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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
January 16 2012 22:24 GMT
#17701
The ATI Radeon 7xxx series is coming out tomorrow, yes? Or am i mistaken?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 22:29:39
January 16 2012 22:29 GMT
#17702
On January 17 2012 07:24 Josh_rakoons wrote:
The ATI Radeon 7xxx series is coming out tomorrow, yes? Or am i mistaken?


Its out already.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709 600286767&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon HD 7000 series

Since last week. Paper launched on Dec 22nd.
twitch.tv/medrea
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
January 16 2012 22:58 GMT
#17703
On January 17 2012 07:13 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 05:44 Nabutso wrote:
Looking to buy a 3930k but I cant find any anywhere for sub $850 that are in stock. Anyone happen to know where I can find one for $600-$650?

I'm looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121534

Is this a good mobo for the 3930k? or is anything other than the sabertooth garbage?


Depends on what your total system is going to be.

I am assuming we are using at least 3 Graphics cards (prob 7970's) yes?

We need to know so we recommend the right amount of PCI-e slots and such.


I'm ok with 2 PCI-e slots. I'm not interested in going higher than that.

My budget for CPU/RAM/MOBO is $1000

CPU 600-650, Mobo 250-300, RAM probably 8 or 16gb.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 23:15:11
January 16 2012 23:11 GMT
#17704
On January 17 2012 07:58 Nabutso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 07:13 Medrea wrote:
On January 17 2012 05:44 Nabutso wrote:
Looking to buy a 3930k but I cant find any anywhere for sub $850 that are in stock. Anyone happen to know where I can find one for $600-$650?

I'm looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121534

Is this a good mobo for the 3930k? or is anything other than the sabertooth garbage?


Depends on what your total system is going to be.

I am assuming we are using at least 3 Graphics cards (prob 7970's) yes?

We need to know so we recommend the right amount of PCI-e slots and such.


I'm ok with 2 PCI-e slots. I'm not interested in going higher than that.

My budget for CPU/RAM/MOBO is $1000

CPU 600-650, Mobo 250-300, RAM probably 8 or 16gb.


You are intending on multi GPU though right?

I dunno why I am asking though now that i think about it. I probably wouldnt end up recommending a x16 x4 motherboard anyway.
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 16 2012 23:19 GMT
#17705
Two top-end graphics cards are plenty happy on x8/x8 PCI Express 2.x, and 16GB of RAM is not a huge amount. It doesn't seem like you actually need the X79 platform? Are the extra two CPU cores really worth $400+? What are you doing with the computer other than gaming?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 17 2012 00:11 GMT
#17706
Since you refuse to tell us what you're using the computer for, I think you should be reminded that virtually all games (except literally one or two - Shogun II: Total War is the one I know) can use no more than 2 or 4 cores. Thus making a 3930k or 3960k basically the same processor as an i5-2500k. If you're doing gaming & other basic use.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 01:14:52
January 17 2012 01:14 GMT
#17707
Honestly? All I'll be doing on this setup is gaming and streaming. It's way overkill and I understand, considering I can play and stream Skyrim at about 30-40fps on my q6600 (oc to 3.6ghz).

But I think I'm in love with the processor. All I do all day is read about it. Can't help but want it, and may even upgrade to Ivy-e in a year.

I didn't notice the combo deals for it on newegg, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.808408 is what i'm looking at right now.

I can't be convinced otherwise and I apologize for my disregard for bottlenecking, as I'm running a 6870 non crossfire right now. I only have a 450 watt psu and will consider getting geforce sli cards when the time comes.

it would be neat to assign 3 for a game and 3 for xsplit.
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
January 17 2012 01:18 GMT
#17708
How bullshit, it just went back in stock and out of stock as soon as i got my email about it being available.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 01:20:06
January 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#17709
On January 17 2012 10:14 Nabutso wrote:
Honestly? All I'll be doing on this setup is gaming and streaming. It's way overkill and I understand, considering I can play and stream Skyrim at about 30-40fps on my q6600 (oc to 3.6ghz).

But I think I'm in love with the processor. All I do all day is read about it. Can't help but want it, and may even upgrade to Ivy-e in a year.

I didn't notice the combo deals for it on newegg, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.808408 is what i'm looking at right now.

I can't be convinced otherwise and I apologize for my disregard for bottlenecking, as I'm running a 6870 non crossfire right now. I only have a 450 watt psu and will consider getting geforce sli cards when the time comes.

it would be neat to assign 3 for a game and 3 for xsplit.


Almost all games dont allow for more than 2. Otherwise we would all have AMD hexacores and octocores.
twitch.tv/medrea
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
January 17 2012 01:20 GMT
#17710
As I said, I cannot be convinced to not get this chip. It's taunting me. I must have it.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 01:41:32
January 17 2012 01:33 GMT
#17711
Right, I know. But I wouldnt be a contributor if I didnt point it out.

Pointing out hardware for enthusiasts with no real budget is difficult because we have to gauge your level of enthusiasm. A motherboard that we like might not have the aesthetic details you are looking for. So generally, we simply don't have recommendations for enthusiast socket owners.

We have however seen a lot of people screw themselves over with enthusiast equipment. Because they think they are future proofing. And they have to upgrade at the same time as non enthusiasts anyway. OR something breaks and they end up having to pay enthusiast level repairs. Those processors that are $1k now will be $1k 4 years from now as well.

We are just trying to make sure that this isnt you. We care! ™
twitch.tv/medrea
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 01:47:35
January 17 2012 01:43 GMT
#17712
At least you know you're a slave to advertising. Make sure to buy Kingston memory & a Kingston HyperX SSD if you get an SSD. I like those Evil Geniuses commercials and if someone's going to pay to watch advertising, some of it should go to them.

Edit: Apparently I care a little less than Medrea. Then again, I really like those commercials.
Edit2: Has the second stepping for the Sandy Bridge-E come out yet?
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
imJukin
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States47 Posts
January 17 2012 01:49 GMT
#17713
On January 17 2012 10:20 Nabutso wrote:
As I said, I cannot be convinced to not get this chip. It's taunting me. I must have it.


I actually had the 3930k recommended to me by Skyr for my budget, and I went with an Asus P9X79 Pro Motherboard.
Had 0 problems setting it up and clocking it to 4.5ghz and a stable 30c and 55-60 under 100%load using an noctua nh-dh14 aftermarket cooler. Computer does everything I need it to do and more so I give the processor a thumbs up if it fits your budget.
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
January 17 2012 02:43 GMT
#17714
It wasn't advertising that got to me. I just enjoyed reading its specs, reviews etc.

I already have an SSD and i'm lookign at Gskill memory, that or corsair. Should I bother getting memory with heatspreaders?
Thanks for the feedback imJukin.
jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
January 17 2012 02:45 GMT
#17715
On January 15 2012 15:56 Womwomwom wrote:
The Zalman Z9 is fugly but functionally its pretty good. Though unless you must have the fan controller and temeprture dock (which is utterly useless in practice), I'm not seeing why you can't ust get a nice Lancool chassis. For one, you actually get tool-less PCI clamps that actually work.


Thanks for the advice. Sorry it's taken me a while to reply. I'm looking into some Lancool cases now and they look pretty good. I didn't pick the Zalman for any particular reason -- I was just looking for a ballpark estimate of how much my build would cost so I didn't think a case would matter too much for an early estimate.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 04:26:10
January 17 2012 04:16 GMT
#17716
Reviews are mostly advertising. Generally speaking, if you can't say you want something for a reason other than 'it grew on me,' you're paying for advertising. If that gives you joy, go for it. Send an e-mail to Intel and claim e-sports advertising got to you though, I enjoy watching professional StarCraft .

Speaking of advertising, brand of memory does not matter. Specs do. Heatspreaders: no. Generally you want low-profile (no spiky heat spreaders), so you don't have compatibility issues with coolers with low clearance. By and large, heatspreaders are only useful for their aesthetics. If you're getting Sandy Bridge-E, you basically want the cheapest 1600mhz memory with a low profile.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Kzenk
Profile Joined April 2011
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 04:37:19
January 17 2012 04:34 GMT
#17717
Hey I want to increase my score of my laptop, I currently have an alienware m11x i got for christmas a year ago. At first I could play SC2 at high settings with no problem at all, or lag, and at good fps. But now, idk if it is because installing more and more games over the time i have to play sc2 at low settings. I am going to buy more ram although i dont think thats the problem, another hard drive disk for more space and a bit faster these two ill install them myself on the laptop, but I would like a better Graphic card, can I use any graphic card? Do I have to look for more specifics? Dell will install it for me, they send an worker from them to my house and install it. What type of ram, hdd and graphic cards would suit me to play higher settings of sc2 high as miniimum also to play other games such as batman and skyrim (I play skyirim at medium and sometimes get lil chopy but not much problems). In terms of Budget well I will find the money for now i have like 400 saved up, most probably will need a little more. And I would buy it as soon as I have the complete money for everything, from tomorrow throu 2 weeks.

*Edit*
I play sometimes setting my laptop in an lg 47'' tv throu hdmi putting in the mouse and keyboard also
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 05:16:53
January 17 2012 05:15 GMT
#17718
SC2 doesn't need a great graphics card. It sounds like something is using up system resources (particularly processor time) while you play. Are you now running programs in the background or have you accumulated bloatware/possibly a virus? SC2 doesn't need much RAM, HDD won't make a difference except in the loading screen, and like I said if your graphics card could handle SC2 before it should be the same now.

Frankly, it doesn't sound like a problem you can throw money at. At least not in terms of upgrades.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 17 2012 05:29 GMT
#17719
What are your CPU and GPU temps while the problem is happening?
twitch.tv/medrea
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 06:49:05
January 17 2012 06:48 GMT
#17720
Hi guys,

I'm helping my cousin build a new PC around the $1000 mark. I'm in a bit of a loss atm but since you guys give the best advice I reckon I might as well post here. So far I've picked out some decent parts but I need help on picking out a case and a mobo as well as a confirmation on the PSU. Should I drop down and go with an Antec Neo Eco 450C 450W instead of the Silverstone??

I'll be buying parts from PCCG, and the monitor is going to be in a separate budget.

Intel Core i5 2500k
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16531

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18670

Silverstone Strider 500W
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15319

HIS Radeon HD6950 1Gb IceQ
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18197

G.Skill F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT (2x4GB) DDR3
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16930

TP-Link TL-WN851ND 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17622

Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=16679

LG CH12LS28 12X BD-R Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18220


Ok now here's the problem. I'm torn between a mATX or a fullsize ATX mobo. I was thinking of going with a mATX build but I thought about how stuffy its going to be inside and now I'm second guessing. I was thinking getting either:

AsRock Z68M USB3 Mobo
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18210
CoolerMaster Elite 341 mATX
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=14530

or

ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 Mobo
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=18769
Antec Two Hundred Case v2
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_547&products_id=14042

Or should I just get the mATX ASRock with the Antec 200? If I can cut the price down more the better
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