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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 18:07:02
October 23 2011 18:02 GMT
#13581
On October 24 2011 02:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 02:53 Cronosc2 wrote:
thanks for replies ^^
i can go to around 550€ ~

so much activity :D i like !

Oh I missed your country, I love making builds for europeans! How about this:

http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50377&agid=1617
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46914&agid=1603
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50143&agid=707
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50576&agid=631
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28151&agid=689
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=47362&agid=699
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=38042&agid=1192

Total: 350,51€ and 3.99€ in shipping


Check mindfactory though, it's possible they're cheaper

If you can't wait for Merc, this case:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43210&agid=631


Or this case:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49193&agid=635

Are both good alternatives.


is that rly good for sc2 and d3 maxed ? :D sounds very cheap though
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2011 18:07 GMT
#13582
Well in that resolution it should be, at least very close... 6770 is like 20€ more costly and only maybe 5% better so not worth it. SC2 you can max yes apart from CPU, I'm not certain about diablo.

That means that if you don't think that's enough, you're looking at a 6850:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=39499&agid=1004

And that's about 56€ more.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
October 23 2011 18:09 GMT
#13583
is dual core really enough ? i heard a lot of people complain about sc2 eating lots of recources :S

Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 18:12:28
October 23 2011 18:10 GMT
#13584
D3 may have higher requirements. Since 1680x1050 is about 85% as many pixels as 1920x1080, I think HD 6850 is appropriate, possibly HD 6870.

If the budget is up to 550€, I think spending some extra on two 4GB RAM sticks rather than one, and a i5-2400 instead of a Pentium, and a higher-end graphics card would be decent investments.

edit:
On October 24 2011 03:09 Cronosc2 wrote:
is dual core really enough ? i heard a lot of people complain about sc2 eating lots of recources :S

Yes you need a fast CPU for SC2. But it doesn't really use more than two cores, so if you are just concerned with SC2, getting a faster dual core would make the most sense for the money.
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
October 23 2011 18:10 GMT
#13585
i found this a few days ago
https://www.csl-computer.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=3756&cPath=5_83&XTCsid=p1jck7rcko8stf317tao3ieatngu70ee
what are your thoughts on that sir ? ^__^
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2011 18:11 GMT
#13586
On October 24 2011 03:10 Myrmidon wrote:
D3 may have higher requirements. Since 1680x1050 is about 85% as many pixels as 1920x1080, I think HD 6850 is appropriate, possibly HD 6870.

If the budget is up to 550€, I think spending some extra on two 4GB RAM sticks rather than one, and a i5-2400 instead of a Pentium, and a higher-end graphics card would be decent investments.

Yep those would probably be the best things to spend the rest of it on.

Kind of annoying that DIablo III doesn't have info on the maxing requirements -_-
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 18:13:15
October 23 2011 18:12 GMT
#13587
On October 24 2011 03:10 Cronosc2 wrote:
i found this a few days ago
https://www.csl-computer.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=3756&cPath=5_83&XTCsid=p1jck7rcko8stf317tao3ieatngu70ee
what are your thoughts on that sir ? ^__^

no just no



oops, very worthy double post..
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pique
Profile Joined August 2011
143 Posts
October 23 2011 18:13 GMT
#13588
Hi lads.

currently using this motherboard
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3268#sp

note the:

* Due to chipset spec limitation, if you install AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s); however, the frequency of AM3 CPU will not be impacted. Please refer "CPU Support List" for more information.


now, I was considering either upgrading to a 2500k with an intel board, or keeping the board and going with a 965, for money saving purposes. i want to be able to stream 480p at least with the setup. my question is whether this system bus speed limitation will affect anything noteworthy, for my purposes.

also, if anyone has thoughts on the big vs. small upgrade i'd love to hear them. i don't see myself doing much demanding processor work other than streaming.

cheers!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 23 2011 18:13 GMT
#13589
On October 24 2011 03:10 Cronosc2 wrote:
i found this a few days ago
https://www.csl-computer.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=3756&cPath=5_83&XTCsid=p1jck7rcko8stf317tao3ieatngu70ee
what are your thoughts on that sir ? ^__^


That's slightly worse than the 350€ build with the Pentium, for SC2.
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
October 23 2011 18:15 GMT
#13590
maybe in the future i want to buy this monitor
http://www.aoc-europe.com/no_cache/en/monitors.html?useCacheHash=1&showUid=37
seems pretty cool. what effect has that on pc spec ?
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
October 23 2011 18:18 GMT
#13591
On October 24 2011 03:13 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 03:10 Cronosc2 wrote:
i found this a few days ago
https://www.csl-computer.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=3756&cPath=5_83&XTCsid=p1jck7rcko8stf317tao3ieatngu70ee
what are your thoughts on that sir ? ^__^


That's slightly worse than the 350€ build with the Pentium, for SC2.


thanks for that info
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 23 2011 18:26 GMT
#13592
On October 24 2011 03:15 Cronosc2 wrote:
maybe in the future i want to buy this monitor
http://www.aoc-europe.com/no_cache/en/monitors.html?useCacheHash=1&showUid=37
seems pretty cool. what effect has that on pc spec ?


nothing, it's just that the screen is 1080p, so to run games at the graphic level you want you will need an adequate GPU, that is all
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
October 23 2011 18:27 GMT
#13593
kay .. so around 400 € is the price over all thank you tl community <3
deathbringer829
Profile Joined May 2011
United States10 Posts
October 23 2011 18:34 GMT
#13594
On October 24 2011 02:43 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 02:20 deathbringer829 wrote:
ok so im thinking about building my own computer. turns out to be around 609 dollars for this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


sorry for the quality. may have to zoom in with your browser.


let me know what you guys think i would really appreciate it thanks!


Motherboard:
BIOSTAR H61MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138340
54.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
189.99$

Graphics Card:
HIS H687FN1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
164.99$

RAM:
Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
23.49$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
XIGMATEK Asgard II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004
29.99$

Power Supply:
Antec Neo Eco 520W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
54.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $590.42$


Outdated but replace with equivalent parts of equivalent prices if necessary. Like currently this graphics card would be a good buy:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378

Also see if ncix or others have better pricing.


Thank you so much. that was extremely helpful !!!
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 18:49:20
October 23 2011 18:36 GMT
#13595
Okay i'm planning to get a new PC.

- budget: +- 600-650 euro
- resolution: 1024x1080
- gaming (SC2,D3,Skyrim,BF3)
- office stuff, some photoshopping,
- Don't really plan on overclocking, never did it
- will use Azerty.nl as site

so far i got this setup: http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.phpproduct[7517]=1&product[281570]=1&product[409338]=1&product[225309]=1&product[396815]=1&product[423778]=1&product[405098]=1&product[363680]=1&product[47498]=1&product[230178]=1
+ Show Spoiler +

Intel 15-2400 3.1 Ghz
163,92 E

Sapphire Radeon 6870
151,09 E

ASRock H61M
53,76 E

Corsair CX500 V2 (500 W)
52,63 E

Samsung F3 Spinpoint (1TB)
73,43E

Kingston Valueram 2x4 GB
40,91E

Samsung DVD/RW station
17,20E

Cooler Master Elite 370
41,30E

Revoltec Airguard
4,65E

Montage + 1y warranty
59,00E

Total: 657,89 Euro


Is this a reasonable build? What should i change? Just need some good feedback
Since i never built a PC, i plan on letting the site do this for me (1 year warranty on all the parts + the montage for 59euro.)
The HDD prices seem to have gone up quite a bit, should i wait for the prices to drop again?

Thanks in advance
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 18:46:42
October 23 2011 18:43 GMT
#13596
overall it's not bad, but you could optimize it a bit

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28152&agid=689
same hdd but at 61 €

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43024&agid=1004
5750 for 80€
or
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46875&agid=1004
6770 for 90€

the 6870 is overkill for such a low resolutions (even these actually ... a 6670 would do the work)
but in case you can to get a better resolution later, one of these would still be adequate

also might as well get a cheaper mobo
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46914&agid=1603

edit : wait a sec, wtf is that resolution you got ? 1024 x 1080 ? Oo isn't it rather 1024 x 768 or 1920 x 1080 ?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 23 2011 18:44 GMT
#13597
HDD prices have went up because of short supply due to the flooding in Thailand. You can wait if you wish. The configuration you have there is a good one.
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
October 23 2011 18:50 GMT
#13598
On October 24 2011 03:43 Rachnar wrote:
overall it's not bad, but you could optimize it a bit

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28152&agid=689
same hdd but at 61 €

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43024&agid=1004
5750 for 80€
or
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46875&agid=1004
6770 for 90€

the 6870 is overkill for such a low resolutions (even these actually ... a 6670 would do the work)
but in case you can to get a better resolution later, one of these would still be adequate

also might as well get a cheaper mobo
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46914&agid=1603

edit : wait a sec, wtf is that resolution you got ? 1024 x 1080 ? Oo isn't it rather 1024 x 768 or 1920 x 1080 ?


u meant me ? ^^ dont know who u reffering to
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
October 23 2011 18:52 GMT
#13599
On October 24 2011 03:50 Cronosc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2011 03:43 Rachnar wrote:
overall it's not bad, but you could optimize it a bit

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=28152&agid=689
same hdd but at 61 €

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43024&agid=1004
5750 for 80€
or
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46875&agid=1004
6770 for 90€

the 6870 is overkill for such a low resolutions (even these actually ... a 6670 would do the work)
but in case you can to get a better resolution later, one of these would still be adequate

also might as well get a cheaper mobo
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46914&agid=1603

edit : wait a sec, wtf is that resolution you got ? 1024 x 1080 ? Oo isn't it rather 1024 x 768 or 1920 x 1080 ?


u meant me ? ^^ dont know who u reffering to


he was referring to my build ^_^.
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 19:00:12
October 23 2011 18:53 GMT
#13600
1 year warranty is useless as the parts should all have their own warranties anyway, seems like a total waste of money.

Apart from that, the mobo, graphics card, cpu all seem good.

Why not this hard drive instead, it's larger too:
http://azerty.nl/8-857-185571/seagate-barracuda-7200-11-va.html

The case's okay but not the best, I'd wait for BitFenix Merc.


Also it's true that you could get this for cheaper from Germany.

EDIT: Oh I totally overlooked your resolution, is it really 1280x1024?

In that case I really believe that this graphics card would be better suited for you if you want to max the games in that res:
http://azerty.nl/0-2963-404325/sapphire-radeon-hd-6750-grap.html
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