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xeo1
United States429 Posts
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RaKooNs
United Kingdom397 Posts
On October 25 2011 01:35 Irby wrote: Thanks for all the help everyone (especially skyR and Shikyo). Thanks to all the suggestions I think I have most of my hardware for my new rig selected. I'm gonna throw it up here again for any last suggestions. My previous build is post #2 on page 670. Just a recap: My budget is $2,000 US (but I need all new peripherals with that 2K, peripherals also listed below), Resolution is 1900x1080, use is video games (Like skyrim) on very good settings and some video encoding, upgrade cycle is 2 years (although smaller adjustments can be made in between this cycle), I plan on buying it this week (from online retailers, and I'm located in the US), I plan on adding a second GPU and going SLI within the next year (will probably add more monitors when I do this), I do not need an OS, and I plan on overclocking the [reasonable] crap out of my CPU. The Build Case COOLER MASTER HAF 922 $90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 I know I could go cheaper and smaller with my build, but I like this case because of the LED fans that come with it and the slick visuals. Motherboard ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 $155 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo A bit pricey, but it has really solid reviews from customers, and it will allow me to go SLI in the near future. CPU Intel Core i5 2500K $190 ncix.us GPU EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD Fermi $333 ncix.us (view here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621 ) Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 HDD SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 SSD Crucial M4 64GB $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 Optical Drive ASUS 24X DVD Burner $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 PSU XFX 850W Core Edition $75 (with rebate) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63239&promoid=1208 Updated: Thanks skyR - A lot more power than I need at this point, but it will give me wiggle room for transitioning into an SLI setup in the near future. Heatsink ZALMAN CNPS9900 NT 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler $41 (with rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118054 Very solid reviews, and extra peace of mind since I know from other customer reviews it fits with the motherboard (Weird heatshield on the P67 blocks some heatsinks). This, hopefully, will allow me to set a pretty good overclock on my i5. Peripherals Monitor ASUS VE258Q Black 25" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor $260 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236123 Headset Astro A40 Wired Headset with Mixamp $250 http://www.astrogaming.com/audio-systems/a40-audio-systems/a40-audio-system-astro-edition I like the look and mixamp feature. Pretty good customer reviews too. They are supposed to be pretty comfortable for long sessions. Keyboard Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard RK-9000 with Cherry MX Blue Switch $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040 Mouse Razer DeathAdder $60 http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169416100/categoryId.35208800 Webcam Logitech C910 USB 2.0 1080p HD Pro Webcam $89 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104385 TOTAL: $1,893(Not counting taxes and shipping fees) Does the build seem balanced and solid? Any thoughts? Hmm, all seems good, why so expensive headphones? are you a sound fanatic? otherwise those headphones are pretty OTT | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
The u3s3 has sata 3 and usb 3 and some more other connectors such as a hdmi, dvi and 2 extra pci slots. The us3s3 allso has a better onboard soundcard and a 1gbit lan controler against 100mbit for the vs. Thats about it i think. [edit] The u3s3 allso uses better caps I think (not sure). | ||
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Nihilite
Netherlands61 Posts
I'm looking for advice into building a computer for the next-generation of games (skyrim and the like). Would it best to post my info (budget etc, answers to questions in original post etc) in this thread or make a new topic? I didn't really see wether it was standard to make a topic about it or whether this thread was used for that purpose. | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:17 RaKooNs wrote: Hmm, all seems good, why so expensive headphones? are you a sound fanatic? otherwise those headphones are pretty OTT It's not just headphones; it's a headset + (some say gimmicky) amp that allows you to connect multiple input sound sources and adjust the volume levels of each. If that feature is really desired and you want that in hardware, I don't really think there's an alternative aside from some pro audio consoles/mixers that are likely not that cheap and much larger anyway. It's definitely not the kind of product a sound fanatic would buy, since something cheaper would buy you higher sound quality and build quality. On October 25 2011 07:17 Madoga wrote: @xeo1 The u3s3 has sata 3 and usb 3 and some more other connectors such as a hdmi, dvi and 2 extra pci slots. The us3s3 allso has a better onboard soundcard and a 1gbit lan controler against 100mbit for the vs. Thats about it i think. [edit] The u3s3 allso uses better caps I think (not sure). Yeah the VS is using what appears to be some SamXon electrolytic capacitors (worse than the U3S3) outside of the voltage regulator circuit. That's not really a big deal either, but I guess if you have a hot graphics card exhausting air right back into the case, you could be heating up these non-critical capacitors somewhat, which is not a good thing if you're using medium-grade electrolytics. I don't think it's really a cause for concern though. It's much much more likely those will have no issue by the time you're ready to ditch the motherboard for an upgrade. Lots of ancient computers running still to this day, use similar electrolytics even in the voltage regulator circuit. I think that's it too. | ||
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Nihilite
Netherlands61 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:29 Madoga wrote: awnser the questions and post it in this thread. Allright so: My current pc is getting outdated (currently 3-4 years old I believe), it has trouble running deus ex: human revolution (for reference, it’s very choppy, barely playable, even after updating video card drivers), and I currently run SC2 on low graphics to avoid lagging in 3v3-4v4 multiplayer games (it handles 1v1 fine on medium+ settings). I’m a newbie when it comes to building computers, I’ve never searched for loose parts. So first off, my budget is around 800 euro. I intend to build the computer somewhere around next month if possible, I wouldn’t mind waiting 2 months if it means I could get some good benefit out of it. This budget is not set in stone for that reason, since christmas might increase my budget abit, if I could get a convincing argument to spend an extra 100 or whatever euro on it I’ll certainly consider. I want to get a new pc pretty much purely for gaming and streaming (want to be able to run new titles such as Skyrim smooth). I’m not sure how much is possible with my budget but I’d like to still be able to play games that come out next year aswell, I don’t intend on upgrading my pc within the next 2 years again. I currently have a 22’ lcd screen with a maximum resolution of 1680x1050. Don’t really intend on buying a new one. I have both windows XP and windows Vista OS available (both 32-bit). I think I also have a windows 7 available (otherwise I might be able to get this for a low cost – if this is vital please let me know and I’ll confirm whether or not I can get my hands on windows 7, don’t have to include it in the budget for now. Because I’m not an expert on computers I’m not necessarily looking into overclocking. Finally I live in Europe (Netherlands to be specific). This just noted for buying purposes – I’m not entirely sure which sites or stores would be best to look for prices on, any advice is appreciated once again. | ||
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xeo1
United States429 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:29 Myrmidon wrote: It's not just headphones; it's a headset + (some say gimmicky) amp that allows you to connect multiple input sound sources and adjust the volume levels of each. If that feature is really desired and you want that in hardware, I don't really think there's an alternative aside from some pro audio consoles/mixers that are likely not that cheap and much larger anyway. It's definitely not the kind of product a sound fanatic would buy, since something cheaper would buy you higher sound quality and build quality. Yeah the VS is using what appears to be some SamXon electrolytic capacitors (worse than the U3S3) outside of the voltage regulator circuit. That's not really a big deal either, but I guess if you have a hot graphics card exhausting air right back into the case, you could be heating up these non-critical capacitors somewhat, which is not a good thing if you're using medium-grade electrolytics. I don't think it's really a cause for concern though. It's much much more likely those will have no issue by the time you're ready to ditch the motherboard for an upgrade. Lots of ancient computers running still to this day, use similar electrolytics even in the voltage regulator circuit. I think that's it too. so would you personally buy the us3s instead? | ||
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tabbott26
United Kingdom379 Posts
Apparently my brother hijacked my accound a few months ago, with the intention of getting me a PC at a similar price, asked for this. He then got this answer (about half way down the post) I used pcpartpicker.com (really good for those in the UK!!) and got this. The only thing that is missing is the case, which you could get cheaper from outside of the website, which I got from here for less. Whaddya reckon?? I'm sorry I keep posting lots of potentially different builds, but it's because I just want to find something nice based off your recommendations and my wanting something too much!! | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
Do you want to run SLI/CF? My gues would be probably not. Overklokking is really with this cpu easy by the way and you can get an extra 30-40% out of the cpu. You'll probably end up with something like this: Asrock p67 pro3 80-90 euro i5 2500k ~180 euro Gelid tranquillo rev 2 26-28 euro 8gb ddr3 1333mhz cl9 memory 35-40 euro Some optical drive 5-20 euro HD6950 1gb 200-210 euro, Maybe a 6870 since you're running a low resolution ~150 euro A decent PSU such as Lepa w450-sa or a nexus value 430W ~50 euro A HDD Since the flooding of thailand these are fairly expensive its like 50-80 euro for 1tb (look for the spinpoint f3 or the WD caviar blue) Case (pick something you like) ??? euro Try getting a 64-bit operating system, prefably windows 7. Otherwise you wont be able to use 8gb of memory. At surfspot you can get it for fairly cheap(students and employees of certain companies) Some good online stores are Azerty, Afuture, Alternate, Zercom and 4Launch @Xea1 Depends what you want to do with it. If you are a very basic user the vs is fine. If you want usb3 or specificly need one of those other featues get the u3s3. | ||
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JonJLSSlack
United States84 Posts
So this christmas I'll be selling some junk I still own and getting some cash so I'll have enough for a new computer to play SC2 on. I'm getting two monitors from a friend that works at bestbuy at 50% discount and it's gunna be pretty sick. The only problem is my parents are divorced and I go back and forth on a weekly basis. I would need to move my mouse, keyboard, and tower every week (not monitors since I'll have two and moving those is too risky). I was wondering if there is any way to move a dekstop back and forth from house to house every week? Is it safe? | ||
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Nihilite
Netherlands61 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:57 Madoga wrote: Do you want to run SLI/CF? My gues would be probably not. Overklokking is really with this cpu easy by the way and you can get an extra 30-40% out of the cpu. You'll probably end up with something like this: Asrock p67 pro3 80-90 euro i5 2500k ~180 euro Gelid tranquillo rev 2 26-28 euro 8gb ddr3 1333mhz cl9 memory 35-40 euro Some optical drive 5-20 euro HD6950 1gb 200-210 euro, Maybe a 6870 since you're running a low resolution ~150 euro A decent PSU such as Lepa w450-sa or a nexus value 430W ~50 euro A HDD Since the flooding of thailand these are fairly expensive its like 50-80 euro for 1tb Case (pick something you like) ??? euro Try getting a 64-bit operating system, prefably windows 7. Otherwise you wont be able to use 8gb of memory. At surfspot you can get it for fairly cheap(students and employees of certain companies) Some good online stores are Azerty, Afuture, Alternate, Zercom and 4Launch @Xea1 Depends what you want to do with it. If you are a very basic user the vs is fine. If you want usb3 or specificly need one of those other featues get the u3s3. Thanks for the list. About the CrossFire/SLI, I don't really know how expensive it would be to use, and how much of an advantage it would be, but as you said I guess not since I doubt it would stay comfortably within budget. Are all windows 7 OS 64-bit btw? Or are there 32-bit versions aswell? I'll check out what I can get. | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:12 Nihilite wrote: Thanks for the list. About the CrossFire/SLI, I don't really know how expensive it would be to use, and how much of an advantage it would be, but as you said I guess not since I doubt it would stay comfortably within budget. Are all windows 7 OS 64-bit btw? Or are there 32-bit versions aswell? I'll check out what I can get. I would only suggest SLI/Crossfire to power users. | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:56 tabbott26 wrote: Me again. Apparently my brother hijacked my accound a few months ago, with the intention of getting me a PC at a similar price, asked for this. He then got this answer (about half way down the post) I used pcpartpicker.com (really good for those in the UK!!) and got this. The only thing that is missing is the case, which you could get cheaper from outside of the website, which I got from here for less. Whaddya reckon?? I'm sorry I keep posting lots of potentially different builds, but it's because I just want to find something nice based off your recommendations and my wanting something too much!! - That motherboard is not ideal for CF/SLI or for overclocking. - The cpu cooler makes a lot of noise and isnt very good for that price - "OCZ 700W" They dont even say which psu it is. My gues would be its the modxstream 700 which is not a very good PSU, so you should get another one. 500W for a single gtx 570 and 700-750W for SLI. Those wattages (if its a good one) allso leave plenty of room for overclocking. Look for sometihng like an xfx core 750W. Those should be pretty cheap and very good. [edit] As PSU for SLI 570 this: XFX P1-750B-NLG9 | ||
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Nihilite
Netherlands61 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:36 Medrea wrote: I would only suggest SLI/Crossfire to power users. Figured something like that. Anyway thanks for the advice so far! I quickly put madoga's list together + case on azerty and came down to 730 euro which seems quite nice. I'll still stick around and see if I can get some more advice regardless, since I want to take some time for my final decision. | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
 I'd take the xigmatek gaia there or, if you plan to push the overclocking (which I doubt) the thermalright hr-02 Macho. The Nexus value 430 is allso very expensive there if I remeber correctly. Though I dont know a proper alternative by heart, let me check. A cheap alternative is the Chieftec a80 450 or 500W. or the Corsair cx500 v2 On the other hand, nexus is a dutch company, so buying there stimulates the dutch economy :p plus its very very quiet (but seriously now, dont get it at 60 euro). | ||
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Nihilite
Netherlands61 Posts
Wrong one? Also found this https://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/1073/448128/lepa-n500-sa-eu-voeding-in.html But it's prolly not exactly what you meant, just remember quickly searching for lepa and that was the only option. Regardless I wanted a quick price check and that one was sort of in the price range you said so. | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
That gelid tranquillo is not the rev 2. The rev 2 cools (a lot) better. Moreover the Xigmatek gaia is cheaper, cools better and makes less noise, so just get that one at Azerty. You could try mailing azerty and ask them if they can get it for you. Since they have the normal one I think the chance is there that they can get it (or have it and just dont have it on the site). Inkoop@azerty.nl | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Its also shorter than most CPU coolers and the mounting system is a lot better than any of the ultracheap CPU coolers. Yeah I don't think it can do push/pull but that should matter too much if you aren't doing stupid overclocks. | ||
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