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Cronosc2
Germany108 Posts
On October 24 2011 03:02 Cronosc2 wrote: is that rly good for sc2 and d3 maxed ? :D sounds very cheap though  can i actually go for http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30087&agid=1300 and the 6770 or is it not worth it anymore ? | ||
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Cronosc2
Germany108 Posts
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chocopaw
2072 Posts
On July 09 2011 20:15 chocopaw wrote: Hello! I'm helping a friend to buy a new desktop pc. It would be kind if you could say something about this setup, give suggestions etc. http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=WL-164566 The list is in german, but I think that should be no problem, right? Power supply is already at hand. It mainly will be used for playing SC2, civ5, maybe Diablo3 or stuff like that, not super highend shooters. + Show Spoiler + We thought about adding more ram, 6-8GB, just to make multitasking more enjoyable (e.g. watching streams while running sc), but I've been told that that doesn't make much sense, is that right? Oh, and would we need additional cooling or does the inclusive suffice? (already resolved) Thx in advance. =) Hi! I posted this a while ago as you can see, and I'm coming back now because the purchase of the computer got delayed. So I wanna know if the list is still okay or if there are any new cool deals available. Especially regarding the mainboard and graphics card advise would be much appreciated because I have very little knowledge about which version is the best there. Thanks again! | ||
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Cubbieblue66
95 Posts
 Late this summer, all of you helped me put together my new computer (which is working great, by the way). Well, after seeing how easy it was to assemble my own computer as well as how much cheaper it is, my dad has asked me for help with putting together one for himself. I gladly said I would help. And then it got complicated pretty quickly. He wants a Mac. And a good one at that. I know there are ways to install Mac OS on a custom built pc. But I have no idea what goes into it. And based off the specs he gave me after custom building his preferred Mac on the website, I'm also wondering how on earth one installs 2 CPUs Anybody have any experience with either issue? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On October 24 2011 04:50 chocopaw wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On July 09 2011 20:15 chocopaw wrote: Hello! I'm helping a friend to buy a new desktop pc. It would be kind if you could say something about this setup, give suggestions etc. http://geizhals.at/eu/?cat=WL-164566 The list is in german, but I think that should be no problem, right? Power supply is already at hand. It mainly will be used for playing SC2, civ5, maybe Diablo3 or stuff like that, not super highend shooters. + Show Spoiler + We thought about adding more ram, 6-8GB, just to make multitasking more enjoyable (e.g. watching streams while running sc), but I've been told that that doesn't make much sense, is that right? Oh, and would we need additional cooling or does the inclusive suffice? (already resolved) Thx in advance. =) Hi! I posted this a while ago as you can see, and I'm coming back now because the purchase of the computer got delayed. So I wanna know if the list is still okay or if there are any new cool deals available. Especially regarding the mainboard and graphics card advise would be much appreciated because I have very little knowledge about which version is the best there. Thanks again! Purchasing any AMD processor is a poor decision when the computer will be used primarily for gaming. I think this was already said previously when you asked for advice back in July... You are better off with a Pentium G840 / 850 / 860 and a H61 / H67 motherboard. Same price, much better gaming performance. On October 24 2011 04:51 Cubbieblue66 wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hello again all! Late this summer, all of you helped me put together my new computer (which is working great, by the way). Well, after seeing how easy it was to assemble my own computer as well as how much cheaper it is, my dad has asked me for help with putting together one for himself. I gladly said I would help. And then it got complicated pretty quickly. He wants a Mac. And a good one at that. I know there are ways to install Mac OS on a custom built pc. But I have no idea what goes into it. And based off the specs he gave me after custom building his preferred Mac on the website, I'm also wondering how on earth one installs 2 CPUs Anybody have any experience with either issue? See this for a list of compatible components: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page To have two CPUs, you're looking at a server motherboard which are quite expensive. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
What does he need 2 CPU's for? I am having a really hard time imagining why you would run a server architecture with macintosh when windows and linux are generally so much better. | ||
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
I don't even understand, I wouldn't spend that much money on a Hackintosh, if at all. | ||
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Cubbieblue66
95 Posts
As to the whole 2 CPU thing, he doesn't need it. He uses his computer mostly for web browsing, spreadsheets, and as storage for all the stuff he buys on itunes to watch on the Apple TVs he has set up in the house. He sometimes runs Parallels on his Mac right now to access a Windows version of Quicken, but that's probably the most stressful thing his computer ever does. But the power of his computer is kind of a dick wagging competition with his best friend, so it'll be hard to talk him out of it now that he knows its a possibility. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
It seems like he doesn't need any processing power after all. Tell him that awesome specs are a total waste if not used, which he won't. If he wants to run OS X, may as well get one of those iMacs. Then he can dick wag about the nice IPS screen, which actually makes an impression in day-to-day use, unlike a fast processor that is never stressed or something like that. | ||
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Cubbieblue66
95 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Cubbieblue66
95 Posts
Thanks for all the help. I'll need it when trying to explain why this isn't a good idea... he's a stubborn sort. | ||
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chocopaw
2072 Posts
On October 24 2011 05:02 skyR wrote: Purchasing any AMD processor is a poor decision when the computer will be used primarily for gaming. I think this was already said previously when you asked for advice back in July... You are better off with a Pentium G840 / 850 / 860 and a H61 / H67 motherboard. Same price, much better gaming performance. Thanks. I heard that Intel is better for gaming right now, but because the hardware in this case is already a bit older I thought that wouldn't be applicable here. Just sounds really counter-intuitive that a duocore is better than a quadcore. <.< All the other components would fit on that motherboard as well I take it? What would be the best combination? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 24 2011 06:15 chocopaw wrote: Thanks. I heard that Intel is better for gaming right now, but because the hardware in this case is already a bit older I thought that wouldn't be applicable here. Just sounds really counter-intuitive that a duocore is better than a quadcore. <.< All the other components would fit on that motherboard as well I take it? What would be the best combination? Athlon II x4 is literally trash and per-core performance is what's important to most users, not the amount of cores. Get a pentium Gxxx and H61 combination or something for that price | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 24 2011 06:15 chocopaw wrote: Thanks. I heard that Intel is better for gaming right now, but because the hardware in this case is already a bit older I thought that wouldn't be applicable here. Just sounds really counter-intuitive that a duocore is better than a quadcore. <.< All the other components would fit on that motherboard as well I take it? What would be the best combination? Only thing that needs to be changed is the CPU and motherboard (also anything else if there's a better deal). Everything else is compatible, except that you're missing a power supply. It's not that the newer Pentiums are always faster than an Athlon II X4, but they are if not all four cores of the X4 are being fully used. And that's what happens in most all games. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 24 2011 05:25 Cubbieblue66 wrote: Thanks for the link,skyR. As to the whole 2 CPU thing, he doesn't need it. He uses his computer mostly for web browsing, spreadsheets, and as storage for all the stuff he buys on itunes to watch on the Apple TVs he has set up in the house. He sometimes runs Parallels on his Mac right now to access a Windows version of Quicken, but that's probably the most stressful thing his computer ever does. But the power of his computer is kind of a dick wagging competition with his best friend, so it'll be hard to talk him out of it now that he knows its a possibility. If your dad is this big of an idiot (sorry but it is true). Then just tell him to give you $12,000 and build him a 400 dollar computer, just tell him it has whatever in it. You can EASILY get a prebuilt mac for that much so he probably wouldn't be none the wiser. I mean seriously, a dick waving contest? With a Macintosh? That is beyond idiot. | ||
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chocopaw
2072 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 24 2011 06:56 chocopaw wrote: Regarding multicores: In the HotS techpanel Q&A at blizzcon somebody asked if they are looking towards triple- and quadcore optimization and the answer sounded pretty much like yes if I remember correctly. Would that be something to consider? Nope, not even a little bit. SC2 is all about having a lot of units that need to constantly check there pathing and the like. This is ALL about the CPU. GPU is mostly meaningless once you hit a certain point, and we're already at that point. Any decent single card setup will force the CPU to be the bottleneck. | ||
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FinBenton
Finland870 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 24 2011 06:59 Medrea wrote: Nope, not even a little bit. SC2 is all about having a lot of units that need to constantly check there pathing and the like. This is ALL about the CPU. GPU is mostly meaningless once you hit a certain point, and we're already at that point. Any decent single card setup will force the CPU to be the bottleneck. ^ missing the point It might, I'm not sure. i5 2400 could become the recommended CPU but... it already is as long as the budget allows it. btw having a dick measure contest with a mac is like having a speedrace with ladas | ||
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