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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 04:08:29
August 27 2011 04:07 GMT
#10281
Awesome, I found a great way to apply thermal paste. Put a pea sized dot in the center like usual, but 4 BARELY VISIBLE dots in the corners (about 1/2 a cm away from the center dot). My temps dropped like crazy!
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I opened RealTemp about 5 seconds before Prime95! My old application used to jump to 85 in about 40 seconds!

Btw is there any reason to leave it at constant 4.2 GHz if I get the same vCore anyways with 1.6 GHz Turboboost OC mode?
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 05:14:25
August 27 2011 05:10 GMT
#10282
On August 27 2011 10:13 Womwomwom wrote:
Speaking of heatsinks, does the United States not sell Thermalright products anymore? Because holy shit the Thermalright HR-02 Macho is an amazing steal at $40 provided you can fit the thing in your case.


I don't know... [H] reviewed it, and I'd call it fair, but not unexpectedly amazing for the price. I'm kind of of the opinion that if you crack the $25-30 tower cooler range on air, you should go for the top or near the top of the heap, not somewhere else in the middle.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/07/26/thermalright_hr02_macho_cpu_air_cooler_review/3

61C load on a 3.6Ghz 920 with 25C ambient doesn't really impress me all that much. It's good enough, but not so outstandingly better than a Gaia/212+ that it makes me have a hardware happypants or anything.

And frankly, if you look at that review, yeah, it's impressive price/performance... if the next cheapest HSF you throw into the mix is 75% more... maybe a different review can sound more awesome, and less like a paid ad, but that one just made it seem reasonable at best.

And that's a big honkin piece of metal to have hanging off your mobo.

Oh wait. Asshats shouldn't have highlighted the no-fan version of it in their results. Much more impressive at 47C. And maybe I should read slower at midnight.

The big honkin piece of metal comment still stands though.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 27 2011 05:34 GMT
#10283
On August 27 2011 14:10 JingleHell wrote:
The big honkin piece of metal comment still stands though.


Is there a particular weight one should start to worry/avoid, or does that depend on motherboard build quality?
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
guMmiwormz
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States312 Posts
August 27 2011 05:52 GMT
#10284
So I began building my comp today, but I've run into some trouble. When my video card is plugged in, the monitor has no signal and the computer doesnt recognize it. When I take it out and use the onboard GPU, its fine.

I think I might've broken off the retention clip on the pci express slot, but it doesn't even look like there was one in the first place when I got it. The actual slot itself looks fine, theres just nothng for that last part of the fin on the video card to go into.

This is my motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

and my GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Thanks in advance.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
August 27 2011 06:36 GMT
#10285
On August 27 2011 14:34 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 14:10 JingleHell wrote:
The big honkin piece of metal comment still stands though.


Is there a particular weight one should start to worry/avoid, or does that depend on motherboard build quality?


I wouldn't move the computer around too often with any of these heavy tower coolers but there shouldn't be any problems. People are fitting Noctua D14s and Thermalright Silver Arrows, both weigh close to 1kg, without any problems and you can probably ghetto rig some supports if you are worried about

Try snapping or bending a PCB. Its actually really difficult to do it with your bare hands, you basically need to put your weight on it to actually seriously bend it.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
August 27 2011 06:53 GMT
#10286
What should I look for in HSF? What's a decently low decibel level? What's a decent price? What's a good, reliable brand?
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 07:03:23
August 27 2011 07:03 GMT
#10287
Two more things. I was looking at the details for some HSFs and there is a section that tells their compatibility, such as "LGA 1156" compatible. Why does LGA compatibility matter? I thought that was strictly between the processor and the motherboard.

Something else, I was looking at the Noctua NH-D14 recommended in the OP of this thread, and according to it's reviews, this HSF is really quiet, but fucking HUGE. The reviews say that it will be hard to install on small motherboards. Should I be concerned about large HSFs? Simply not fitting?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
August 27 2011 08:31 GMT
#10288
LGA compatibility matters because each LGA will have different mounting holes on the motherboard - that's what they're talking about. If your CPU heatsink is only compatible with LGA775 and LGA1366, for instance, you will not be use it with LGA1156 motherboards because the mounting brackets will not fit through the motherboard mounting holes.

About your second question, you should be concerned about the size. There are two main things you should take into account:
- RAM clearance. Some larger coolers, like the Noctua D14, will have trouble fitting if you use memory with heatspreaders. That is why when possible, I always recommend the most basic memory kits to prevent this from happening.
- Case clearance. Some cases cannot fit tall tower CPU heatsinks due to insufficient width and/or huge side panel fans.

The Noctua D14 (the Thermalright Silver Arrow is better in just about every way though) should fit in most cases that can fit 158mm tall CPU heatsinks. The main problem is memory clearance since its just so wide, which might be why those reviewers found it difficult to mount on small motherboards.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 13:34:09
August 27 2011 08:41 GMT
#10289
Some cases like the Corsair 600t have a huge ass fan at the top which can also prevent you from installing huge coolers. I think the Noctua D14 will fit on the millimeter. Some motherboards that have fancy passive heatdissipaters (not sure if it's the correct word) can also cause some troubles.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 27 2011 13:21 GMT
#10290
On August 27 2011 14:52 guMmiwormz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

So I began building my comp today, but I've run into some trouble. When my video card is plugged in, the monitor has no signal and the computer doesnt recognize it. When I take it out and use the onboard GPU, its fine.

I think I might've broken off the retention clip on the pci express slot, but it doesn't even look like there was one in the first place when I got it. The actual slot itself looks fine, theres just nothng for that last part of the fin on the video card to go into.

This is my motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

and my GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Thanks in advance.


Uh... are you plugging the monitor into the graphics card when you plug it in?

Is both 6pin PCIe connectors connected to the graphics card?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 27 2011 15:00 GMT
#10291
On August 27 2011 14:34 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 14:10 JingleHell wrote:
The big honkin piece of metal comment still stands though.


Is there a particular weight one should start to worry/avoid, or does that depend on motherboard build quality?


It's more motion that's a danger, like Wom said. It's much more likely to unseat the CPU if your PC takes a whack, and the heavier your cooler, the better the chance it can damage the mounting holes if it gets bounced around.

It's not so much a danger of breaking the mobo, as it is wearing down those holes or damaging the solder on the motherboard, that second one requiring not having all your standoffs in place. It's really kind of a gut call. It's mostly a concern if you move your PC a lot or have reasons to be concerned about it getting hit/shaken a lot, like toddlers or pets.
ProZerren
Profile Joined August 2011
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 18:38:26
August 27 2011 18:25 GMT
#10292
never mind I'm going with a premade desktop
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 27 2011 18:37 GMT
#10293
Can you use spoilers or format your post better...

Without knowing what you are going to be using your computer for, we can't comment on how poorly optimized the build is. If it's for gaming than 6950 2GB is a waste of money, Phenom II X6 is a waste of money, 990x is a waste of money, 750w power supply is a waste of money, Caviar Black is a waste of money, ...

SODIMM is not compatible with 990x... You want DDR3 SDRAM.
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
August 27 2011 18:42 GMT
#10294
On August 27 2011 14:52 guMmiwormz wrote:
So I began building my comp today, but I've run into some trouble. When my video card is plugged in, the monitor has no signal and the computer doesnt recognize it. When I take it out and use the onboard GPU, its fine.

I think I might've broken off the retention clip on the pci express slot, but it doesn't even look like there was one in the first place when I got it. The actual slot itself looks fine, theres just nothng for that last part of the fin on the video card to go into.

This is my motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

and my GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Thanks in advance.


Did you disable the onboard GPU in the BIOS before plugging in the new GPU? I'm pretty sure this might be your problem.
Desire.Discipline.Dedication
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
August 27 2011 19:23 GMT
#10295
You might have disabled the PCIExpress Slot in your BIOs, you might want to check that part. The only other option would be to check your PSU connections, and if that doesn't work you might just have to replace it.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Voidz
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain51 Posts
August 27 2011 19:47 GMT
#10296
Does anyone have an opinion on this monitor Asus VW228N, I can get it for 109€, i want a good image quality, will be used for 1080p gaming, movies, surfing..
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 27 2011 20:40 GMT
#10297
yep thats a good monitor especially for such a low price
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
guMmiwormz
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States312 Posts
August 27 2011 21:29 GMT
#10298
On August 27 2011 22:21 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 14:52 guMmiwormz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

So I began building my comp today, but I've run into some trouble. When my video card is plugged in, the monitor has no signal and the computer doesnt recognize it. When I take it out and use the onboard GPU, its fine.

I think I might've broken off the retention clip on the pci express slot, but it doesn't even look like there was one in the first place when I got it. The actual slot itself looks fine, theres just nothng for that last part of the fin on the video card to go into.

This is my motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

and my GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

Thanks in advance.


Uh... are you plugging the monitor into the graphics card when you plug it in?

Is both 6pin PCIe connectors connected to the graphics card?


oh. didn't even think of that. Thanks a lot for the build and the advice.
Everything looks to be working now.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
August 27 2011 21:33 GMT
#10299
Haha yeah I had a lot of problems with building my computer due to minimal things as well:
-trying to put in an optical drive through the back
-applying too much thermal paste
-not switching monitor to HDMi mode
:D
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 27 2011 21:54 GMT
#10300
Can someone help me out I am having trouble running Battlefield bad company 2 even with all the game settings on low and the resolution set to my default 1920 x 1080, the game lags on me when I'm in a server of more than 25 people. Here are my specs and I'm just wondering what's killing me with games about this computer, tbh I assume CPU but idk since I am sadly bad with computer stuff. I was lucky enough to air dust my computer out without freezing anything the other day (first time I've cleaned a computer lol).
Specs-
+ Show Spoiler +
Monitor Info: 1920 x 1080 Recommended Resolution
eMachines E233Hbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 80000:1(1000:1)

Processor Intel® Core™ i3 540 Processor (2x 3.06GHz/4MB L3 Cache)
Memory 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module
Video Card ATI Radeon HD 5770 - 1GB - Single Card
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H55M-USB3
Motherboard USB / SATA Interface Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface
Primary Hard Drive 750 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive
Network Card Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
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