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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 18:16 GMT
#4641
@XenOmega

The Coolermaster Elite 330 is a decent case for $36 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/114936/COOLERMASTER/RC_330_KKN1/ ): http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=20935

The Antec High Current Gamer 520w for $60 ($50 after mail in rebate - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56787&promoid=1320) would be perfectly capable of powering a budget configuration and it will have lots of headroom for a graphics card upgrade. CrossfireX is a waste of money, do not plan for it. It is almost always better to get a next-generation graphics card.

If your friend doesn't need a quad core, it would be better to get a Core i3 2100 and H61 / H67 motherboard, here's a bundle for $170: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60593&promoid=1320

If he needs a quad core than it would be better to get a Core i5 2300 for $175 and a H61 / H67 motherboard for around $70. Keep in mind that this is not that much more expensive than the Phenom II X4 955 bundle without taking into account the promotional gift card and mail in rebate.

Here's a review showing the performance difference between the core i3 2100 and various processors: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
April 24 2011 18:29 GMT
#4642
I would go for a Core i5-2x00 on a computer me ant to last that long. Who knows--maybe some of those SSE4.2 and especially AVX instructions will become more prevalent. The new Intel CPUs support those, while the Phenom II don't.

Another PSU option is the Antec Neo Eco 450C for $45 (no mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60491

An i5-2400 and HD 5770 system would like less than 250W full load, so you've got plenty of room there. Strangely enough, the Antec Neo Eco 450C, Antec High Current Gamer 400/520/620, and Seasonic S12II are all related in that they're all manufactured by Seasonic and have internals based very closely off of the retail Seasonic S12II units. Why does Antec have two product lines (Neo Eco and lower-wattage HCG) that are practically the same internally and cost practically the same to make*? Marketing I guess.

*okay, HCG ones are very slightly better and should be a little bit more expensive
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 24 2011 18:44 GMT
#4643
My friend does not need 4 core. Well, not for the current generation games
My only fear with duo core I3 is that it will become too weak in the next 5-7 years. Ok, that's really far and nobody can know for sure. I believe duo is the minimum nowadays. Although speculation, do you think that 4core will become standard soon?

What about the speculations about Bulldozer? When will these get out? Wait before purchasing the cpu/mobo?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 18:59 GMT
#4644
Bulldozer is expected to be released this June at Computex 2011. Bulldozer will most likely not be as powerful as Intel's Sandybridge.
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
April 24 2011 21:13 GMT
#4645
which would you reccomend?

AMD phenom X4 965 BE $120 no tax
i3 2100 +H61 mobo $170 + tax
i5 2400 $175 no tax

GTX 460 768 $120 no tax
radeon HD 6850 $130 no tax
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 21:23 GMT
#4646
core i5 2400 and 6850 is a no brainer at those prices.
spacefarm
Profile Joined July 2010
United States112 Posts
April 24 2011 21:24 GMT
#4647
Hey looking to do my first build for around 900 ca including the os. I would appreciate recommendations ~_~
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 21:28 GMT
#4648
On April 25 2011 06:24 spacefarm wrote:
Hey looking to do my first build for around 900 ca including the os. I would appreciate recommendations ~_~


What does 900 ca mean? California? Canadian dollars?

Please specify what is asked for in the OP (whether you want to overclock or not, what are you going to be using the PC for, and what resolution / size monitor).
spacefarm
Profile Joined July 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 21:53:33
April 24 2011 21:52 GMT
#4649
What is your budget?

900-1000 CANADIAN DOLLARS excluding monitor

What is your resolution?

i think i wanna get an lcd I can use for console and pc games?

What are you using it for?

sc2, d3, css

What is your upgrade cycle?

3 years iono

When do you plan on building it?

asap

Do you plan on overclocking?

prolly not hxc enough

Do you need an Operating System?

yeah, is windows 7 what i want?

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

maybe?

Where are you buying your parts from?
new egg or whatever else has the best deal

Any help would be greatly appreciated as i have only ever bought pre-built computers and am not really sure how to go about researching components and compatability.
Tengo_Hambre
Profile Joined December 2007
United States51 Posts
April 24 2011 22:00 GMT
#4650
hi all, i'm looking to build up a desktop, but haven't build one before. i have some working knowledge of computers, but am a bit behind with the latest tech, and i also have some basic questions.

first: cpu's--i'm having a tough time figuring out which ones have integrated graphics and which don't. i'm looking for an intel cpu, and from what i can tell, the sandy bridge ones all have integrated graphics? is it possible to run a separate gpu on one of these anyway? what should i be looking for (sub $200) in terms of processors?

second: this is a super basic question, but one that i've never figured out...will any motherboard fit in any case? is there much involved in making sure the usb ports line up where they should (since it seems different cases place their usb ports in different locations)?

thanks for the help, sorry for being a noob.
pain is weakness leaving the body.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 22:09 GMT
#4651
@Tengo_Hambre

The integrated graphics card on the new Intel processors are automatically disabled when it detects a discrete graphics card installed. The only processor you should be looking at in the $200 range is either the core i5 2400 or core i5 2500k. The "K" has an unlocked multiplier which is used for overclocking.

Any ATX tower will fit any mATX and ATX motherboard. The front panel USB ports have connectors that are plugged into the motherboard. The motherboard will include its own I/O port for the back.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 22:22 GMT
#4652
@spacefarm

If you're not overclocking, don't plan for SLI or CrossfireX.

The below configuration total comes to $948 before mail in rebates, promotional offers, shipping, and other charges. If you want to lower the total further, you can replace the $160 SSD and $58 HDD with a Western Digital Caviar Black / Blue for around $50:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $185 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD5176 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964

Asrock H67M @ $100 (pricematch with http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=037627 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59672

Mushkin 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $41 ($35 after mail in rebate, pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226092 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55546

MSI GTX 460 1GB Cyclone @ $180 ($170 after promotional gift card, $145 after maial in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54624&promoid=1320

Corsair Force 80GB @ $160
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59021&promoid=1320

Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB @ $58
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=48813&promoid=1320

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $53
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1320

Antec High Current Gamer 520W @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56787&promoid=1320

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/MICROSOFT/GFC_00599/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

DVD Drive @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223566/Samsung/SH_S223C_BEBE_OEM/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=46792
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 24 2011 22:23 GMT
#4653
I think ill go for the newest SB i5. But ill have to make sure though, how much converting that good AMD bundle into the SB would be in term of $$ and what it will be with the shipping
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 22:32 GMT
#4654
@XenOmega

Core i5 2300 @ $176 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD6306 )
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?&item_id=035527

Asrock H61M-VS @ $60 ($55 after mail in rebate)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=037793

Total = $236 before mail in rebate, taxes, shipping, and other charges

You can grab a Core i5 2400 for $10 more as well.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 24 2011 23:17 GMT
#4655
Does every lga1155 socket mobo is compatible with SB i5 2300? I'd prefer to keep everything within ncix products, so that i can minimize the shippings costs and insurance
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 23:21:58
April 24 2011 23:20 GMT
#4656
Yes all LGA 1155 (H61, H67, P61, P67) are compatible with all Sandybridge processors.

You can get this MSI H61 for $57 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD0755 ) in that case: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59106
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 24 2011 23:26 GMT
#4657
only 2 room for ram though. I guess 4gb is standard and we shouldn't exepct games or prorams to require more than that for the next 5-7 years?
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
April 24 2011 23:35 GMT
#4658
I am planning on doing a side grade on my i3-530. I'll be overclocking and playing games at max settings. Here's the build. Part's are being purchased from a retailer I've used for the last couple years (filtech computers) or ncix.com. I'll also be using some parts from my old build. Budget is $500 max.

i5-2500k @ $219.99
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3-B3 @ $124.99 (I want the UD3P chipset tbh, i like the black color lol)
DVD/Boot Drive - ?? ($20- $30)
Total = $360 before taxes

Part's I will be reusing.
Corsair A70 CPU Cooler
Cooler master Haf 912
ATI HD5870 1GB
24inch monitor
500 GB Hard drive

I'll have about $80-$100 dollars left to spare and I was wondering what and if I should be upgrading/adding some other parts. Right now, I have a Kingston 4GB value kit @ 1066mhz and a OCZ StealthXStream 500W PSU. Not sure if these will be sufficient for overclocking.

i be that pretty motherfucker
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2011 23:47 GMT
#4659
@XenOmega

Yes, games aren't going to be needing 8GB of RAM anytime soon. You said you want to keep the costs down and that was the cheapest H61 board on NCIX.

@UraSofty

Pricematch core i5 2500k to $207: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD1527

The Gigabyte P67 UD3P is at a horrible pricepoint ($150) and there is little reason to get it. You could get a more featured board at $150 such as the ASUS P8P67 or MSI P67 GD55.

DVD Drive @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223566/Samsung/SH_S223C_BEBE_OEM/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=46792

The rest of your setup is good, I'd probably save the extra money or spend it towards a SSD.

XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 25 2011 00:49 GMT
#4660
Ty for you skyr for these precious information

Mind another question? My friend hard drive is infested by a virus, spyware or something... Do you think taking his HD home and put it on my desktop to format/scan can be safe, or will it threaten my other HD?
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