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Wolfsburg
United States9 Posts
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ChOoA
United States8 Posts
On April 11 2011 09:21 skyR wrote: @ChOoA Total comes to $852 (before mail in rebates) Core i5 2400 @ $180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 Asrock H67M @ $95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157233 MSI 6850 Cyclone @ $183 ($168 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127566 GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 Corsair Force 60GB @ $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233163 Western Digital Caviar Green 1tb @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513 XFX Core Edition 450W @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Cooler Master HAF912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 DVD Drive @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136177 @Skyr i was wondering if the power supply can support the build u gave me. I read the gpu requirements need at least 500w+. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
To put it simply: No PCIe plug = any ATX PSU. One PCIe plug = 400W Two PCIe plug = 500W The HD6850 only has one PCIe plug. Some cards might have two PCIe plugs, like the GTX460, but can run perfectly on a single plug (I wouldn't do this unless you've got a solid PSU/don't have access to two PCIe plugs). | ||
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ChOoA
United States8 Posts
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Womwomwom
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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ChOoA
United States8 Posts
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ChOoA
United States8 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
I doubt its drivers, Windows 7 is pretty decent when it comes to drivers and it'll pretty much give you the most recent WHQL driver it can find. If not, it'll just run in software mode and look like ass. | ||
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XcoriateR
Canada1 Post
My budget around 5k hong kong dollars or around 700 usd....can bend budget a bit if it's worth it Hoping to game at 1680x1050...sc2 gaming....no streaming or other fancy multimedia stuff...but how more would I hv to pay to game at 1920x1200? Upgrade cycle is 3years+ Don't plan on over clocking Not going to do dual GPU either.... Can do without o/s and case for now...as I wanna see the case in person first... Athlon II X4 645 ~ $864 motherboard ~ MSI 870 AMD RX780 $500 RAM ~ 2GB Kingston ddr3 1333mhz (x2) $940 GPU ~ XFX HD5770 1GB $1035 (sth I dun understand about GPU are all the different manufacturers and variants....like I under stand the numbers behind geforce and ati graphics cards but what is the difference between the different variants of say 5770 or GTS450?) PSU ~ CORSAIR 450W 80+ $490 HDD ~ 1TB $422 DVD ~ pioneer DVD Ron drive $132 I ve been using my laptop at work running i5... Seems quite smooth and thinking about switching to that. Motherboard I hv no idea how to choose...I just looked at some builds and it seemed to be the most common motherboard recommended For the psu I look at it now seems like overkill at 450W?? But I not sure about the power usage of all these parts Total of all these come to HK$4,383. Can find prices at jumbo computers in the front page~Though some of the prices may vary a bit since I haven't updated the prices....I don't think they should be too big a difference... Thanks for the help! | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
That all looks good to me, but the RAM seems pretty expensive. You should be able to 4GB of RAM for about half that price, going by the prices of the other parts. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
AMD and Nvidia just design GPU chips and have them manufactured. They allow other companies to buy the GPU chips, RAM, other supporting electronics, and put them on a PCB and sell the resulting video card. Often the different versions from different vendors will have slightly different components, a different layout, and/or a different cooling solution. Since the GPU chip itself is the same, there is generally not much difference in the video cards. 450W is overkill if you're sticking with a lower-end CPU and a HD 5770, but unfortunately, there aren't that many quality PSUs sold at wattages lower than 380W and at much cheaper prices. Corsair VX450 is pretty good but outdated and maybe a little overpriced. What are the other options? | ||
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PsyPhi
Canada8 Posts
Budget: My budget is preferably in the 1000-1200 dollar (Canadian) range. I'd prefer to stay on the lower end of that range, but if it would be worth the money I wouldn't mind going up to 1500 maximum. Resolution: My resolution is 1920x1200. Uses: I'm mainly planning on using it for gaming, but also some video conversion and possibly some encoding. Upgrade cycle: My upgrade cycle will be around three years minimum, unless something has a catastrophic failure. When I'll be building: I plan on building the computer within the next few weeks. Overclocking: I am planning on overclocking, although I really don't have much experience with it. A few of my friends have experience with it, and I'll probably ask them to help me set things up. My current computer's cooling and motherboard are too weak and old to try very much. I don't need an operating system. I don't plan on adding a second GPU, as if I buy a good video card, I don't think it would be necessary or cost effective. Parts Sources: Anywhere Canadian is fine, although I've been mostly using TigerDirect and Newegg.ca to search for parts. I've been doing some hunting for parts already, and have a mostly complete list. The parts I'm the least sure about are the power supply (would I really need 750 watts?) and the 2600k processor (probably not worth the money) and the video card (same deal, not sure if it's worth the cost). Motherboard and Processor: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=165459&csid=_21 Case: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30887(ME).aspx Video Card: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073913&Sku=A271-6950 RAM: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4837614&Sku=C13-8220 Hard Drive: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6076939&pagenumber=1&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart Power Supply: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3438609&Sku=C13-2503#productresources The total from the listed prices is $1119.84, taking rebates into account. Thank you in advance for the help. Edit: Forgot to include my current list. | ||
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crespo
United States16 Posts
I didn't really like it all that much so I searched around a bit and found two combo packages I like a lot due to price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.624968 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.627694 I'm just wondering about the quality of the PSU to decide which one I like better. Obviously the video card is the same. Should I go ahead with one of these combos or would it be better value to just buy a slightly more expensive GPU/PSU and keep them separate? Should I just stick with the Antec Earthwatts 380 or give myself some room to upgrade in the future if I want to? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Are you buying now? I forget how NCIX's cycle of changing sales works. Anyway, you're probably looking at an i5-2500k with some kind of GTX 560 Ti level card and maybe an SSD. I can create a list of exact parts, or maybe skyR can whip up some Canadian pricematching deals. @crespo: CX500 is probably of slightly lower quality (though it can handle some more power--though not 120W more), and the TR2 is worse than that. I'd stick with the Earthwatts Green 380D and get this GTS 250 for $85 before $30 MIR. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150513 A GTS 250 is comparable to a HD 4850. 380W is room enough to upgrade in the future. As processes shrink and the manufacturing and design improve, the processing power per electrical power consumption goes down anyway. So you can always upgrade to the current generation's equivalent to something like a GTX 560 Ti or HD 6870. | ||
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crespo
United States16 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The core i7 2600k is not necessary for a primarily gaming computer. It will help in the encoding department but do you do enough of it to warrant the $100 extra over a core i5 2500k? 750w is not necessary if you are not adding a second graphics card. A ~500w unit will be perfectly capable for an overclocked processor and graphics card. The ASUS P8P67 LE is not a good overclocking board, it would be a big mistake to purchase one for overclocking purposes. You want a board with decent phase power (6+) (ASUS P8P67 LE only has four) such as a Gigabyte P67 UD3. You'll also want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking since the stock Intel heatsink is pretty terrible. edit: Did not see that you are unsure of the graphics card, if you're looking to lower the total some more, you can drop down to a 6950 1GB for $230 ($200 after mail in rebate): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58456&promoid=1320 Extremely good deal atm and I personally would get it over the 2GB variant at this price. Here are some reviews to illustrate the little difference between the two: + Show Spoiler + http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/40165-amd-radeon-hd-6950-1gb-review.html http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-1gb-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/ http://www.anandtech.com/show/4136/amd-launches-the-radeon-hd-6950-1gb Here's a configuration that is better optimized and simply better in every way for $957 ($1060 with core i7 2600k instead) before taxes, shipping, and mail in rebates. You could also add in a SSD for another $100 (60GB) to $200 (120GB) if you'd like. Intel Core i5 2500k @ $207 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD1527 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962 + Show Spoiler + Gigabyte P67 UD3 @ $125 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/233905/Gigabyte/GA_P67A_UD3_B3/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59418 GSkill Ripjaws X 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $80 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57950&promoid=1320 XFX Radeon HD6950 2GB @ $285 ($255 after mail in rebate) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59610 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB @ $80 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=50895 Antec High Current Gamer 520w @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56787&promoid=1320 Coolermaster 690ii Advanced @ $79 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC9811 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49226 DVD Drive @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223566/Samsung/SH_S223C_BEBE_OEM/ ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=46792 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $24 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/COOLERMASTER/RR_B10_212P_G1/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 24 2011 04:01 crespo wrote: Ok thanks a lot. Quick question though. What is the difference/advantage of having two 12v rails instead of one? I wouldn't worry about this... but if you want to learn, here's a long read: http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3990 | ||
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PsyPhi
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