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Legatus Lanius
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Nate.F
918 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:30 Wolfsburg wrote: Quick question http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 that power supply isn't enough for this videocard is it? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610 Would most probably be cutting it close. I'd suggest a 80+ 600W PSU instead. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
160w in a stress test | ||
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Nate.F
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Sound card is not necessary if you do not have an expensive sound setup. All modern motherboards have integrated sound that will be perfectly fine. 430w is more than enough to handle a budget configuration. USB comes from the motherboard and case. You said you needed Windows 7 so I included that with in the price. You also did not list a case so I assume you need one. The graphics card in the configuration below is slightly worse than the 6950 1GB but not by much. It'll easily run Starcraft 2 and other games on ultra on 1920x1080. Here's a configuration that comes to $722 before mail in rebates, promotional offers, shipping, taxes, and other fees: Core i5 2400 @ $185 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD5176 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57964 Asrock H67M @ $100 (pricematch with http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=037627 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59672 MSI GTX 460 1GB @ $180 ($170 after promotional gift card, $145 after mail in rebate) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54624&promoid=1320 GSkill 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD0279 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=42742 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1320 Corsair CX430 @ $30 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54842&promoid=1320 DVD Drive @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223566/Samsung/SH_S223C_BEBE_OEM/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=46792 Windows 7 Home Premium @ $94 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/MICROSOFT/GFC_00599/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271 Coolermaster Elite 310 @ $36 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/216705/COOLERMASTER/RC_310_BWN1_GP/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=39592 | ||
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Aduromors
United States279 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:42 Legatus Lanius wrote: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-560-ti_4.html#sect0 160w in a stress test Max load means nothing when your PSU only has one 12v rail at 34 amps. It would definitely be cutting it close. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 23 2011 03:54 Aduromors wrote: Max load means nothing when your PSU only has one 12v rail. It would definitely be cutting it close. Please enlighten me how max load differs on a single 12v and multi 12v rails. A GTX 560 and core i5 2400 configuration is not going to pull anywhere near 34a in a gaming scenario. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On April 23 2011 03:54 Aduromors wrote: Max load means nothing when your PSU only has one 12v rail at 34 amps. It would definitely be cutting it close. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. | ||
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Aduromors
United States279 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On April 23 2011 04:17 Aduromors wrote: Because it's a shitty PSU with a greatly inflated max wattage that would likely not hold up under constant 85-90% capacity? Sorry, saying a power supply is shitty doesn't explain how max load differs on single and multiple 12v rails. You make it sound as multiple 12v rails is better so please explain your reasoning. 34a on the 12v rail is pretty common for most high quality 400-500w power supplies so I'm not sure why you think this number is inflated. Calling a Seasonic power supply shitty clearly shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
It's possible to have a bad Seasonic power supply, even one based on the good design of the old Corsair VX450 / (original) Earthwatts 500W, but they're kind of rare. If a company asks for lower quality and for corners to be cut, they will be cut: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=209 But the XFX Core 450W is not bad. Ripple is typical Seasonic (very good), build quality is decent, internals are good, etc. It held up easily at a little over 100%. One valid issue you could bring up is that at least jonnyguru's sample was tested to have unusual voltage regulation: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=224 However, under much more realistic 3.3V/5V loads, voltage regulation was normal and very good. (Honestly now, what modern computer is going to draw 120W from 3.3V/5V on a 450W power supply?): http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=225 Kitguru's sample also showed no issues: http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/xfx-pro-series-450w-and-550w-power-supply-review/ | ||
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Belgo
United States721 Posts
500-600, as low as I can get it, honestly What is your resolution? 1600x1200. I still have a 21" crt that I like. What are you using it for? Gaming and Audio engineering. I've been using the same rig for 5 years, a Athlon 3500+ 64 bit processor and a Radeon x800, so I am used to not playing everything maxed out, and I am fine with keeping it that way to save some money. (I don't know a lot of the relative cost to how good shit looks anymore) Although for the audio engineering, which will not be the main rig for it, more a side project/mess around box, I'd like to keep the 4 cores and hopefully get 8gigs of ram, midi based stuff hogs memory. If it is possible to sneak that in, that would be excellent. What is your upgrade cycle? 3+ years, easy When do you plan on building it? As soon as I can, within the week hopefully Do you plan on overclocking? Nope Do you need an Operating System? Yes, and it is already in the list! Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope! Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, mostly. Unless there is a better deal on another site, whatever is most convenient. Located in the states CPU/Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.625034 OS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034 GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490 HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514 Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129074 CD/DVD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151192 Total: $684.92 | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
No one here can trouble these designs anyway with what they're running, I don't think anyone here is running systems that you find over at [H]ardocp. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Do you already have a boot drive? You would want a 7200 RPM drive such as a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB for $55: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 If you're just looking for a storage drive, the Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB is currently on sale for $75: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245 An Antec Earthwatts 380w for $40 would be capable of powering your configuration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 For a budget build, you probably want to use less money on a case. Just get a simple case such as the Coolermaster Elite 330 for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115 It looks like you don't mind dealing with mail in rebates. If that's the case, the ASUS GTX 460 768mb DirectCU for $155 ($125 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390 would be a better option than the MSI Radeon 5770 Twin Frozr. There's also no reason in paying a premium for a Twin Frozr 5770. A Sapphire 5770 for $115 ($95 afater mail in rebate) would work just as well. | ||
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Belgo
United States721 Posts
On April 23 2011 09:20 skyR wrote: @Belgo Do you already have a boot drive? You would want a 7200 RPM drive such as a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB for $55: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 If you're just looking for a storage drive, the Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB is currently on sale for $75: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245 An Antec Earthwatts 380w for $40 would be capable of powering your configuration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 For a budget build, you probably want to use less money on a case. Just get a simple case such as the Coolermaster Elite 330 for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115 It looks like you don't mind dealing with mail in rebates. If that's the case, the ASUS GTX 460 768mb DirectCU for $155 ($125 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121390 would be a better option than the MSI Radeon 5770 Twin Frozr. There's also no reason in paying a premium for a Twin Frozr 5770. A Sapphire 5770 for $115 ($95 afater mail in rebate) would work just as well. Yeah, the dinosaur of a computer I have now is still on windows Xp, so going to need the spinpoint, but 1tb should be enough for now! Any real differences between the 460 and the 5770? From what I can gather the 460 is just a small step above the 5770, but it dons't look like it would make such a big difference. So, right now I have CPU/Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.625034 OS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 GPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873 HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168111191154 CD/DVD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151192 Total: $614.92 Which is much better than the $689 total! Thank you! (゜∀゜) | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Any real differences between the 460 and the 5770? From what I can gather the 460 is just a small step above the 5770, but it dons't look like it would make such a big difference. Not enough to make something unplayable on the HD5770 playable on the GTX460 768mb. | ||
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Krasso
Denmark74 Posts
Current specs Motherboard: Acer MCP73 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz GFX: ATI Radeon HD4870 512MB DDR5 Ram: 4 Gb DDR2 Case: Antec Three Hunded PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX OS: Windows 7 32bit Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster T220 Upgrading to CPU: Intel Core i5 I5-2500K Motherboard: ASUS P8P67-M PRO RAM: Kingston ValueRAM 2 x 2 GB My plan is to be able to run Sc2 and perhaps some other games in decent quality graphics. Also i wanna run a 480p'ish stream on my 12/1mbit internet using xsplit and justin.tv. What do u think? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The Gigabyte P67 UD3 or Asrock P67 Pro3 would be better options. You'll also want a aftermarket heatsink such as the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for overclocking. | ||
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Wolfsburg
United States9 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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