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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 17 2013 00:52 GMT
#29841
No, not every time. In your case you've swapped multiple pieces of hardware, so it's even more likely to happen.

I think there are disk images online you can download for the purpose of running a repair.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 17 2013 09:32 GMT
#29842
So there are no Quad Core for Mobile CPU at the moment for Ivy Bridge? When will they come? And when will quad core haswell come? Anyone have a clue?
I am asking this because I am really bad at laptop hardware. I always thought quad was for desktop and mobile.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
May 17 2013 10:24 GMT
#29843
Uh, it is

All of the parts with "QM" on the end are quad core mobile.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 10:39:10
May 17 2013 10:38 GMT
#29844
On May 17 2013 19:24 Cyro wrote:
Uh, it is

All of the parts with "QM" on the end are quad core mobile.


Thanks
Follow up: Is it beneficial to get QM CPUs for sc2/DotA2/HoN games?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 13:07:03
May 17 2013 13:04 GMT
#29845
Most quad core mobile processors trade base and turbo frequencies for cores. Since you don't really use more than 2 cores with SC2 (HOTS included IIRC), you might even get worse performance than a good dual core processor. Though there shouldn't be a huge difference since the quad core i7s won't have all four cores loaded ingame.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 17 2013 14:22 GMT
#29846
On May 17 2013 22:04 Womwomwom wrote:
Most quad core mobile processors trade base and turbo frequencies for cores. Since you don't really use more than 2 cores with SC2 (HOTS included IIRC), you might even get worse performance than a good dual core processor. Though there shouldn't be a huge difference since the quad core i7s won't have all four cores loaded ingame.


Thanks for clearing that up.
Do you know which mobile processor has the highest single thread performance?
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
May 17 2013 14:54 GMT
#29847
All ovy bridges generally have the same single thread performance, so the highest clocked 3xxxM/QM you can get I guess. Maybe the i7 is a touch faster with more L3? But it probably doesn't really matter.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 17 2013 15:01 GMT
#29848
On May 17 2013 23:54 Alryk wrote:
All ovy bridges generally have the same single thread performance, so the highest clocked 3xxxM/QM you can get I guess. Maybe the i7 is a touch faster with more L3? But it probably doesn't really matter.


They all have the same? I'm sorry. I have never heard that before. People say the i5-3570K overclocked is the highest single thread performer for desktop. I am looking for one like that - just for mobile.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
May 17 2013 16:09 GMT
#29849
On May 18 2013 00:01 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 23:54 Alryk wrote:
All ovy bridges generally have the same single thread performance, so the highest clocked 3xxxM/QM you can get I guess. Maybe the i7 is a touch faster with more L3? But it probably doesn't really matter.


They all have the same? I'm sorry. I have never heard that before. People say the i5-3570K overclocked is the highest single thread performer for desktop. I am looking for one like that - just for mobile.

It doesn't work like that.

We are talking about mobile CPUs, which are limited by heat and power (although the two are related). The fastest mobile CPUs are nowhere near as fast as desktop CPUs.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 16:17:29
May 17 2013 16:13 GMT
#29850
On May 18 2013 01:09 Gumbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 00:01 llIH wrote:
On May 17 2013 23:54 Alryk wrote:
All ovy bridges generally have the same single thread performance, so the highest clocked 3xxxM/QM you can get I guess. Maybe the i7 is a touch faster with more L3? But it probably doesn't really matter.


They all have the same? I'm sorry. I have never heard that before. People say the i5-3570K overclocked is the highest single thread performer for desktop. I am looking for one like that - just for mobile.

It doesn't work like that.

We are talking about mobile CPUs, which are limited by heat and power (although the two are related). The fastest mobile CPUs are nowhere near as fast as desktop CPUs.


That's not what I meant. I am talking about a high performing single thread mobile cpu. That is good out of all the others, just like how the 3570K is. Just without the overclock of course.

--> I know mobile cpu are worse
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 16:28:15
May 17 2013 16:26 GMT
#29851
On May 18 2013 01:13 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 01:09 Gumbi wrote:
On May 18 2013 00:01 llIH wrote:
On May 17 2013 23:54 Alryk wrote:
All ovy bridges generally have the same single thread performance, so the highest clocked 3xxxM/QM you can get I guess. Maybe the i7 is a touch faster with more L3? But it probably doesn't really matter.


They all have the same? I'm sorry. I have never heard that before. People say the i5-3570K overclocked is the highest single thread performer for desktop. I am looking for one like that - just for mobile.

It doesn't work like that.

We are talking about mobile CPUs, which are limited by heat and power (although the two are related). The fastest mobile CPUs are nowhere near as fast as desktop CPUs.


That's not what I meant. I am talking about a high performing single thread mobile cpu. That is good out of all the others, just like how the 3570K is. Just without the overclock of course.

--> I know mobile cpu are worse



A) There is no equivalent to the i5-3570k, because mobile CPUs can't be overclocked. That's the reason the i5-3570k is special. That and it's relatively low price.
B) Any ivy bridge processor with the highest clock speed (as stated above). Since the mobile CPUs can't be overclocked, they're all pretty much exactly the same thing for the purposes of SC2/moba games with the only slight differences being clock speed. Basically, 2.9 Ghz is a little bit better than 2.6 Ghz.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 17 2013 16:59 GMT
#29852
On May 18 2013 01:26 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 01:13 llIH wrote:
On May 18 2013 01:09 Gumbi wrote:
On May 18 2013 00:01 llIH wrote:
On May 17 2013 23:54 Alryk wrote:
All ovy bridges generally have the same single thread performance, so the highest clocked 3xxxM/QM you can get I guess. Maybe the i7 is a touch faster with more L3? But it probably doesn't really matter.


They all have the same? I'm sorry. I have never heard that before. People say the i5-3570K overclocked is the highest single thread performer for desktop. I am looking for one like that - just for mobile.

It doesn't work like that.

We are talking about mobile CPUs, which are limited by heat and power (although the two are related). The fastest mobile CPUs are nowhere near as fast as desktop CPUs.


That's not what I meant. I am talking about a high performing single thread mobile cpu. That is good out of all the others, just like how the 3570K is. Just without the overclock of course.

--> I know mobile cpu are worse



A) There is no equivalent to the i5-3570k, because mobile CPUs can't be overclocked. That's the reason the i5-3570k is special. That and it's relatively low price.
B) Any ivy bridge processor with the highest clock speed (as stated above). Since the mobile CPUs can't be overclocked, they're all pretty much exactly the same thing for the purposes of SC2/moba games with the only slight differences being clock speed. Basically, 2.9 Ghz is a little bit better than 2.6 Ghz.


Tried to emphasize that there is no equivalent for mobie. The whole idea is "single thread performance".
Take a look at this graph:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Here you can see several inferior frequencies beating superior frequencies. Although cost is a big difference.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
May 17 2013 17:05 GMT
#29853
Where? nothing sticks out to me really hard on that list from quick look
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 17 2013 17:19 GMT
#29854
--> "Basically, 2.9 Ghz is a little bit better than 2.6 Ghz."

From the graph you can see that some cpus with lower frequency get higher score for single thread performance than a higher frequency cpu.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
May 17 2013 17:20 GMT
#29855
On May 18 2013 02:05 Cyro wrote:
Where? nothing sticks out to me really hard on that list from quick look

Same here. In any case, I imagine in cases where it is, it's down to generational differences,
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
May 17 2013 17:41 GMT
#29856
On May 18 2013 02:19 llIH wrote:
--> "Basically, 2.9 Ghz is a little bit better than 2.6 Ghz."

From the graph you can see that some cpus with lower frequency get higher score for single thread performance than a higher frequency cpu.


Yea but that's extremely minimal, there's an error margin, it's passmark, and of course you would expect it with CPU's of different architectures (sandy bridge ran at 3.3ghz, ivy bridge at 3.4ghz, haswell at 3.4ghz for i5, yet ~15% performance improvement)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 17 2013 17:42 GMT
#29857
Passmark is garbage, how did this piece of shit get so popular? I rather you use toms than this...
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 17 2013 17:42 GMT
#29858
Have any of you got any recommendations for a mobile cpu for sc2?
60fps minimum-average. Low graphic settings. (For HoN and DotA2 as well in low)
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 17 2013 17:43 GMT
#29859
On May 18 2013 02:42 skyR wrote:
Passmark is garbage, how did this piece of shit get so popular? I rather you use toms than this...


I got it from soneone in this forum some months ago.
Do you have a good one for me?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
May 17 2013 17:49 GMT
#29860
Like said you're not going to get 60fps min or average in later game, 3570k has like 25-30fps min in worst case 1v1 and mobile cpu's are a lot weaker, it really comes down to budget, what GPU you want and then the CPU you can buy with the rest of the money. You can still have like 200fps early game etc.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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