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SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 05:37:31
October 23 2011 05:33 GMT
#13561
Ok, its time I bought the rest of my components for my new computer.

I have a case, 500 antec psu, and 4 sticks of 1333 ram. Also have win7

I need a motherboard with usb 3, 560 ti, i5-2400, 64 gb ssd, and 1 tb hd.

Basic need is SCII, WOW, minecraft, Swtor, and photoshop, programming. Resolution 1080p
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 23 2011 06:22 GMT
#13562
It sounds like you have everything selected already so what do you need help with?

Pick a H61 or H67 motherboard with USB3. A good option is the Asrock H61M U3S3.

Pick the least expensive GTX 560 Ti of your preferred brand.

Core i5 2400.

Crucial M4 64gb.

Wait until HDD prices go back down.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
October 23 2011 06:39 GMT
#13563
On October 23 2011 15:22 skyR wrote:
It sounds like you have everything selected already so what do you need help with?

Pick a H61 or H67 motherboard with USB3. A good option is the Asrock H61M U3S3.

Pick the least expensive GTX 560 Ti of your preferred brand.

Core i5 2400.

Crucial M4 64gb.

Wait until HDD prices go back down.


My main thing was just looking for deals, you guys have a nack for finding amazing deals. I have an idea about things but if I can save $50 or so then thats helpful.

jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
October 23 2011 08:46 GMT
#13564
AFAIK, I don't know any places that have any of those on sale right now. You could try looking for a micro center in your area for a cheap i5 2400.

And signing on slickdeals/dealcatcher for deal alerts for the rest of the stuff.
tabbott26
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 14:06:32
October 23 2011 13:58 GMT
#13565
Hi there! I'm looking for a new PC, and was wondering if you could assist?

  • I'm in the UK.
  • My budget is around £900, but would prefer it if I could spend less
  • I would use the computer for SC2 (naturally) and would like it as high graphics as possible, Battlefield 3, MW3 (all on higher kinds of graphics if possible) and some older games like MW2 and Halo CE.
  • I would also do some streaming, most likely console games though, so I would need a capture card (VGA one would be good). Might do a bit of video editing, but nothing too strenuous, just stuff like Skype, iTunes and watching HD media.
  • I have a pair of turtle beach headphones, so will need an optical sound output. A few USB 3.0 ports are needed too, but I believe most motherboards come with some now.
  • I'd prefer an SSD, but you guys know what you're doing, so I'll leave it with you!
  • I already know my case (NZXT Lexa S), and have a monitor and a mouse, but not a decent keyboard. Any tips??

I think that's all, any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you very much!

EDIT: I was at the London technology fair yesterday, and a guy from Gigabyte recommended this motherboard - The Z68AP-D3. Does this work with my case or is something else needed??
EGHuK - EGIdra - EGDeMuslim - MVPGenius - Liquid'Sheth - ROOTKiwikaki
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 23 2011 14:07 GMT
#13566
On October 23 2011 14:19 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 09:05 Shauni wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:46 Womwomwom wrote:
On October 23 2011 08:18 Shauni wrote:
I don't think so? Maybe I had Opera in the background, but it'd seem unlikely to happen because of that..


Hardware acceleration is what generally causes AMD's drivers to shit their pants. PowerPlay has three states it runs in. The second state, where the GPU is being used but isn't being stressed, is broken. The memory in this state is clocked far too low (we're talking about 100mhz low), so it crashes when ever its being used in this state.


My own computer has run one of the 6950 for a long time though with lots of different multitasking applications and the same drivers without any issue whatsoever... I think it might be related to the CF, but I'm not sure what's making it crash.


The permanent fix is in the BIOS level I believe so that might be why your card doesn't shit its pants. Its a commonly reported issue so I think it might be worth a try. All of those AMD cards that crash while running Flash can fix this problem by creating a profile, with the correct memory values, within Catalyst.

To be certain its the incorrect memory value, you create a new Catalyst profile, find the text file for that profile (its in C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\Profiles), and check the given memory values. PowerPlay will have three states and for cards that crash often, its generally missing a whole digit or something stupid. Needless to say, changing the memory clock to something sensible will generally solve the issue.

This also solves the flickering dual monitor ATI Overdrive issue as well. Of course it could be something else but its still worth checking out regardless because it solves a lot of issues AMD cards tend to have.



<Profile>
<Caste name="Graphics">
<Groups/>
<Adapter name="PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_6719&SUBSYS_31211682&REV_00_4&7768020&0&0008A"/>
</Caste>
<Caste name="Platform">
<Groups/>
<Adapter name="PlatformAdapterUDID"/>
</Caste>
</Profile>

How will I know whether that's incorrect or not?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 14:30:43
October 23 2011 14:29 GMT
#13567
By the way here's an interesting 6990 bench:

+ Show Spoiler +

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I at least haven't ever seen a bench like this, and this might actually be relatively useful for the people considering a 6990, rather than the 1080p benches. An interesting thing to me is that it scales really well with AAing until a certain point when it just stops working alltogether.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
October 23 2011 16:34 GMT
#13568
+ Show Spoiler +
XFX Radeon HD6770 @ $110 ($90 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150540

This is capable of playing the game on ultra at 1080p so ya this is overkill of a graphics card if you don't plan on upgrading your monitor anytime soon.


i bought a new computer monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009341

that gpu is alright right? already bought it but i went back and realized you put that spoiler ^. jw -.-
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2011 16:48 GMT
#13569
6770 for 1080p? Yeah it's allright if you don't really care about maxing graphics everywhere or maxing antialiasing everywhere. It's slightly over 50% as good as GTX 560 Ti or 6950.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 23 2011 16:57 GMT
#13570
On October 23 2011 15:39 SleepTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 15:22 skyR wrote:
It sounds like you have everything selected already so what do you need help with?

Pick a H61 or H67 motherboard with USB3. A good option is the Asrock H61M U3S3.

Pick the least expensive GTX 560 Ti of your preferred brand.

Core i5 2400.

Crucial M4 64gb.

Wait until HDD prices go back down.


My main thing was just looking for deals, you guys have a nack for finding amazing deals. I have an idea about things but if I can save $50 or so then thats helpful.



There usually isn't any deals on H61 / H67 boards because they're already pretty inexpensive as is.

Also, the core i5 2400 doesn't get much deals either. You'll see a promo code on Newegg from time to time but it happens much less than it does with other processors. The core i5 2500k is $190 which is the same price as the 2400 from Newegg: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1208 The core i5 2320 is $175 which is 100MHz slower than the 2400: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63959&promoid=1208

Crucial M4 64gb sometimes goes on shellshocker and that's a either you know about it or it's over when you find out. I've only seen the 128gb go on sale for $170 in Canada which happened twice, a few weeks ago.

GTX 560 Ti goes on sale from time to time but there aren't any good ones atm that I know of. There was a EVGAGTX 560 Ti -AR for $220 a few weeks ago.
deathbringer829
Profile Joined May 2011
United States10 Posts
October 23 2011 17:20 GMT
#13571
ok so im thinking about building my own computer. turns out to be around 609 dollars for this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


sorry for the quality. may have to zoom in with your browser.


let me know what you guys think i would really appreciate it thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 23 2011 17:24 GMT
#13572
On October 24 2011 02:20 deathbringer829 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
ok so im thinking about building my own computer. turns out to be around 609 dollars for this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


sorry for the quality. may have to zoom in with your browser.


let me know what you guys think i would really appreciate it thanks!


It's a bad build.

You have a second generation Phenom processor which is shit in comparison to Intel's offerings.

You have a 750w power supply but your motherboard is not capable of SLI, you won't even reach 50% of its capacity. Not to mention Hec isn't that great...

The difference between 1600MHz and 1333MHz is negligible. To waste money on memory before your other components which give a greater increase in performance is not a wise decision.

Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 17:49:50
October 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#13573
can maybe anyone help me with choosing the right parts or a complete new pc

os is not needed and atm i play at 1650x1050

so i just want to play mainly sc2 and d3 on maxed settings as cheap as possible ...
im confused by all the different parts if they match with each other
maybe someone can help me

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 17:39:15
October 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#13574
On October 23 2011 22:58 tabbott26 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi there! I'm looking for a new PC, and was wondering if you could assist?

  • I'm in the UK.
  • My budget is around £900, but would prefer it if I could spend less
  • I would use the computer for SC2 (naturally) and would like it as high graphics as possible, Battlefield 3, MW3 (all on higher kinds of graphics if possible) and some older games like MW2 and Halo CE.
  • I would also do some streaming, most likely console games though, so I would need a capture card (VGA one would be good). Might do a bit of video editing, but nothing too strenuous, just stuff like Skype, iTunes and watching HD media.
  • I have a pair of turtle beach headphones, so will need an optical sound output. A few USB 3.0 ports are needed too, but I believe most motherboards come with some now.
  • I'd prefer an SSD, but you guys know what you're doing, so I'll leave it with you!
  • I already know my case (NZXT Lexa S), and have a monitor and a mouse, but not a decent keyboard. Any tips??

I think that's all, any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you very much!

EDIT: I was at the London technology fair yesterday, and a guy from Gigabyte recommended this motherboard - The Z68AP-D3. Does this work with my case or is something else needed??


I'm not from the UK or Europe. Here's a quick overclockable build from Amazon that totals to £674 (without a capture card, I don't know anything about capture cards so can't recommend any) capable of playing the games on reasonably high settings. This is only to give you an idea of what you should be looking for. Someone else familiar with the UK should be able to help you better knowing the pricing and retailers.

If you want Nvidia instead than switch to a GTX 560 Ti. If you want to do a multi-GPU configuration than switch to an Asrock Extreme series of boards or another board capable of doing so. If you're doing a multi-GPU configuration, you'll want a ~650w power supply (XFX, Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, and some others are names you should look for).

You can switch to a 128gb Crucial M4 if you want.


Intel Core i5 2500k @ £170
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500K-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NX2/

XFX Radeon HD6950 1GB @ £184
http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-Dual-Link-Mini-DisplayPort-Graphics/dp/B004LB5AT0

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ £36
http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-DDR3-1333-CL9-0-Dual/dp/B004G8KCGO

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ £86
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asrock-P67-PRO3-1155-Motherboard/dp/B004R9PCNK/

XFX Core Edition Pro @ £43
http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-450W-Power-Supply-Unit/dp/B005TDRHV8

Crucial M4 64GB @ £79
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT064M4Solid-State-Drive2-Solid/dp/B004W2JKWG

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ £51
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SpinPoint-F3-Desktop-HD103SJ-SATA-300/dp/B002YXX6ES

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ £25
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-Plus/dp/B002G1YPH0
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 17:45:45
October 23 2011 17:43 GMT
#13575
On October 24 2011 02:20 deathbringer829 wrote:
ok so im thinking about building my own computer. turns out to be around 609 dollars for this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


sorry for the quality. may have to zoom in with your browser.


let me know what you guys think i would really appreciate it thanks!


Motherboard:
BIOSTAR H61MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340
54.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
189.99$

Graphics Card:
HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
164.99$

RAM:
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
23.49$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
XIGMATEK Asgard II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
29.99$

Power Supply:
Antec Neo Eco 520W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
54.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $590.42$


Outdated but replace with equivalent parts of equivalent prices if necessary. Like currently this graphics card would be a good buy:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378

Also see if ncix or others have better pricing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 23 2011 17:47 GMT
#13576
On October 24 2011 02:35 Cronosc2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
can maybe anyone help me with choosing the right parts or a complete new pc

os is not needed and atm i play at 1650x1024

so i just want to play mainly sc2 and d3 on maxed settings as cheap as possible ...
im confused by all the different parts if they match with each other
maybe someone can help me


You didn't specify a budget.

If you're looking for the least inexpensive configuration that's main purpose will be playing Starcraft II and Diablo III on max settings at 1650x1050. You'll be looking at something like

Pentium G840 / G850 / G860
some H61 motherboard such as the Asrock H61M-VS
a Radeon HD6670 / 6670 or similar card
some ~400w power supply such as the Corsair CX430 V2 or Antec Earthwatts Green 380D
some inexpensive case
some 500gb HDD
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 17:52:03
October 23 2011 17:49 GMT
#13577
On October 24 2011 02:35 Cronosc2 wrote:
can maybe anyone help me with choosing the right parts or a complete new pc

os is not needed and atm i play at 1650x1024

so i just want to play mainly sc2 and d3 on maxed settings as cheap as possible ...
im confused by all the different parts if they match with each other
maybe someone can help me


1650x1024 maxed as cheap as possible?

Motherboard:
BIOSTAR H61MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340
54.99$

Processor:
Intel Pentium G620 Sandy Bridge 2.6GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399
72.99$

Graphics Card:
HIS H685FN1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161384
144.99$

RAM:
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
23.49$

Hard Drive:
HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299
39.99$

Case:
XIGMATEK Asgard II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
29.99$


Power Supply:
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
44.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $428.42

Not going to max CPU settings for SC2 though but you experience so much diminishing returns for that it's not worth it. Outdated but replace with equivalent.

To be honest though that graphics card is probably too much, this is probably enough and at a good price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161379
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 23 2011 17:52 GMT
#13578
A 6850 is overkill for 1050...
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
October 23 2011 17:53 GMT
#13579
thanks for replies ^^
i can go to around 550€ ~

so much activity :D i like !
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 18:01:21
October 23 2011 17:59 GMT
#13580
On October 24 2011 02:53 Cronosc2 wrote:
thanks for replies ^^
i can go to around 550€ ~

so much activity :D i like !

Oh I missed your country, I love making builds for europeans! How about this:

http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50377&agid=1617
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46914&agid=1603
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50143&agid=707
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50576&agid=631
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28151&agid=689
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38042&agid=1192

Total: 350,51€ and 3.99€ in shipping


Check mindfactory though, it's possible they're cheaper

If you can't wait for Merc, this case:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43210&agid=631

Or this case:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49193&agid=635

Are both good alternatives.
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