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TBH, if it were up to me, I absolutely couldn't build my own, and I could spend ~$1300. I'd would just get something from iBUYPOWER or a prebuilt.
Something like this:
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel_P67_Core_i5_i7_Configurator
Configured with a GTX 560 Ti, Corsair TX650 V2, and NZXT Phantom is ~$1100. Pick your own screen, and you're good to go.
Same price same performance. Except the case and PSU, along with the other stuff, are almost guaranteed to be something I'd use again. I don't think the PSU in that newer dell you linked is complete crap since it's powering a GTX 560 Ti. But for the same money, I'd take a TX650 V2 and NZXT Phantom anyday 
And oh, you get a free Battlefield 3 If you pick up another 23" 1080p monitor from Newegg or something for ~$150, you can even afford an SSD for the same price as that Dell.
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Disregard the spoiler record, my mistake. + Show Spoiler +To be fair, the Dell pre-built likely has a GTX 560-Ti 448 (1.25 GB of ram is listed), a small step up from a true 560 Ti. Tough to find a pre-built option that doesn't look like a bad deal.
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On January 11 2012 10:46 MisterFred wrote:
To be fair, the Dell pre-built likely has a GTX 560-Ti 448 (1.25 GB of ram is listed), a small step up from a true 560 Ti. Tough to find a pre-built option that doesn't look like a bad deal.
Nope they list 1.25 sometimes
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On January 11 2012 10:26 SiMPL wrote:
Thanks for your help guys,
The price for this one is $1,368.99 and the power supply is 460W.
So yeah over $1300.00
Im kinda Meh for that kind of money.
Thats better than what I am usually feeling for prebuilts though.
Discounting monitor and all that, you have like $1000 there. Give or take.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271861
So basically, you could have a 580 but are getting a 560 (its not a 448 model). Which is a huge difference. i5-2320 instead of an i5-2500k, alright thats not too bad. Quality PSU as opposed to shit.
HDD's went up a lot though recently.
I dunno i guess thats not awful. If you are someone who knows how to build a PC taking the hit on the above this doesnt sound like a good deal at all. But knowledge has a price so, I guess its OK.
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More dollars than sense.
I believe is how the saying goes.
USA marketing is powerful.
EDIT: or wait I should say,
As an American, I am both confused and angry at the thought of building my own computer.
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It comes with a 23" monitor and a keyboard / mouse.
That PC is about $1100 US, when converted. They're pretty much the same.
I don't see how that is so bad. In comparison to European prices anyways. Unless you're talking about how European prices are usually much higher than US prices. Then yeah. But lately the disparity seems to have shrunk. More and more European pre-builts seem to be going down, on par with US pre-built prices.
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Uh- I'm trying to install windows 7 now onto my asus h61m-LE motherboard with a i5 2400, 8gb gskill ripjaws ram (1600), liteon dvd drive,
I keep getting a can not boot from cd. Code 5 Error
anyone know what to do?
I've googled the error, and it seems to be only on older pcs. Thanks for any help you guys can give.
Currently making a bootable usb, but if that doesn't work. Any suggestions?
Is this a hardware error? Or am i just doing something dumb. Thanks again
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On January 11 2012 12:16 jacosajh wrote:It comes with a 23" monitor and a keyboard / mouse. That PC is about $1100 US, when converted. They're pretty much the same. I don't see how that is so bad. In comparison to European prices anyways. Unless you're talking about how European prices are usually much higher than US prices. Then yeah. But lately the disparity seems to have shrunk. More and more European pre-builts seem to be going down, on par with US pre-built prices.
again you're forgetting that american prices include no tax and european do, in europe the computer builder needs to pay the 19-23% tax so the product needs to cost that much more. Rather could compare to profit margins, it's just really silly converting currencies like that. Also that's just a normal acer prebuilt, the boutiques tend to be cheaper. There was this really nice asus essentio computer for 900€ that had similiar specs but they got sold out immediately >_>
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Thanks for the suggestions, skyR and Myrmidon!
Decided on the build that Myrmidon put down, but decided to get a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus over the Xigmatek Gaia. Since I have a mechanical keyboard and headphones, I figured those would be enough to mask the sounds coming from the PC as a result of choosing the Hyper 212 Plus.
Total price was as quoted, $748 with shipping included. Will post another update when the parts come in and the new rig assembled.
Once again, thank you so much for all the help and pointing me in the right direction!
On January 10 2012 18:07 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 17:39 sawedust wrote:+ Show Spoiler +[Hi Myrmidon, Thank you for the excellent recommendation. As it stands, the price before shipping is what I wanted: 648 USD. It's a shame that shipping to Hawaii adds an additional 100 USD to the price, but one that I guess I'll have to swallow. I'll be sleeping on it and figuring out what I want to do in the morning. Is there any corners that I can reasonably cut without sacrificing too much performance? Not much you can cut from this. You can get a less expensive shittier case, a 400w unit such as CX430V2 or Antec Neo Eco, salvage a DVD burner from somewhere, and get a less expensive H61 board (Asrock H61M-VS) which doesn't come with USB3 or SATA 6Gbps - not a big deal if this is primarily for Starcraft II.
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On January 11 2012 13:02 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 12:16 jacosajh wrote:It comes with a 23" monitor and a keyboard / mouse. That PC is about $1100 US, when converted. They're pretty much the same. I don't see how that is so bad. In comparison to European prices anyways. Unless you're talking about how European prices are usually much higher than US prices. Then yeah. But lately the disparity seems to have shrunk. More and more European pre-builts seem to be going down, on par with US pre-built prices. again you're forgetting that american prices include no tax and european do, in europe the computer builder needs to pay the 19-23% tax so the product needs to cost that much more. Rather could compare to profit margins, it's just really silly converting currencies like that. Also that's just a normal acer prebuilt, the boutiques tend to be cheaper. There was this really nice asus essentio computer for 900€ that had similiar specs but they got sold out immediately >_>
I don't understand what you're saying.
They cost the same, regardless of profit margins or taxes (which depending on where you buy, you don't pay here).
And you want to take into account all factors of economics, European prices would be even higher since income is generally lower.
I thought it is generally understood European computer pricing is worse.
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Can anyone tell me the benefits of the x58 chipset over the x79 for gaming? I just didnt see the x79 listed on here, so it maybe a stupid question haha = /
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On January 11 2012 14:12 KneeDeeP wrote:
Can anyone tell me the benefits of the x58 chipset over the x79 for gaming? I just didnt see the x79 listed on here, so it maybe a stupid question haha = /
None; OP needs updating.
But unless you need a super-beast workstation or want to run some uber tri-SLI GTX 580s setup or something like that, you don't want X79 anyway so it's a moot point for pretty much everybody who comes in here and needs advice on their build. Most power users that need X79 don't need to be asking for advice--either they know already, or money's not much of a concern and they'll just buy a prebuilt.
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On January 11 2012 13:51 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 13:02 Shikyo wrote:On January 11 2012 12:16 jacosajh wrote:It comes with a 23" monitor and a keyboard / mouse. That PC is about $1100 US, when converted. They're pretty much the same. I don't see how that is so bad. In comparison to European prices anyways. Unless you're talking about how European prices are usually much higher than US prices. Then yeah. But lately the disparity seems to have shrunk. More and more European pre-builts seem to be going down, on par with US pre-built prices. again you're forgetting that american prices include no tax and european do, in europe the computer builder needs to pay the 19-23% tax so the product needs to cost that much more. Rather could compare to profit margins, it's just really silly converting currencies like that. Also that's just a normal acer prebuilt, the boutiques tend to be cheaper. There was this really nice asus essentio computer for 900€ that had similiar specs but they got sold out immediately >_> I don't understand what you're saying. They cost the same, regardless of profit margins or taxes (which depending on where you buy, you don't pay here). And you want to take into account all factors of economics, European prices would be even higher since income is generally lower. I thought it is generally understood European computer pricing is worse.
European prebuilt computers are way way way cheaper in comparison to the component prices than in NA, what are you talking about?
And I know you don't pay taxes there but over here you pay 23% taxes that the prebuilt computer sellers pay as well... o_o(or basically it's included in the price)
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Hello,
I was wondering if someone could help me out with a build. What I am trying to do is basically play SC2 at 1920x1080 on Ultra with no fps issues.
What is your budget?
Well, I'd like to keep it below 900, so ideally as cheap as possible, but still accomplishing what I'd like.
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What is your upgrade cycle?
Every few years, the only game I really play is Starcraft, so this isnt really an issue. I'm not exactly a "gamer", I really only play SC2 and occasionally CSS
When do you plan on building it?
WIthin the next month or so.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Not Likely
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Possibly in the future, again not likely as I only play starcraft
Where are you buying your parts from?
Most likely Newegg, or Microcenter.
Thanks in advance for the input, I appreciate it.
Kwangho
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you'd probably be just fine with a i5 2400, a h61 mobo that's in the 50-60 dollar range, 8gb 1333-1600 1.5v ram, haf 912, cx 430, 6870, a random dvdrw, a random hard drive
That should total something like 190 + 55 + 35 + 60 + 45 + 160 + 17 + 70 or so. You'd be fine with even a 6850 instead of 6870 but 6870 is pretty cheap right now so that might be a good idea, just in case that you'd like to play a more demanding game later on.
And yeah as you can see this is way below your budget, you might want to consider a 64GB SSD like the crucial m4 as I think that at that point that would give you the most bang for buck if you want to come closer to spending your budget(still a ton to spare though), that'll be an extra 100$ or so and it'll really make the experience smoother.
Apart from that I'd personally spend the rest of the budget on a topre realforce as these are lovely :3 Okay okay, sorry
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Building up a computer for a friend, was wondering which was the best of the "Be Quiet Pure Power, 400W", "Seasonic S12II, 430 W", and "Antec EarthWatts Green, 430 W".
For an OC'd i5 and gtx560ti (promos at 150 euros, the the psu are respectivly at only 40, 50 and 40 euros)
edit : and the 6870 is at 100 euros... damn why did i buy my computer a few months ago 
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Wtf those prices are insane o_o
But either way I'd actually go with super flower golden green 400 ^-^ But the seasonic one if that's not available
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Don't have super flower on the website... (and yeah, intel 120gb SSD at 120 euros also... :p)
and guess i'll go with the seasonic... (say i got my 6870 for 5 euros less then that gtx560ti, sigh...)
for people who live in france/belgium/switzerland, www.topachat.com is the way to go at the second
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I noticed that the Be Quiet! was actually an Efficient Power (80 plus gold; it's FSP Aurum internally I think), not a Pure Power. Since it's 40 euros, I would get that over the Seasonic. Arguably the Seasonic is a little higher quality, but the Efficient Power should be solid enough, and it's 80 plus gold too.
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