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FlattLine
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Craton
United States17272 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 14 2013 04:03 Hellwitch wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hey Teamliquid! I'm looking to buy a new computer in the near future. But before i get into the details of what i need, here's a few things to know about me. I'm a 22 years old canadian who have pretty much zero knowledge about computer tech (or computers in general). I do not use one for work or almost any other real life matters, so my only use is basically for entertainment (video games, internet, e-mails, etc.) That said, I trust that someone will be able to help me out so let me explain what i'm looking for. What is your budget? : The price is not an issue. I'm willing to pay whatever is needed to get a decent computer. That said, i don't really want to overpay for stuff i won't be using. What is your resolution? : I wasn't sure but my monitor should be 1920 x 1080 What are you using it for? : As i said, mostly gaming. I don't intend to stream anything either so as long as i can watch youtube, play SC2 on high graphics and send a few e-mails, iwill be happy. What is your upgrade cycle? : Pretty damn long (basically until the PC dies). So i don't know exactly how long but obviously 2+ years. When do you plan on building it? : Well, i don't plan to build it myself to be honest but i'd like to have it working as soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? : I have no idea what this means so i guess not... Do you need an Operating System? : yes (should i care if it's windows 7 or 8?) Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? : no? Where are you buying your parts from? : I plan to go to a local store to purchase/assemble the computer for me. My idea was to get a list of pieces and components beforehand. If i forgot to put important informations, i'll try to edit what i can as soon as possible. I'm just a dude who wants to buy a new computer but doesn't really know where to start, so all the help i can get would be appreciated, but please keep in mind that i'm a tech newbie. Thanks in advance!  Which local shop (a chain?), location? For some system components there are dozens of compatible options, many of which may not be available at certain places and may not really be priced according to quality, at any given time. That means that it's not really possible to recommend parts that make sense without knowing what's available. So you'd be playing only SC2, or what else? edit: with respect to the above picture... I don't know why I've never really thought it before and why now, but somehow the Sennheiser HD 598 is jumping out to me like a Noctua fan. Very distinctive. Colors are vaguely similar too. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On March 14 2013 12:48 Craton wrote: http://www.overclock.net/t/1278115/build-log-first-mod-hydro-flame-haf-932-final-pics The case looks uglier than what I regularly flush down the toilet... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
On March 14 2013 13:15 Rollin wrote: The case looks uglier than what I regularly flush down the toilet... Edit: 932 is quite an outdated case by now (912 is too though). He did a pretty good job though. Based on the parts it looks like he barely spent anything to do such an extreme mod, which is the kind of stuff I find most impressive (doing the most with less). Might not be my cup of tea either but definitely looks a million times better than stock and with his custom modifications, aesthetics and artistic choice aside, the actual quality of his build looks better than $100+ cases. I mean a big problem with most computer cases with windows is they use cheap plastic, or extruded cast acrylic at best, which both look and feel like crap (but look awesome on internet pictures, conveniently enough). A cell cast acrylic window (or glass, but that's not as practical) will look a million times better than a pre-made plastic junk window. And you can't exactly just take the original window out and tape acrylic behind it, so really your best bet is just to chop a custom window in a case even if it already has one. I think it's the same guy. Mac user, lots of mac mouse posts, both fairly new accounts and first time build. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On March 14 2013 14:06 Belial88 wrote: Haf 912 is quite an outdated case by now. He did a pretty good job though. Based on the parts it looks like he barely spent anything to do such an extreme mod, which is the kind of stuff I find most impressive (doing the most with less). Might not be my cup of tea either but definitely looks a million times better than stock. I think it's the same guy. Mac user, lots of mac mouse posts, both fairly new accounts and first time build. Where is 5Ghz on air?; also it's a HAF 932. Also, grats on being unbanned, I guess. EDIT: Not bad. Temps are yuck though. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB0dm2-nfpc］http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB0dm2-nfpc typo on 932/912, but both 912 and 932 are very outdated cases. You got $40 cases with similar features and build quality as the 932 nowadays (although aesthetics aren't there, maybe more like $60-80 to have a bit of flair on them too). Definitely great cases when they came out though, the reason new cases for less than half the price are better is solely because of cases like these paving the way. They are still good cases, just not something worth paying premium for anymore (ie intel first gen i7 is a great cpu but you dont pay ivy bridge prices for it). edit: EDIT: Not bad. Temps are yuck though. how my temps bad tt 85*C as an absolute max temp during small fft is a great max temp, well under the max for ivy bridge (90-100 depending on how conservative you are, i personally go with 95*C as a max temp for stress testing as okay as games/streaming will be a good 30*c less). During the other 33.75 hours of prime95, my temps generally stayed in high 60's/low 70s. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
also: ![[image loading]](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/4ryan6/5300mhz2700K.png) Beat it! | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
I'm not sure what I'm looking at, is that on dry ice or something? Your temps are below ambient or you must have stuck them outside in the snow. It's impossible for your temps to be below ambient, either your temps are being reported incorrectly or you stuck your computer outside in the snow (i've seen plenty of people do that though). 20*C = 68*F, and your computer components are going to run a good 10*C+ above room temperature, they aren't just going to run ambient. Your room must literally be freezing. Also ibt really doesn't get your chip nearly as hot as small fft (which is minutes 15-30 in prime95, so technically prime95 will get your chip hotter, although just 15 minutes per 23 hours). Pretty sure my system would get similar temps to you, I'm going to run IBT right now. edit: i didnt see 5.3ghz@1.67v. wtf? that voltage is pretty insane for just 5.3ghz o_o | ||
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FlattLine
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On March 14 2013 13:15 Rollin wrote: The case looks uglier than what I regularly flush down the toilet... You know, when you look at it from some perspectives, it is definitely a hideous case. I agree completely. In fact, I bought the HAF932a (note the A there) soley because it was the number one case on amazon.com. You may note that it was bought long before any other components. It was followed by the grills. These are the first components in the first post, which I left unedited (aside from the header). Following this, I bought tools I thought only home developers had. Notice I bought a driver before a drill... At this point, I have used a screwdriver twice in my life: breaking locks off gym lockers and scraping gum off tables in detention yet now I've committed myself to drills, dremels and jigsaws. And I don't even know the difference b/w a 3770k and a... sorry I'm so new to this I don't even know what an old processor is. The point is that over time, my amateur case buy, and grils, which happened to cost me like 70 bucks.... well, they started to look more and more cheesy to me. My case build potential quickly leapfrogged my initial purchases. Suddenly I'm buying nice components, for a piece of shit case, that looks like a patched-up dildo from Hot Topic. (Probably the sleeving was the epitomy of this... hurting your hands, ordering foreign overpriced merchandise, and worst of all hours and hours of manual labor) It was too late to turn back and start buying crappy stuff. The result was a crappy looking mod but a lot of experience. All I had to show for it was thousands spent, by far the worst place in a mod competition on that forum, and a computer I've now realized I don't need because all I really wanna play is SC2 anyway! (Skyrim, Farcry3, Crysis 3, CivV, Simcity, and other games were bought to utilize the potential of the computer, and I haven't gotten past 5% in any of them! Seriously, all I can think about is HotS!) Anyway, that case turned out to be great practice. And like the other guy said, it's old school, and that makes it gigantic and practical. Theres a shit ton of room in it for upgrades and changes over the years. And all that stuff I learned from building this bad boy is going to be the foundation to the case that I'm gonna build later. When I have more money, better tools, and time to think about how to make it look pretty (so trolls can drool), and glass windows that could be used as dining room tabletops. But still, it's a sick ass build for a mac fanboy. If you see it through my eyes, as in my memories in the beginning... it's beautiful. Prior to this venture, I actually would have believed that this was one of the nicest computers in the world. But yeah, having had gone through all that, it's ugly as shit. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Suddenly I'm buying nice components, for a piece of shit case, that looks like a patched-up dildo from Hot Topic. (Probably the sleeving was the epitomy of this... hurting your hands, ordering foreign overpriced merchandise, and worst of all hours and hours of manual labor) I Oh no! Sleeving is awesome man, your cables look sweet. Although personally I prefer paracord to sleeving, A for effort! You need to make sure you have a quality tool when sleeving, trying to sleeve using staples for pin removal or a poor tool really makes an easy task a huge pain in the ass. Check out my mod. I spent $500 on this 24/7 overclock 5ghz i7-3770k, 2400mhz CL8 RAM, Z77X-UD5H, SSD, 460 build: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5qiA6kh.jpg) Short and simple mod - make a window where one wasn't, stick a light in. Your case might look bad but you can re-use your piece of acrylic on a future case, the sleeving can be used in a future build, and even your fan grills can be used on a future build. The issue is that you took a very flaired up case and modded it, you gotta get a plain black box, and then mod it to look nice (although some very awesome phantom mods exist). edit: my 10 ibt run: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Vc87gRZ.png) | ||
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FlattLine
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The issue is that you took a very flaired up case and modded it, you gotta get a plain black box, and then mod it to look nice (although some very awesome phantom mods exist). "Plain black boxes" are the new stuff. I didn't even realize they were out there, and if I did they were more expensive and had poorer reviews on amazon, where I have my Prime subscription. (again, I don't know anything about PCs at this point) When I set forth on my next case - a long time from now - I'll skip that altogether and go with a scratch build. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On March 14 2013 14:40 Belial88 wrote: Yep :D I'm not sure what I'm looking at, is that on dry ice or something? Your temps are below ambient or you must have stuck them outside in the snow. It's impossible for your temps to be below ambient, either your temps are being reported incorrectly or you stuck your computer outside in the snow (i've seen plenty of people do that though). 20*C = 68*F, and your computer components are going to run a good 10*C+ above room temperature, they aren't just going to run ambient. Your room must literally be freezing. Also ibt really doesn't get your chip nearly as hot as small fft (which is minutes 15-30 in prime95, so technically prime95 will get your chip hotter, although just 15 minutes per 23 hours). Pretty sure my system would get similar temps to you, I'm going to run IBT right now. edit: i didnt see 5.3ghz@1.67v. wtf? that voltage is pretty insane for just 5.3ghz o_o It's Peltier Watercooling, I believe the water temp was 10C (he can take it to around 5C,but condensation becomes a problem). Also it isn't mine, but you should try to beat it. I'm considering it over regular watercooling as the initial cost is around the same, however I'm not sold on the idea that my computer would use 3x the power for a slightly higher OC. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On March 14 2013 16:37 Cyro wrote: His max temps are in the 70's His load temps are below your idle temps at 4.5Ghz (what he normally runs at). http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/page-275185_29_650.html | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 14 2013 16:34 Cyro wrote: Isnt 1.67v extremely dangerous on Sandy Bridge at those temperature ranges even short term? Yes, at any temperature and any duration. | ||
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