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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 19 2011 19:53 GMT
#5701
Yay,

Everything is working now. Just patiently waiting for my graphics card that should be here in a week =(

Thank you to skyR, jinglehell, and a176 for helping me out! No way would I have finished w/o you guys!
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 19 2011 19:55 GMT
#5702
On May 20 2011 04:50 djcube wrote:
Don't think I should make a new thread, so I'll post this here.

I'm currently trying to play SC2 on my home comp, which has a Phenom II x4 840, ATI 5750 1GB, and 4GB RAM. However, I get major FPS drops when playing 1v1 games. The drops are random as well, like even near the beginning of the game when barely anything is on screen. I'm playing at 1440x900 res and I tried putting all the settings to low, except textures and shaders to medium and it still lags (around < 20 fps).

That said, I noticed in a hardware monitoring software that came with the mobo that cpu clocks drop. Is this normal? I'll monitor the cpu and it'll show the multiplier dropping down to 4 (from 16) which shows the speed dropping from 3200 MHz to 800 MHz.


If you are alt tabbing to check, it is normal for the multiplier to drop back down. If you are in the game and have the monitor on a second screen than no it is not normal.

You should disable all power-saving features in the BIOS and within Windows to see if this helps at all.
FalconPunch
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States134 Posts
May 19 2011 22:16 GMT
#5703
Hi, not sure if I shoulda made a separate thread for this, but oh well. I am thinking about building a computer to play Starcraft 2 on 1680x1050 resolution. I already bought some parts, and I'm waiting on deals for the remaining parts. I don't have a particular budget or upgrade cycle, but I just want to save money wherever I can. I care most about bang-for-your-buck.

What I have or will have:

CPU: i3-2100 $100
GPU: XFX Radeon HD 4850 1gb. I was considering going with a 5770, but really the 4850 will suffice. Plus I was able to get it for $40.
PSU: Corsair CX430. This was for $20. Had pretty decent reviews for its price. I also think this will suffice.
HDD: WD 750gb Caviar. $30.


Here's what I need help with:

MOBO: I don't know what to look for here. I am looking for something solid and between $50-100. Please recommend me some options.
RAM: Waiting for a deal, but came across this for $30: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=249313&t=2935581. Thoughts on this?
Case: I don't need something stylish. I care about functionality more. I came across this for $30: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=249313&t=2924863. Thoughts?

Lastly. What are your thoughts on my build in general. I really don't play games other than SC2. I think the GPU will suffice, but am not sure how the CPU will do in large battles during 3v3 or 4v4 games.
You only live twice.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 19 2011 22:25 GMT
#5704
Core i3 2100 is one of the best processors on the market atm. Starcraft 2 does not utilize more than 2 cores so its fine that you went with a dual core instead of a quad core. Performance difference is very similar to that of its quad core cousin (core i5 2300) in SC2: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0

Memory is a good deal if you want to deal with mail in rebates. Case is also a good deal for $30 after mail in rebate.

As for the motherboard. If you're looking at possibly adding a SSD later or need USB3, you could get an Asrock H61M U3S3 for $80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 If you don't care about having SATA3 or USB3 than a Asrock H61M-VS for $60 would be fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

The 4850 and 5770 are similar in performance.

The build is good, you got some pretty good deals on all the components.
FalconPunch
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States134 Posts
May 19 2011 22:38 GMT
#5705
Awesome, thanks for the input!

Question about the motherboards you suggested. I noticed they both say "Memory Standard: DDR3 1333/1066." The memory I linked to above is DDR3 1600.. so I was just wondering if they are compatible with each other.
You only live twice.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 19 2011 22:39 GMT
#5706
Yes, it'll be compatible. 1600MHz will just downclock to 1333MHz.
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 03:36:10
May 20 2011 03:35 GMT
#5707
Hi guys. So I bought the system that you guys all helped me to build not too long ago. I had NCIX preassemble it. I installed my OS, updated all my drivers from teh interwebz. So my problem is it just randomly shuts down and reboots sometimes.

I got my computer yesterday and spent most of the day setting it up and downloading things and installing games and what have you and nothing went wrong. Today I was playing SC2 for about an hour and then poof! Random reboot. Thought that was quite weird so I checked out what everything was running at and nothing seems to be out of the ordinary. All the temps are fine, which I expected since I dont overclock.

Heres what I have:

Intel core i5 2400 cpu
asrock h67m mobo
msi twin frozr gtx 560 ti gpu
antec neo eco 450C psu
Western Digital 640gb dual proc 7200 rpm sata 3 HD
Mushkin ddr3 ram 2x2GB

I checked all the connections when the computer got here to make sure nothing had come loose while shipping. They all seemed good.

So... what could it be? The best I can come up with is my psu isn't good enough? But I'm not the most knowledgeable about this stuff so I thought I'd check here. Help please!!!
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 20 2011 03:48 GMT
#5708
Check your RAM with memtest. If it fails at least once during 4 trials, then get it RMA'd.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 20 2011 03:57 GMT
#5709
When you say your temperatures are fine, do you mean during load or during idle? It's the load temperatures that matter.

You may possibly be getting a blue screen but you have it configured so that it just automatically reboots. Go into Control Panel > System & Security > System > Advanced System Settings > Startup and Recovery Settings > Untick Automatically Restart
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
May 20 2011 05:13 GMT
#5710
I ran Heaven benchmarking and kept an eye on the temperature and it seemed to be an acceptable range. I don't remember what it got to, I can run it again tomorrow and check if you want. Ran Memtest through 2 passes with 0 errors. I'm headed to bed right away which is why I didn't let it complete 4 passes. It said the first pass was 6 iterations and the second pass 300 iterations... I don't know what that means or if it means anything at all. But if you think I should run it for 2 more passes still I will do that tomorrow.

I unticked automatically restart. If/when it happens again I'll let you know if I get a blue screen or not.
BossPlaya
Profile Joined September 2010
United States141 Posts
May 20 2011 05:43 GMT
#5711
Looking to build my first computer over the summer and was wondering if someone could give me some help. I'm totally willing to do research and shit on my own but I don't really understand compatibility and optimal pricing per quality.
Going to be primarily a gaming rig with some streaming (once I get better!). Trying to keep the parts at around the $800-900 range with an absolute limit at $950 as I won't upgrade for at least 3 years.

I've been checking out newegg stuff and comparing it to some guides online for what exactly I'll need but like I said this is my 1st time building a computer so I'm not 100% on everything. I don't even know how to tell if everything would fit in the different cases.

I'd really appreciate a noob guide/walkthrough or a PM from one of you super nerds to help me get started on how to pick everything. So far I've settled on:

i5
GTX 560 Ti
I may "acquire" W7 but I also may go hackintosh with this project since I have a SL disc laying around if that makes a difference.

Thanks guys I'm really looking forward to this summer project
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FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
May 20 2011 06:40 GMT
#5712
I am building my computer right now. Ive been reading the manuals and case i got which is the 430 black elite coolmaster has only one fan under the dvd port at the bottom. It stated to install 3 more fans one in the back and 2 on the top... I didnt buy any extra fans and I was curious to know if I need to? thanks

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6654
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 20 2011 06:41 GMT
#5713
You don't need to install extra fans. The manual just tells you how to do every part of the installation regardless if you need to or not.
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
May 20 2011 06:44 GMT
#5714
Would you recommend to get extra fans ?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 20 2011 06:46 GMT
#5715
Nope. Extra fans are totally unnecessary for someone putting together their first build.
dandan23
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia101 Posts
May 20 2011 07:20 GMT
#5716
PCI Simple Communications Controller is undentified in my Device Manager ..
Using Asus P8P67PRO
Is it because i turn off my bluetooth in my bios ?
or What driver downloads am i missing ?
TeamLiquid Fighting!! =3
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 20 2011 07:27 GMT
#5717
If you disable bluetooth in the BIOS, nothing appears in the device manager. Do you have something plugged into the PCI slot?
dandan23
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia101 Posts
May 20 2011 07:29 GMT
#5718
Nothing just my GTX580 ..
TeamLiquid Fighting!! =3
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 20 2011 07:33 GMT
#5719
Quick googling says its the Intel Management Engine: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3273&DwnldID=19691&ProductFamily=Desktop Boards&ProductLine=Intel® 6 Series Chipset Boards&ProductProduct=Intel® Desktop Board DP67BG&lang=eng Funny I don't remember installing this on mine...
dandan23
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia101 Posts
May 20 2011 07:46 GMT
#5720
it takes me ... 10 days and get nothing figure out..
it takes 10 secs for skyR to get everything done
Big Thanks to SkyR
TeamLiquid Fighting!! =3
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