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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
tabbott26
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom379 Posts
October 25 2011 01:09 GMT
#13701
On October 25 2011 08:36 Madoga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 07:56 tabbott26 wrote:
Me again.

Apparently my brother hijacked my accound a few months ago, with the intention of getting me a PC at a similar price, asked for this. He then got this answer (about half way down the post)

I used pcpartpicker.com (really good for those in the UK!!) and got this. The only thing that is missing is the case, which you could get cheaper from outside of the website, which I got from here for less. Whaddya reckon??

I'm sorry I keep posting lots of potentially different builds, but it's because I just want to find something nice based off your recommendations and my wanting something too much!!


- That motherboard is not ideal for CF/SLI or for overclocking.
- The cpu cooler makes a lot of noise and isnt very good for that price
- "OCZ 700W" They dont even say which psu it is. My gues would be its the modxstream 700 which is not a very good PSU, so you should get another one. 500W for a single gtx 570 and 700-750W for SLI. Those wattages (if its a good one) allso leave plenty of room for overclocking. Look for sometihng like an xfx core 750W. Those should be pretty cheap and very good.

[edit]
As PSU for SLI 570 this: XFX P1-750B-NLG9


How about this then?? What I'll probably do is order them from different retailers, I know I can get them for less, that's just a place to keep them all...
EGHuK - EGIdra - EGDeMuslim - MVPGenius - Liquid'Sheth - ROOTKiwikaki
JonJLSSlack
Profile Joined February 2011
United States84 Posts
October 25 2011 02:01 GMT
#13702
On October 25 2011 07:58 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Not so much a hardware question but still computer related.

So this christmas I'll be selling some junk I still own and getting some cash so I'll have enough for a new computer to play SC2 on. I'm getting two monitors from a friend that works at bestbuy at 50% discount and it's gunna be pretty sick. The only problem is my parents are divorced and I go back and forth on a weekly basis. I would need to move my mouse, keyboard, and tower every week (not monitors since I'll have two and moving those is too risky). I was wondering if there is any way to move a dekstop back and forth from house to house every week? Is it safe?



Help please?
tabbott26
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 02:03:57
October 25 2011 02:03 GMT
#13703
On October 25 2011 11:01 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 07:58 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Not so much a hardware question but still computer related.

So this christmas I'll be selling some junk I still own and getting some cash so I'll have enough for a new computer to play SC2 on. I'm getting two monitors from a friend that works at bestbuy at 50% discount and it's gunna be pretty sick. The only problem is my parents are divorced and I go back and forth on a weekly basis. I would need to move my mouse, keyboard, and tower every week (not monitors since I'll have two and moving those is too risky). I was wondering if there is any way to move a dekstop back and forth from house to house every week? Is it safe?



Help please?


It depends on the size of the desktop and what's in it to be honest. Could you elaborate?
EGHuK - EGIdra - EGDeMuslim - MVPGenius - Liquid'Sheth - ROOTKiwikaki
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 25 2011 02:17 GMT
#13704
On October 25 2011 07:58 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Not so much a hardware question but still computer related.

So this christmas I'll be selling some junk I still own and getting some cash so I'll have enough for a new computer to play SC2 on. I'm getting two monitors from a friend that works at bestbuy at 50% discount and it's gunna be pretty sick. The only problem is my parents are divorced and I go back and forth on a weekly basis. I would need to move my mouse, keyboard, and tower every week (not monitors since I'll have two and moving those is too risky). I was wondering if there is any way to move a dekstop back and forth from house to house every week? Is it safe?



It should be mostly okay. Just (1) avoid using a large tower CPU heatsink, (2) use something with a reasonably secure expansion card slot retention mechanism that may actually hold the graphics card in place, (3) don't use flimsy tool-less hard drive and optical drive mounts, and (4) try to transport the case with motherboard side down. You can take out the graphics card every time you move, if you're worried about how secure it really is in practice.

For size and weight concerns, maybe you should try using say a Silverstone SG05 or SG06 when the time comes. You can fit a decent build in there.

On October 25 2011 10:09 tabbott26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 08:36 Madoga wrote:
On October 25 2011 07:56 tabbott26 wrote:
Me again.

Apparently my brother hijacked my accound a few months ago, with the intention of getting me a PC at a similar price, asked for this. He then got this answer (about half way down the post)

I used pcpartpicker.com (really good for those in the UK!!) and got this. The only thing that is missing is the case, which you could get cheaper from outside of the website, which I got from here for less. Whaddya reckon??

I'm sorry I keep posting lots of potentially different builds, but it's because I just want to find something nice based off your recommendations and my wanting something too much!!


- That motherboard is not ideal for CF/SLI or for overclocking.
- The cpu cooler makes a lot of noise and isnt very good for that price
- "OCZ 700W" They dont even say which psu it is. My gues would be its the modxstream 700 which is not a very good PSU, so you should get another one. 500W for a single gtx 570 and 700-750W for SLI. Those wattages (if its a good one) allso leave plenty of room for overclocking. Look for sometihng like an xfx core 750W. Those should be pretty cheap and very good.

[edit]
As PSU for SLI 570 this: XFX P1-750B-NLG9


How about this then?? What I'll probably do is order them from different retailers, I know I can get them for less, that's just a place to keep them all...


I don't think the H60 got any better in the past day. GTX 570 still isn't good price/performance, but I think you know both those two things. I forget if that RAM kit has the tall heatspreaders or not, but if they do, you maybe don't want them. Aside from that, nothing really to say.
LocusCoeruleus
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway32 Posts
October 25 2011 02:30 GMT
#13705
On October 25 2011 11:01 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 07:58 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Not so much a hardware question but still computer related.

So this christmas I'll be selling some junk I still own and getting some cash so I'll have enough for a new computer to play SC2 on. I'm getting two monitors from a friend that works at bestbuy at 50% discount and it's gunna be pretty sick. The only problem is my parents are divorced and I go back and forth on a weekly basis. I would need to move my mouse, keyboard, and tower every week (not monitors since I'll have two and moving those is too risky). I was wondering if there is any way to move a dekstop back and forth from house to house every week? Is it safe?



Help please?


I've been moving my computer between my parants house every week for at least 5 years, without that ever being a problem. If it was possible though, I'd propose living 2 weeks at each house. I found that to be less stressful personally and you get really tired of moving your computer after a while.

I've got a question though. I'm an exchange student in USA and my big laptop just broke down. My computer back home is getting rather old and electronics is really cheap here so I wanna buy a stationary computer to replace my old.
Do any of you know where I can get a screen really cheap? I'm not going to bring it back home anyways.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
BetaWolf
Profile Joined June 2011
United States39 Posts
October 25 2011 02:49 GMT
#13706
this is a build for a friend.

What is your budget?
$700

What is your resolution?
1440 x 900

What are you using it for?
streaming sc at 720

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 yrs


When do you plan on building it?
asap

Do you plan on overclocking?
no

Do you need an Operating System?
no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no

Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg

if possible he would like a ssd.
mason84m
Profile Joined October 2011
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 03:05:56
October 25 2011 02:59 GMT
#13707
What is your budget?
$700-800, willing to spend a little extra if gains are worth it

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming (BF3, SC2, Skyrim, Witcher, Crysis 2) at high settings preferably

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years, maybe add a few parts over the years but not planning to build another pc anytime soon after this one

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes but nothing crazy, most likely just pushing the 2500K to low 4's with the stock heatsink fan

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online retailers that ship in the US, so most likely Newegg lol

Here's a possible build:

CPU
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Motherboard
ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 $119.99 ($109.99 with rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

RAM
G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

GPU
GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) $219.99 ($199.99 with rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401

PSU
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

HDD
HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.D $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145533

Total (including shipping) = $799.02

Notes:
- I was going to go with the Samsung F3 as my HDD but for some reason, I'm unable to add it to the Newegg shopping list and it seems it has gone up in price.
- I'm not that knowledgeable with PSU's but it seemed like a good price for a good product.

Thanks for spending the time to review this build and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 03:24:29
October 25 2011 03:21 GMT
#13708
On October 25 2011 11:59 mason84m wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
$700-800, willing to spend a little extra if gains are worth it

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming (BF3, SC2, Skyrim, Witcher, Crysis 2) at high settings preferably

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years, maybe add a few parts over the years but not planning to build another pc anytime soon after this one

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes but nothing crazy, most likely just pushing the 2500K to low 4's with the stock heatsink fan

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online retailers that ship in the US, so most likely Newegg lol

Here's a possible build:

CPU
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $219.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Motherboard
ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 $119.99 ($109.99 with rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

RAM
G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

GPU
GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) $219.99 ($199.99 with rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401

PSU
Antec NEO ECO 520C 520W $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

HDD
HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.D $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145533

Total (including shipping) = $799.02

Notes:
- I was going to go with the Samsung F3 as my HDD but for some reason, I'm unable to add it to the Newegg shopping list and it seems it has gone up in price.
- I'm not that knowledgeable with PSU's but it seemed like a good price for a good product.

Thanks for spending the time to review this build and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


It's a good configuration. You just want to add an aftermarket heatsink such as the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ or Xigmatek Gaia to it for overclocking purposes.

HDD prices have gone up due to the shortage caused by the flooding in Thailand. Prices and availability probably won't stabilize until the new year.

Some components are less expensive at NCIX so you may want to check there before making your purchase: http://us.ncix.com/promo/?webid=USWickedSale2011
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 25 2011 03:55 GMT
#13709
On October 25 2011 11:49 Killamancer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
this is a build for a friend.

What is your budget?
$700

What is your resolution?
1440 x 900

What are you using it for?
streaming sc at 720

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 yrs


When do you plan on building it?
asap

Do you plan on overclocking?
no

Do you need an Operating System?
no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no

Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg

if possible he would like a ssd.


Something like this for $567 without an HDD, I'd advise using an external or an older HDD in the meantime until HDD prices go back down unless you don't care about purchasing them at these insane prices right now:

You'll probably want to check NCIX as well as some components tend to have a lower price over there. This week's sale: http://us.ncix.com/promo/?webid=USWickedSale2011 , next week's sale will be available on Wednesday evening.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Sapphire Radeon HD5670 @ $70 ($55 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102930

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $45 ($35 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Crucial M4 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

DVD Burner @ $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

Xigmatek Asgard II @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
+ Show Spoiler +
or you can pick a more expensive nicer case
DONTPANIC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States340 Posts
October 25 2011 04:01 GMT
#13710
On October 25 2011 11:01 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 07:58 SLenDeRlol wrote:
Not so much a hardware question but still computer related.

So this christmas I'll be selling some junk I still own and getting some cash so I'll have enough for a new computer to play SC2 on. I'm getting two monitors from a friend that works at bestbuy at 50% discount and it's gunna be pretty sick. The only problem is my parents are divorced and I go back and forth on a weekly basis. I would need to move my mouse, keyboard, and tower every week (not monitors since I'll have two and moving those is too risky). I was wondering if there is any way to move a dekstop back and forth from house to house every week? Is it safe?



Help please?



They make those cool LAN cases with handles and secure insitde parts too!
The universe is big. Really big.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 25 2011 04:09 GMT
#13711
On October 25 2011 12:55 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 11:49 Killamancer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
this is a build for a friend.

What is your budget?
$700

What is your resolution?
1440 x 900

What are you using it for?
streaming sc at 720

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 yrs


When do you plan on building it?
asap

Do you plan on overclocking?
no

Do you need an Operating System?
no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no

Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg

if possible he would like a ssd.


+ Show Spoiler +
Something like this for $567 without an HDD, I'd advise using an external or an older HDD in the meantime until HDD prices go back down unless you don't care about purchasing them at these insane prices right now:

You'll probably want to check NCIX as well as some components tend to have a lower price over there. This week's sale: http://us.ncix.com/promo/?webid=USWickedSale2011 , next week's sale will be available on Wednesday evening.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Sapphire Radeon HD5670 @ $70 ($55 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102930
+ Show Spoiler +

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $45 ($35 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Crucial M4 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

DVD Burner @ $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

Xigmatek Asgard II @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
+ Show Spoiler +
or you can pick a more expensive nicer case




I don't know, 1440x900 isn't that small, at 62.5% of 1920x1080, so it's not super easy on a HD 5670 (with DDR3, no less). I think $40 more for a HD 6770 is worth the extra.

As skyR said, hard drive prices are up, but I don't think $10-20 extra warrants postponing a purchase. It's up but not ridiculously high. It's up to you if that's worth it.
Europa
Profile Joined March 2011
11 Posts
October 25 2011 05:01 GMT
#13712
I'm looking to upgrade my current computer after winning 2 Nvidia GTX 480's at Blizzcon...
First of all, can anyone tell me how much I'm bottlenecking the GTX 480's with an AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE?

Anyways, onto the real question, for CPU's, I'm currently looking at the i7 2600k, i5 2500k, and AMD Phenom II X6 1100T. Which would be the bare minimum to run the GTX 480's without completely bottlenecking them? I'd be overclocking any processor however much it takes to get the most out of the GPU's (hopefully ~4 GHz). Is the i5 2500k going to be bottlenecking the cards enough to make buying the i7 2600k worthwhile? I've heard that the 1100T would bottleneck the cards even with serious overclocking, is this true? I'd like to spend as little money as possible (buying the 1100T would mean I don't need to buy a new motherboard and sell the one I currently have, so that's my main reason for keeping it as an option), but I'm really leaning the Intel route because of their incredible quality (plus I've found a reasonable cost for both the i5 2500k and the i7 2600k).

Also, here are the costs for the component's I'd need to purchase to make the builds work:
i5 2500k ~ $280
i7 2600k ~ $380
Phenom II X6 1100T ~ $190

Thanks in advance for the help!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 25 2011 05:06 GMT
#13713
Bottleneck depends on what you're talking about... gaming does not make use of six threads provided by the Phenom II X6 and certainly does not make use of the eight threads provided by the core i7 2600k. So the bottleneck would still lie in your GPUs or the clock speed of your processor.

Upgrading from a Phenom II X4 955 to X6 1100T for anything is basically a waste of money.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 25 2011 05:10 GMT
#13714
I would just sell one GTX 480, before the value drops any more (like when GPUs go down to 28 nm process soon).

As mentioned above, bottlenecking depends on what you're running. If you're gaming, you could upgrade to a i5-2500k, but it's probably not worth it yet unless your CPU is really holding you back in some game.
Europa
Profile Joined March 2011
11 Posts
October 25 2011 05:39 GMT
#13715
On October 25 2011 14:10 Myrmidon wrote:
I would just sell one GTX 480, before the value drops any more (like when GPUs go down to 28 nm process soon).

As mentioned above, bottlenecking depends on what you're running. If you're gaming, you could upgrade to a i5-2500k, but it's probably not worth it yet unless your CPU is really holding you back in some game.


Well I'm gonna be playing Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Diablo 3, etc when they're released, along with Starcraft (which I realize doesn't support multiple cores or SLI), but even in Starcraft my FPS seems to drop at times when big battles occur (even with the 480...) which leads me to believe that the problem lies in my CPU. I turned on SLI to get the SLI indicator (it hinders SC performance but it was to give me an indication of how much the GPU's were actually working in reference to the framerate performance) and the GPU's barely had to work at all, yet the framerates tended to drop when I felt they shouldn't be dropping...

I know the Phenom X6 wouldn't help in dual core games (like SC) but I'm sure eventually games may support six cores. That reason, however, is why I was leaning towards the i5 and i7, because they are quad cores that perform much better.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 25 2011 05:46 GMT
#13716
By the time games support six cores, all the processors currently available will be beyond obsolete.

Starcraft II isn't graphic intensive at all and is heavily dependent on the CPU. Upgrading to a 2500k will help since its IPC is much higher than that of a second generation Phenom.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 25 2011 05:54 GMT
#13717
Well yeah, if you're not satisfied with SC2 performance, then by all means go ahead with a i5-2500k. Just don't get a Phenom II X6, whatever you do.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
October 25 2011 06:02 GMT
#13718
The spinpoint F3 1tb Harddrive is going up in price and out of stock on Newegg. What's a good alternative for a 1tb drive to complement a SSD boot drive? And will a 5400 compared to a 7200 be much of a difference on the drive?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 25 2011 06:07 GMT
#13719
For storage and secondary software, speed doesn't matter. Seagate Barracuda 1TB is at $65: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
SleepTech
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October 25 2011 06:12 GMT
#13720
On October 25 2011 15:07 skyR wrote:
For storage and secondary software, speed doesn't matter. Seagate Barracuda 1TB is at $65: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697


Yea, I was lookin at that but didn't know how good it would be compared to samsung. Will I need extra SATA 6.0gb cables or will 3.0 cables work in a SATA 3.0gb?
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