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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Defectiv
Profile Joined July 2012
United States2 Posts
July 06 2012 04:12 GMT
#23201
MisterFred... I did mention I would be streaming but do you think the $100 would still be better spent on the video card regardless? Does Xsplit really utilize hyper-threading?

I'm sure i5-3570k with a possible OC would be more than enough... I just want to make the right decision.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 06 2012 04:16 GMT
#23202
Hmm. Must have mixed that up with some other post. Yeah, if you want to focus on streaming at a high quality, the extra for an i7 is certainly worth it.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
billnye597
Profile Joined July 2012
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 07:58:51
July 06 2012 07:45 GMT
#23203
Hey i'm new to the site and was just looking for some help on building a gaming computer. I want the best computer I can get for around $700. If you would mind helping me, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 06 2012 07:58 GMT
#23204
Hey I know you're new to this website but read the OP and come back and tell us what you want.
billnye597
Profile Joined July 2012
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 08:14:51
July 06 2012 08:10 GMT
#23205
billnye597
Profile Joined July 2012
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 08:28:48
July 06 2012 08:23 GMT
#23206
What is your budget?
$600-$700

What is your resolution?
1920×1080

What are you using it for?
Star Craft 2, League of Legends, and Guild Wars 2. I also tend to keep a lot of things up at one time if that means anything.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Before the end of this month.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Never messed with overclocking before but if I can squeeze more out of a system for a couple extra $$, then I'd be willing to give it a shot.

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, Windows 7 would be great.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.com, ncix.com, or other respectable web vendors.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 10:42:51
July 06 2012 08:49 GMT
#23207
Chassis: Source 210
Hard Drive: 7200 RPM Barracuda Double the space for the same price. Thanks Rachnar.
GPU: HD6850
DVD Drive: Chepaest one
Power Supply: Corsair CX430
RAM: 4GB
Motherboard: Asrock B75
Processor: i5-3470
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium

Comes to $710 ignoring shipping and rebate codes. You can probably cut down costs on the motherboard and CPU but this is pretty much what you're looking at.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 06 2012 10:05 GMT
#23208
For 65$ twice the space

500gb instead of 250 and is still sata and 7200 RPM
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
July 06 2012 16:05 GMT
#23209
Took the shit provided and discussed with some trusted people I know on Steam and came up with this:

[image loading]

Solid? Got a video card to go with it and a hard drive I assume I'm going to have to reformat when I switch computers?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 17:29:58
July 06 2012 17:26 GMT
#23210
The Asrock B75M is $15 cheaper, and it's $25 less for PSU I recommended earlier (it provides plenty of wattage). And you can get the Zalman z11 for $10 cheaper if you add in the promo code! Also, Cheaper i3:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59192&vpn=BX80623I32120&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1015

You may not need a full reformat (though it wouldn't hurt if you can back up your data), but you will most definitely need a clean install of windows.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 07 2012 01:37 GMT
#23211
You don't even need a Z11 because you don't need that amount of "cooling performance".
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
July 07 2012 03:10 GMT
#23212
On July 07 2012 10:37 Womwomwom wrote:
You don't even need a Z11 because you don't need that amount of "cooling performance".


Yeah I ditched the Z11. Far too tacticool for my tastes there.

Settled on HAF 912.
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:23:28
July 07 2012 03:59 GMT
#23213
Hey guys, i wanted to upg my current living room desktop....I currently own a Acer Aspire x3400 (canada version) i went to the website and this list of specification came out: http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/desktop/2010/acer/Aspire/AspireX3400/AspireX3400sp2.shtml#sup_1.
I don't know if more information is needed but from what i understand is that i am able to upg my current desktop with all the recommended part? is it even possible to upg?

I have no idea if more information is needed but just need to make sure i get the best quality for its prices and prolonged is life expectancy. Thank you to all the TL
Lost in Heaven
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 07 2012 04:47 GMT
#23214
You can't get a single thing for $200.
ShaunO
Profile Joined April 2011
United States44 Posts
July 07 2012 04:56 GMT
#23215
On July 04 2012 10:50 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 08:46 ShaunO wrote:
What is your budget?
$300-600

+ Show Spoiler +
resolution - 1360x1024

use -
strictly gaming, 99% building this desktop for starcraft 2 multiplayer, thats why low budget. But would be nice to be able to play a couple other games out there too. I'm not even looking for running SC2 on ultra graphics, i prefer low graphics settings when laddering but my laptop right now is just getting old and not running the game well anymore.

upgrade cycle -
2+ years, obviously i want it to last as long as possible, but I could upgrade parts within 2 year probably too

when I plan on buying - ASAP

overclocking - no
OS - I have a OS already, windows 7 64bit

no second GPU

where do i plan on buying the parts? - newegg, tigerdirect


thanks for any help/advice you can provide. I am pretty new to this and I have a buddy who's helping out but I really want to get everyones opinion on here too!


CPU: Pentium g860 ($90)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116405
Normally for a budget pc, I'd recommend the g630, which is only slightly slower but a little over $20 cheaper. But for SC2 specifically, a little extra speed might help somewhat in maxxed-out team games. Oddly enough, there's not really a better CPU for SC2 unless you overclock. Reason: this is a pure-dual core, relatively fast, and SC2 can only use 2 cores.

Motherboard: MSI h67a-g43 ($80 - $20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130616

CPU Cooler: Stock Intel cooler.

RAM: 2x4gb 1333mhz ($40)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

GPU: Integrated Graphics
HD 2000 will do fine for SC2 on lowest, though very few other games will run well. If you ever want to upgrade, you can stick pretty much any price level GPU in here when you feel like it. You'll likely need to add a GPU here if you want to play other games besides SC2. Probably a 6870, they're hitting a pretty large price/performance sweet spot right now if you count mail-in-rebates.

Case: Bit Fenix Outlaw ($45)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1223
Case is largely a matter of personal preference. This is a decent budget case that's not wacky looking. If you want shiny, wacky, with blue LEDs, look at the Zalman z9 or z11 cases.

PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450c ($35)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO-ECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1223

HDD: WD Caviar Blue 500gb ($65 after promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
Only like $20 to double the size to a 1TB, and another $25 or so to go to 2TB, depending on your space needs. Also, SSD not included, but might be nice if you have more $$ later.

DVD-burner ($10)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60731&vpn=GH22NS70&manufacture=LG Electronics USA&promoid=1223

Total: $365 - $20 rebate.

Major upgrades to consider in the near future (or purchase with this build):
($160-$30 rebate) A real video card that'll max everything on your current monitor and play even the hardest to run games smoothly on at med-high graphics settings for a 1920x1080 monitor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561

($235-240) A quality IPS 23" monitor like the Dell Ultrasharp u2313hm. As a bonus: your old monitor becomes a nice non-gaming adjunct.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005LN1JEC/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1341366548&sr=8-1&keywords=dell ultrasharp u2312hm&condition=new

($120) A 128gb SSD, which will give the programs you place upon it zoom-zoom fast load times. And that's all it will do.
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT128M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JKZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341366450&sr=8-1&keywords=crucial m4



Awesome! thanks for the help. One quick question, I was looking at the reviews for the motherboard and it says there are some compatibility issues with some intel CPU's, is the one that you suggested going to work with this motherboard?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 07 2012 05:25 GMT
#23216
Yes it will work. It is Sandy Bridge based and not Ivy Bridge based. The problem stems from people buying that motherboard and trying to pair it with an Ivy Bridge processor.
ShaunO
Profile Joined April 2011
United States44 Posts
July 07 2012 05:35 GMT
#23217
ah, ok. This is my first build and definitely not sure what to look for as far as compatibility goes. so thanks for your help!
lOstHeaven
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada212 Posts
July 07 2012 06:05 GMT
#23218
On July 07 2012 13:47 Womwomwom wrote:
You can't get a single thing for $200.


what i mean was is it possible to upg my aspire or not with the recommend specs
Lost in Heaven
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
July 07 2012 06:26 GMT
#23219
On July 07 2012 15:05 lOstHeaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 13:47 Womwomwom wrote:
You can't get a single thing for $200.


what i mean was is it possible to upg my aspire or not with the recommend specs

You basically can't re-use anything from your computer now except maybe the case and CD drive, so... you can't get anything for $200. The best thing you can possibly do is just buy a new GPU, which may not help at all with CPU bottlenecked areas.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 06:27:50
July 07 2012 06:27 GMT
#23220
On July 07 2012 13:56 ShaunO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 10:50 MisterFred wrote:
On July 04 2012 08:46 ShaunO wrote:
What is your budget?
$300-600

+ Show Spoiler +
resolution - 1360x1024

use -
strictly gaming, 99% building this desktop for starcraft 2 multiplayer, thats why low budget. But would be nice to be able to play a couple other games out there too. I'm not even looking for running SC2 on ultra graphics, i prefer low graphics settings when laddering but my laptop right now is just getting old and not running the game well anymore.

upgrade cycle -
2+ years, obviously i want it to last as long as possible, but I could upgrade parts within 2 year probably too

when I plan on buying - ASAP

overclocking - no
OS - I have a OS already, windows 7 64bit

no second GPU

where do i plan on buying the parts? - newegg, tigerdirect


thanks for any help/advice you can provide. I am pretty new to this and I have a buddy who's helping out but I really want to get everyones opinion on here too!


CPU: Pentium g860 ($90)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116405
Normally for a budget pc, I'd recommend the g630, which is only slightly slower but a little over $20 cheaper. But for SC2 specifically, a little extra speed might help somewhat in maxxed-out team games. Oddly enough, there's not really a better CPU for SC2 unless you overclock. Reason: this is a pure-dual core, relatively fast, and SC2 can only use 2 cores.

Motherboard: MSI h67a-g43 ($80 - $20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130616

CPU Cooler: Stock Intel cooler.

RAM: 2x4gb 1333mhz ($40)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

GPU: Integrated Graphics
HD 2000 will do fine for SC2 on lowest, though very few other games will run well. If you ever want to upgrade, you can stick pretty much any price level GPU in here when you feel like it. You'll likely need to add a GPU here if you want to play other games besides SC2. Probably a 6870, they're hitting a pretty large price/performance sweet spot right now if you count mail-in-rebates.

Case: Bit Fenix Outlaw ($45)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1223
Case is largely a matter of personal preference. This is a decent budget case that's not wacky looking. If you want shiny, wacky, with blue LEDs, look at the Zalman z9 or z11 cases.

PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450c ($35)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO-ECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1223

HDD: WD Caviar Blue 500gb ($65 after promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
Only like $20 to double the size to a 1TB, and another $25 or so to go to 2TB, depending on your space needs. Also, SSD not included, but might be nice if you have more $$ later.

DVD-burner ($10)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60731&vpn=GH22NS70&manufacture=LG Electronics USA&promoid=1223

Total: $365 - $20 rebate.

Major upgrades to consider in the near future (or purchase with this build):
($160-$30 rebate) A real video card that'll max everything on your current monitor and play even the hardest to run games smoothly on at med-high graphics settings for a 1920x1080 monitor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561

($235-240) A quality IPS 23" monitor like the Dell Ultrasharp u2313hm. As a bonus: your old monitor becomes a nice non-gaming adjunct.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005LN1JEC/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1341366548&sr=8-1&keywords=dell ultrasharp u2312hm&condition=new

($120) A 128gb SSD, which will give the programs you place upon it zoom-zoom fast load times. And that's all it will do.
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT128M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JKZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341366450&sr=8-1&keywords=crucial m4



Awesome! thanks for the help. One quick question, I was looking at the reviews for the motherboard and it says there are some compatibility issues with some intel CPU's, is the one that you suggested going to work with this motherboard?


Specials change, and the GPU I mentioned in the bottom of that post is no longer as cheap. But this 460 would be a great selection for a budget build (though less powerful than the 6870, it is $90). Last item on the page:
http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
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