that would be worthwhile for my money? Obviously I don't want to just spend money to spend money, but if there's something that could use the extra $75 left, I'd be happy to upgrade it.

And as for the i5 I just saw that somebody else was getting it as part of their suggested build and it was in the neat little package with the memory, so I figured it would be a good thing to get. If there's no need at all, sure I can drop to an i3, but again, if it will make a noticeable difference I could just get the i5. I dunno.

Any advice appreciated, and thanks for all being so awesome.
Games before dames.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 05:26:51
January 19 2012 05:26 GMT
#17807
For most games it would be better to get the i3 and the better graphics card. (so the question is: what games? what's the computer for again?)
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 19 2012 05:34 GMT
#17808
I think it is just the standard. SC2, Skyrim, normal PC user tasks with video-editing/rendering not really being one of them.
twitch.tv/medrea
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 19 2012 05:40 GMT
#17809
nice so instead of getting the haf 912, i should go with the fractal skyr? i 'm going to be ordering soon, and i actually didn't like the HAF appearance so i'm very happy to jump on

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=53537&promoid=1130

also did you guys see this ? wonder if i slept on it, it was available earlier, and i didn't purchase now it's sold out
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-17-553-005-_-01182012_5
was thinking of getting that instead of the rosewill capstone

also this deal is available, for a vid card ( i am about to order sapphire @ 164$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-14-150-521-_-Product

so basically I am ready to order, just one last thing, i am clueless on what monitor to get, here are some newegg deals i see that I think might be a good purchase, correct me if i'm wrong.

100$ bucks for this acer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009314&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-24-009-314-_-Product
25$ bucks off this monitor @ 175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-24-236-175-_-Product
current hot deal on new egg, 130$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009305&cm_sp=Cat_Monitors-_-Hot_Deal-_-24-009-305
then theres this one 150$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682423617
and this , 170$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236102
this widescreen looks sweet, good for sc2? i dont know 200$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

gimmie sum suggestions plz, i got all my finances ready to spend the bucks!
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
January 19 2012 05:44 GMT
#17810
On January 19 2012 14:34 Medrea wrote:
I think it is just the standard. SC2, Skyrim, normal PC user tasks with video-editing/rendering not really being one of them.

Skyrim is probably the most graphics intense thing I would really ever do on the comp. And if I can't get a comp that will run Skyrim for $500 that's fine, I'd just prefer if it could.

As for cpu intensive stuff, I don't really video edit at all, though I actually might be starting some of that soon (but not intense stuff, really just like simple youtube vids with little to no actual editing). Some light photoshopping. Every once in a while my mom might need to do some coding on it or something if she has to work from home. Either way, she can work from home now and an i3 is better than the cpu she uses now.

In that case would the remaining $75 be better spent on improving graphics more or getting the i5 over the i3?
Games before dames.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 19 2012 05:47 GMT
#17811
Probably improving the graphics as long as you arent a user that like 50 chrome tabs open while watching a stream or streaming yourself.
twitch.tv/medrea
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 19 2012 05:49 GMT
#17812
should i order the fractal case asap? i don't want to miss out on a good buy ..
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 05:52:57
January 19 2012 05:52 GMT
#17813
Your choice. You need $50+ for free shipping, so if you need a DVD burner, you might as well get it at NCIX as well: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1130 and the processor as well.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 19 2012 05:56 GMT
#17814
but i'm getting the 212$ bundle i5 2400 with patriot, still a better deal to get processor there?, that's fine i do need a dvd burner
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 06:01:02
January 19 2012 05:57 GMT
#17815
@AAyer - get the Fractal. It's a quieter case than the 912, both are decent quality, and if you like the looks that really seals the deal. The fractal at $50 is a fantastic price.

Between the Sapphire and XFX 6870, if they are about the same price get the XFX. All 6870s should perform about the same, but the XFX's cooler should be quieter: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/42796-hd-6870-roundup-diamond-powercolor-msi-sapphire-xfx-18.html
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(Not exactly the same product #, but the coolers look the same.)


Dunno on monitor. But the above seem pretty clear decisions. Edit: 20" is kind of small for gaming (my opinion only). A bigger monitor will probably be funner.

@RumbleBadger: For gaming, most games that can use 4 cores are also pretty graphics heavy - so you generally want to get an i3 with a more powerful video card rather than a i5 with a less powerful video card. I read one review that Skyrim can use 4 cores, but does well on 2. So the i3 should be fine. The same review also said that shadows in particular tax the CPU in that game, so you can always turn down the shadows setting if the CPU seems to be a problem. Whereas a better graphics card should overall better.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 19 2012 05:59 GMT
#17816
patriot bundle is better. Just buy something to make your order $50+ for free shipping.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 06:01:37
January 19 2012 06:01 GMT
#17817
well ur right it comes out to about the same since they have a weekly special on the i5-2400 i was gonna get
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57964&vpn=BX80623I52400&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1130
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
January 19 2012 06:07 GMT
#17818
So would pushing up to something like this make a noticeable difference? It brings me basically right up to my budget ($15 to spare), but it's still a 6870. I have the money, so should I just go for it? Any other suggestions for around a $220 graphics card would be much appreciated too.
Games before dames.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 19 2012 06:08 GMT
#17819
what do u think is this the winner?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-24-236-175-_-Product

i have to order within the next 2 hours if i wanna get the full discount
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 19 2012 06:09 GMT
#17820
If you want to spend $220, get a GTX 560 Ti. A Radeon HD6870 for $220 is an absurd waste of money since they can be had for sub $160...
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